Dear all,
so far the osmocom.org mailing lists have always been in a 'non-members are manually moderated' mode. This has created a lot of work for manual list moderation, where a lot of the messages caught are simply spam, and only the occasional valid message is being received.
I'd like to thank the list moderators for taking care of this.
However, in more recent discussions, we were considering to move the lists to a completely closed mode, i.e. postings would automatically be rejected from non-members.
The automatic response would contain a description of how to subscribe in 'nomail' mode, i.e. to subscribe in a way to be able to post to the list, while still not receiving any incoming traffic. The latter should be fine for occasional posters who don't want the bulk e-mail that goes with a full/regular subscription.
Please provide feedback in case you disagree with that change. Unless there is major opposition, we will likely transition to the 'closed' mode within one month.
Thanks, Harald
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 07:53:26PM +0100, Harald Welte wrote:
Dear all,
so far the osmocom.org mailing lists have always been in a 'non-members are manually moderated' mode. This has created a lot of work for manual list moderation, where a lot of the messages caught are simply spam, and only the occasional valid message is being received.
I'd like to thank the list moderators for taking care of this.
However, in more recent discussions, we were considering to move the lists to a completely closed mode, i.e. postings would automatically be rejected from non-members.
The automatic response would contain a description of how to subscribe in 'nomail' mode, i.e. to subscribe in a way to be able to post to the list, while still not receiving any incoming traffic. The latter should be fine for occasional posters who don't want the bulk e-mail that goes with a full/regular subscription.
Please provide feedback in case you disagree with that change. Unless there is major opposition, we will likely transition to the 'closed' mode within one month.
For the dect list I'm all in favour of this. There's very low traffic and almost only spam.
Cheers, Patrick
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 07:53:26PM +0100, Harald Welte wrote:
Dear all,
Good Evening,
Please provide feedback in case you disagree with that change. Unless there is major opposition, we will likely transition to the 'closed' mode within one month.
when I think I make a one time contribution I use the gmane.org service a lot. On some mailinglists the patch/email sent i just dropped and will never arrive at the mailinglist.
If we could find a 'closed' but gmane for posting will still work kind of solution that would be super.
holger
Hi Holger,
[cutting the Cc list]
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 08:55:41PM +0100, Holger Hans Peter Freyther wrote:
If we could find a 'closed' but gmane for posting will still work kind of solution that would be super.
Unfortuntaely mailman only allows white-listing based on from-addresses, and not based on other header fields. What 'From' address will mails posted throguh from gmane.org have? Your regular mail address, I presume :/
Regads, Harald
I, for one, agree totally. Not that i have received *any* spam from this list, but your proposal makes sense. Not that would stop spam, though, they do fake addresses sometimes :-( But because that's how all of the lists, that I know of, work.
PS You didn't specify for "personal" feedback, so I am replying to the lists, many of whom I am not a member. Hope it is not considered spam ;-)
BR, Nikos
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Harald Welte laforge@gnumonks.org wrote:
Dear all,
so far the osmocom.org mailing lists have always been in a 'non-members are manually moderated' mode. This has created a lot of work for manual list moderation, where a lot of the messages caught are simply spam, and only the occasional valid message is being received.
I'd like to thank the list moderators for taking care of this.
However, in more recent discussions, we were considering to move the lists to a completely closed mode, i.e. postings would automatically be rejected from non-members.
The automatic response would contain a description of how to subscribe in 'nomail' mode, i.e. to subscribe in a way to be able to post to the list, while still not receiving any incoming traffic. The latter should be fine for occasional posters who don't want the bulk e-mail that goes with a full/regular subscription.
Please provide feedback in case you disagree with that change. Unless there is major opposition, we will likely transition to the 'closed' mode within one month.
Thanks, Harald
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ok for the closed mode !
73 IW3BTI
2014/1/12 Harald Welte laforge@gnumonks.org
Dear all,
so far the osmocom.org mailing lists have always been in a 'non-members are manually moderated' mode. This has created a lot of work for manual list moderation, where a lot of the messages caught are simply spam, and only the occasional valid message is being received.
I'd like to thank the list moderators for taking care of this.
However, in more recent discussions, we were considering to move the lists to a completely closed mode, i.e. postings would automatically be rejected from non-members.
The automatic response would contain a description of how to subscribe in 'nomail' mode, i.e. to subscribe in a way to be able to post to the list, while still not receiving any incoming traffic. The latter should be fine for occasional posters who don't want the bulk e-mail that goes with a full/regular subscription.
Please provide feedback in case you disagree with that change. Unless there is major opposition, we will likely transition to the 'closed' mode within one month.
Thanks, Harald
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- Harald Welte laforge@gnumonks.org
============================================================================ "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6)
Hi
Closed lists will just be more efficient. If the bounce message is clear then most genuine contributors will get that and respond appropriately.
I've only dealt with one real, actual problem as a moderator and it was purely accidental that the offender wasn't a subscriber and I was able to catch it. We should expect some spammers to join but even this hurdle will eliminate the majority and we can boot any subscribed spammers quite quickly.
ATB
Stevie
Am Sonntag, den 12.01.2014, 19:53 +0100 schrieb Harald Welte:
Dear all,
so far the osmocom.org mailing lists have always been in a 'non-members are manually moderated' mode. This has created a lot of work for manual list moderation, where a lot of the messages caught are simply spam, and only the occasional valid message is being received.
I'd like to thank the list moderators for taking care of this.
However, in more recent discussions, we were considering to move the lists to a completely closed mode, i.e. postings would automatically be rejected from non-members.
The automatic response would contain a description of how to subscribe in 'nomail' mode, i.e. to subscribe in a way to be able to post to the list, while still not receiving any incoming traffic. The latter should be fine for occasional posters who don't want the bulk e-mail that goes with a full/regular subscription.
Please provide feedback in case you disagree with that change. Unless there is major opposition, we will likely transition to the 'closed' mode within one month.
Hi
The only disadvantage I can see is, that you cannot simply CC the list, when you get a question to your personal address, that might be interesting for the list. Your mail will still get through, but the next reply will not make it to the list.
But that is quiet acceptable, compared to a lot of spam being send to such lists.
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Edoardo Rispoli -
Erik Tews -
Harald Welte -
Holger Hans Peter Freyther -
Nikos Balkanas -
Patrick McHardy -
Steve Glass