Hi David,

Looks like a good idea. I just want to say that it would be better to name the list just "umts-discuss" if you aim at general discussion. This should decrease confusion of newcomers.

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 05:53, David Burgess david@rangenetworks.com wrote:

All -

I realize this is slightly off topic, but I have just set up a mailing list for discussion of the UMTS specifications.  This list is not about building a specific implementation of UMTS (although it might lead to that) but it is instead a forum for discussion of the interpretation of the specifications.  It is my impression so far that the 3GPP documents are constructed so as to meet some minimum legal requirement for the specification of the technology while still avoiding the conveyance of critical information actually required to implement the system.  The likely purpose of this approach is to deter the implementation of 3G technology by anyone outside of the set of companies that staffed the specification committee.  The eventual product of this list could be an alternative, wikipedia-style spec that conveys all of the information needed to actually build some minimum-but-fuctional 3G system.  Anyone who is interested breaking down the door to this club, please subscribe here:

https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/openbts-umts-discuss

Thanks.

-- David

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Hi David,

On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 05:53:58PM -0800, David Burgess wrote:

I realize this is slightly off topic, but I have just set up a mailing list for discussion of the UMTS specifications. This list is not about building a specific implementation of UMTS (although it might lead to that) but it is instead a forum for discussion of the interpretation of the specifications.

I'm very happy about you taking initiative on this, and I've already subscribed on the list. My detailed knowledge about UMTS is mostly on the higher layers though (from RANAP up), but I'm happy to contribute whatever I can.

Regards, Harald