OpenBSC January 2011

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GPRS - local and foreign TLLIs
by Luca Melette 18 Nov '25

18 Nov '25

Hello everybody, after setting up a nanoBTS with OpenBSC/SGSN/GGSN, I had some troubles trying to connect my smartphone to the GPRS cell. Investigating the BTS-to-SGSN traffic, I saw that the frames sent by the SGSN were all marked with the same N(U) value (at LLC layer), the value was 0. With some debug, I found that the there was a mismatch in the TLLI storage, used to keep the status of attached terminals. The mentioned code is contained in gprs_llc.c, involving LL Entity functions and gprs_llc_tx_ui(). /* look-up or create the LL Entity for this (TLLI, SAPI) tuple */ lle = lle_by_tlli_sapi(msgb_tlli(msg), sapi); if (!lle) { struct gprs_llc_llme *llme; LOGP(DLLC, LOGL_ERROR, "LLC TX: unknown TLLI 0x%08x, " "creating LLME on the fly\n", msgb_tlli(msg)); llme = llme_alloc(msgb_tlli(msg)); lle = &llme->lle[sapi]; } The TX function uses the previously received TLLI to lookup for the LLE. The lle_by_tlli_sapi() performs the search, but preliminary it applies a foreign2local TLLI conversion to ensure to have a local one. Since no valid entry for the searched TLLI is found, a new one is created. And the problem is here. The new entry has the foreign TLLI. Next time the lookup fails again, and a new entry is created. This way, the counter N(U) is always reset, and the mobile do not recognize the message sequence and no attach is possible. My question is about foreign and local TLLIs. I patched the lookup, avoiding the conversion, so that the LLE is found and everything works fine... but... What is the sense of the conversion? Should the TLLI be always stored as a local one? Can this problem be solved with another foreign2local while allocating new entries? Actually, my problem has been solved with that workaround. But I'm curious to know what is the right way. Hope somebody can answer :) Thanks. Cheers, LM

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Re: Help with sccp library
by mosbah abdelkader 07 Jul '25

07 Jul '25

> I don't understand. This callback will be called with data you need to write > to the network. In case of MTP Level3 you will need to wrap that around the > msgb you got. I means: is the interaction with mtp3 layer implemented (is sending sccp data by mtp3 implemented by the library?)? Also, what about the reception of data from mtp3 layer. is that implemented in the sccp lib. I am asking these questions because I see the code of mtp3 in the lib but no significant call is present in the sccp part of the lib. Thank you for your help.

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Several questions
by jason mercury 06 Dec '12

06 Dec '12

I have some questions: 1) When I start bsc_hack bsc_init.c first establishes OML link and initializes the bts then it establishes RSL link and bts starts broadcasting. However, it takes so much time to start the bts. Instead of this I want to do the following: it establishes OML link at the beginning and only once, then when i want to start broadcasting it establishes just the RSL link and bts will start faster since i don't have to wait for OML link. What should be done for this? 2) If i send one or two word messages from telnet interface it is okay. But if i send a longer message the phone could't receive the end of the message correctly(last words may be incomplete). Did any one encounter with this problem? What is wrong with me? 3) Could I send SMS in which extension of the sender is text not integer. For example, i want to send an information SMS that this is a test network. For this purpose i want to send an SMS from 'OpenBSC'. I set the extension of the first subscriber in database as text and tried to send the SMS but SMS wasn't delivered. What should i do? 4) Can i add SMS externally to SMS table of database? Thanks. Jason

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New utility for drawing protocol ladder diagrams
by Harald Welte 21 Feb '11

21 Feb '11

Hi! With the help of graphviz, I have written a small perl-based tool that allows you to generate ladder diagrams. It can be found at git://git.osmocom.org/gen_ladder.git For your reference, I'm attaching a sample input and output file. The bent/curved arrows are a result of graphviz trying to indicate that the message is between e.g. MS and MSC and 'bypasses' BTS and BSC. I'm still waiting for somebody with more graphviz skills to make this an option. Hope this is useful for some of you... -- - Harald Welte <laforge(a)gnumonks.org> http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ ============================================================================ "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6)

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Re:How to run openbsc on nanoBTS
by Ravi Shankar 16 Feb '11

16 Feb '11

Dear sir I am new to openbsc.I have two NanoBTS(165cu).I'm facing some difficulty which I'm summarizing below I'm using Ubuntu10.04 1) Can we proceed with one nanobts.? 2)I've configured bts ip,unit id, oml ip of one bts.But not able to get the firmware. How to get it and configure for NanoBTS?? 3)how to run openbsc ?? Please suggest the procedure to run the openbsc. Thanks

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Proposed OpenBSC application interface
by Harald Welte 15 Feb '11

15 Feb '11

Hi! Collin Mulliner, Tobias Engel and myself have been meeting yesterday to discuss a generic application interface for OpenBSC. They are both doing security analysis and want to achieve a clean way how an external application can get access to a more or less transparent communication channel to the phone. The purpose of this is to be able to send intentionally malformed packets to the mobile phone GSM stack at various different levels within the stack. As of now, they have both hacked some custom code into openbsc that gets them half way where they want to be - but not quite all the way. The requirements can be summarized as follows: 1) Ability to establish a SDCCH or TCH channel by paging the phone As of now, the 'silent call' feature from the VTY already does this. 2) Ability to send arbitrary layer3 protocol messages to the phone Adding this is relatively easy (use rsl_sendmsg on the lchan from the silent call) 3) Ability to receive responses from the phone, as well as error conditions such as 'readio link failure'. We don't have a solution for this yet, and we also have no clean way to identify what might be a response from the phone to the external app, and what might be a message from the phone to the normal network code in OpenBSC 4) Ability to selectively disable partial protocol handling in OpenBSC. Let's say you want to play with the mobile phone call control implementation. In this case, you want to make sure all CC related messages go from/to the external program and not from the regular OpenBSC network code. So what I've been thinking of as a solution to the problem: * store a bypass_flags bitmask related to the subscriber structure, where we indicate values such as BYPASS_RR, BYPASS_MM, BYPASS_CC, BYPASS_SAPI3. * if we process an incoming message from the MS in gsm0408_rcvmsg(), we check if a bypass flag matching the message is found. If yes, forward the message to the external program * if we want to send a message from our own protocol stack to the MS, we check if a bypass flag matching the message is found. If yes, we drop the message that we were about to send. * any messages received from the application will be forwarded to the MS The application interface protocol will likely have a close resemblance to RSL RLL. We need to exchange the following primitives with the application, like: * ESTABLISH REQUEST -- app requests a channel be established to MS (by IMSI) * ESTABLISH CONFIRM -- network confirms a channel has been established * ESTABLISH INDICATION -- network tells app connection was made by MS * [UNIT] DATA REQUEST -- app requests data to be sent to MS * [UNIT] DATA INDICATION -- network indicates data was received from MS * ERROR INDICATION -- network tells app something went wrong * RELEASE REQUEST -- app asks network to release channel * RELEASE CONFIRM -- net tells app that channel was released (as rqd) * RELEASE INDICATION -- net tells app that channel was released (by MS) The channel_number of RSL (indicating on-air timeslot) doesn't make much sense in this context, of course. The link_identifier on the other hand is great as it allows the app to indicate SDCCH/FACCH or SACCH as well as the SAPI. The actual RSL-like protocol would be encapsulated by UDP and available on a socket of the MSC. What do you think? Regards, Harald -- - Harald Welte <laforge(a)gnumonks.org> http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ ============================================================================ "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6)

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How to obtain one of these HSL 2.75G Femtocells?
by ste7an 01 Feb '11

01 Feb '11

This Femtocell looks both from a pricing point of view as from a hardware point of view very interesting. Now that the integration in OpenBSC looks very promising it would become a good alternative for the more expensive ip.access picocells. It seems that these HSL femtocell can not be bought without first investing in the developers pack from HSL which cost as much as 7000$. Does anyone know how to obtain one of these cells for a reasonable price? Are they already deployed by operators? Looking at the internal hardware, it may even become a substitute for the USRP's....

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nanoBTS for sale
by Martin Mayoral Zuloaga 29 Jan '11

29 Jan '11

2 nanobts for sale $ 1,500 usd each. Both $ 2,700

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please verify my multidrop-config
by Thomas Ansorg 24 Jan '11

24 Jan '11

hello list, i'd like you to go with me thru my setup of 2 bs11 and verify it. it looks like this: E1 E1 PC------BTS0------BTS1 let's begin with the bs11_config outputs bts0: LMT LOGON: ACK PHASE: 3 Normal MBCCU0: Load MBCCU1: No Load Abis-link: Restoring BS11 ATTRIBUTES: BS-11 ESN PCB Serial Number: 001104 BS-11 ESN Hardware Code Number: 135-2044/03.07 BS-11 ESN Firmware Code Number: 135-2044/03.07 PLL Set Value=1006, Work Value=1038 SITE MANAGER ATTRIBUTES: E1 Channel: Port=0 Timeslot=1 (Full Slot) TEI: 25 BS11 Line Interface ATTRIBUTES: PLL Mode: Standalone BS11 CCLK ATTRIBUTES: CCLK Accuracy: High (1) CCLK Type=0 BS11 Power Amplifier 0 ATTRIBUTES: TRX Power: 30mW (GSM) BPORT0 ATTRIBUTES: Line Configuration: Multi-Drop (1) BPORT1 ATTRIBUTES: Line Configuration: Multi-Drop (1) LMT LOGOFF: ACK and that's bts1: LMT LOGON: ACK PHASE: 3 Normal MBCCU0: Load MBCCU1: No Load Abis-link: Restoring BS11 ATTRIBUTES: BS-11 ESN PCB Serial Number: 001112 BS-11 ESN Hardware Code Number: 135-2044/03.03 BS-11 ESN Firmware Code Number: 135-2044/03.03 PLL Set Value=1073, Work Value=1073 SITE MANAGER ATTRIBUTES: E1 Channel: Port=1 Timeslot=17 (Full Slot) TEI: 25 BS11 Line Interface ATTRIBUTES: PLL Mode: Standalone BS11 CCLK ATTRIBUTES: CCLK Accuracy: High (1) CCLK Type=0 BS11 Power Amplifier 0 ATTRIBUTES: TRX Power: 30mW (GSM) BPORT0 ATTRIBUTES: Line Configuration: Star (0) BPORT1 GET ATTR NACK <--- do i have to worry about his? LMT LOGOFF: ACK here we go with openbsc.cfg. i use only trx0 of each bts. don't ask why i did something like this or like that, i just adapted the openbsc.cfg-file from the packet to my timeslots configured ! ! OpenBSC configuration saved from vty ! ! password foo ! line vty no login ! network network country code 262 mobile network code 10 short name Y-Phone long name Yodaphone handover 1 bts 0 type bs11 band GSM900 cell_identity 1 location_area_code 1 training_sequence_code 7 base_station_id_code 63 oml e1 line 0 timeslot 1 sub-slot full oml e1 tei 25 <-- i use tei 25 for the oml of bts1, too. correct? trx 0 arfcn 121 max_power_red 0 rsl e1 line 0 timeslot 1 sub-slot full <-- the same e1 timeslot for oml is used here for the ccch. rsl e1 tei 1 | correct? timeslot 0 | i'd say weird phys_chan_config CCCH+SDCCH4 | e1 line 0 timeslot 1 sub-slot full <-- timeslot 1 phys_chan_config TCH/F e1 line 0 timeslot 2 sub-slot 1 timeslot 2 phys_chan_config TCH/F e1 line 0 timeslot 2 sub-slot 2 timeslot 3 phys_chan_config TCH/F e1 line 0 timeslot 2 sub-slot 3 timeslot 4 phys_chan_config TCH/F e1 line 0 timeslot 3 sub-slot 0 timeslot 5 phys_chan_config TCH/F e1 line 0 timeslot 3 sub-slot 1 timeslot 6 phys_chan_config TCH/F e1 line 0 timeslot 3 sub-slot 2 timeslot 7 phys_chan_config TCH/F e1 line 0 timeslot 3 sub-slot 3 bts 1 type bs11 band GSM900 location_area_code 2 training_sequence_code 7 base_station_id_code 63 oml e1 line 0 timeslot 17 sub-slot full <-- harald told me line has to be 0, but i dont understand why. i configured 2 fragments on the misdn driver, with d-channel on ts 1 and 17, the rest b-channels. each fragment is a device,right? (0 and 1). Each device corresponds to a port in bs11_config and a line here, right ? oml e1 tei 25 <-- here again: all oml e1 teis identical? trx 0 arfcn 122 max_power_red 0 rsl e1 line 0 timeslot 17 sub-slot full rsl e1 tei 2 timeslot 0 phys_chan_config CCCH+SDCCH4 <--here we go with line(=port=id) 1, since fragment 2 starts ad device id 1 on e1 ts 17 as d-channel e1 line 1 timeslot 17 sub-slot full timeslot 1 phys_chan_config SDCCH8 e1 line 1 timeslot 18 sub-slot 1 timeslot 2 phys_chan_config TCH/F e1 line 1 timeslot 18 sub-slot 2 timeslot 3 phys_chan_config TCH/F e1 line 1 timeslot 18 sub-slot 3 timeslot 4 phys_chan_config TCH/F e1 line 1 timeslot 19 sub-slot 0 timeslot 5 phys_chan_config TCH/F e1 line 1 timeslot 19 sub-slot 1 timeslot 6 phys_chan_config TCH/F e1 line 1 timeslot 19 sub-slot 2 timeslot 7 phys_chan_config TCH/F e1 line 1 timeslot 19 sub-slot 3 and for the final: the output of bsc_hack during start: 2 devices found id: 0 Dprotocols: 00000018 Bprotocols: 0000000e protocol: 4 nrbchan: 14 name: hfc-e1.1-1 activate bchan activate bchan DB: Database initialized. DB: Database prepared. since line 1 isnt used for bts1 oml, only device id 0 with d-channel on ts 1 is activated. but im quite sure this is a mistake, i need 2 devices for 2 bts. right? this config dont work at all. bts1 not recognised, bts0 is recognised but cant handle calls. the handys are callable and ring, but no data is transmitted. please give me as much feedback as possible mni tnx T. -- Wer Rechtschreibfehler findet, darf sie behalten!

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how to create trx0?
by Thomas Ansorg 21 Jan '11

21 Jan '11

hello, my 2nd bs11 has no load on trx0. may someone give me a bit more detailed information than on openbsc.org how to create trx0? tnx in advance T. -- Wer Rechtschreibfehler findet, darf sie behalten!

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