Dear List
We've just taken delivery of a few more pico cells from our partners (who are moving everything over to 3g). For sale we now have:
3 x Model 139 (1800 MHz) GPRS 2 x Model 139 (1900 MHz) GPRS 1 x Model 165CU (900 MHz) GPRS / EDGE
We have amplifiers and diversity receiver units for all models as well as external antenna connection kits for the model 139 (165 has built in SMA connectors). All models available for Express worldwide delivery within 2 days. Credit / Debit cards accepted.
Kind Regards
Stuart Baggs Managing Director BlueWave Communications Ltd
Hi Stuart,
while so far we have been open to the occasional posting of available BTSs at this list, I'm not entirely sure if ther recent increas in frequency of your postings are still appreciated.
As I may be considered partial due to my involvement in sysmocom (who is bulding + selling sysmoBTS), I would like to hereby solicit comments from the list subscribers to see if they would like to see this kind of postings, even if they're as frequent as your recent posts, or if they prefer to keep this list technical and only see non-commercial offers of BTS equipment.
Whatever is the result of that feedback we shuold adopt as a list policy.
Regards, Harald
HI Harald
I'll leave it up to list members to decide and of course happy to abide by any decision.
What ever decision is reached, I'd like to continue technical involvement in the projects development.
As well as selling the hardware, we're also big advocates of openBSC itself.
With Kindest Regards
Stuart
On 6 Dec 2012, at 10:48, Harald Welte wrote:
Hi Stuart,
while so far we have been open to the occasional posting of available BTSs at this list, I'm not entirely sure if ther recent increas in frequency of your postings are still appreciated.
As I may be considered partial due to my involvement in sysmocom (who is bulding + selling sysmoBTS), I would like to hereby solicit comments from the list subscribers to see if they would like to see this kind of postings, even if they're as frequent as your recent posts, or if they prefer to keep this list technical and only see non-commercial offers of BTS equipment.
Whatever is the result of that feedback we shuold adopt as a list policy.
Regards, Harald
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Harald Welte wrote:
I would like to hereby solicit comments from the list subscribers to see if they would like to see this kind of postings, even if they're as frequent as your recent posts
Since these particular units aren't completely trivial to acquire I think it's nice to spread information efficiently within the project when there are opportunities to buy one, both when it's a commercial offer and when it's a not-for-profit developer offer.
I think it's nice if list subscribers can have some head start before gear goes onto eBay or other sales channels.
Since it's very low volume posting I'm personally not annoyed, even if it's as frequent as recently.
There are of course other ways to keep people updated about hardware availability - one idea would be a wiki page which anyone who is interested could subscribe to in order to receive updates - off list. (That shouldn't require a wiki account though. Maybe RSS is a good solution. And a wiki account would still be needed to post offers, which means slightly more effort than simply posting an email.)
Very generally speaking I think it's valuable for the project to show that various companies are not afraid to openly offer both services and products related to the software.
//Peter
I would like to hereby solicit comments from the list subscribers to see if they would like to see this kind of postings, even if they're as frequent as your recent posts
Since these particular units aren't completely trivial to acquire I think it's nice to spread information efficiently within the project when there are opportunities to buy one, both when it's a commercial offer and when it's a not-for-profit developer offer.
I agree with Peter. As long as the postings don't get too frequent, I am ok with them.
-Tobias
On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 03:38:46PM +0100, Tobias Engel wrote:
I would like to hereby solicit comments from the list subscribers to see if they would like to see this kind of postings, even if they're as frequent as your recent posts
Since these particular units aren't completely trivial to acquire I think it's nice to spread information efficiently within the project when there are opportunities to buy one, both when it's a commercial offer and when it's a not-for-profit developer offer.
I agree with Peter. As long as the postings don't get too frequent, I am ok with them.
They are not frequent, yes, but in my case I don't like "advertisements". When I need anything, just go where I can get the stuff I need.
Probably, we can add some page in the trac with pointers to webpages of people selling equipment in case people want to acquire anything?
Hi Stuart and all,
while so far we have been open to the occasional posting of available BTSs at this list, I'm not entirely sure if ther recent increas in frequency of your postings are still appreciated.
Actually I had the same tought this morning when seeing that mail _again_.
And here the "again" part is critical. Although I don't mind the occasional mail when a source of hard to find items become available, I think a single mail is enough. To me it seems pretty clear that you'll have several units available and that anyone looking for one could contact you, no need to post each time ... People can contact you in private to ask for your inventory (or you could just use a dedicated page on your site for that or whatever to take it off the list).
Now of course this is to be left to appreciations ... if you happen to have an unlimited supply of 50$ LTE+3G+GSM base stations with full tech docs, feel free to tell us about it.
Cheers,
Sylvain
Hi Folks
And here the "again" part is critical.
I do not understand why it is critical. Is there any legal problem with that?
At least for me i am ok with such offers since it is the only known way to get my hands on such scarce hardware.
But there is another problem i see. If you buy from the list, there is no security. You have to trust the seller absolutely. I am a bit scared to send that much money to a foreign country. No, no, my nanoBTS is somewhere in germany and i will come personally and pick it up ;-)
regards. Philipp Maier
Hi,
And here the "again" part is critical.
I do not understand why it is critical. Is there any legal problem with that?
legal ? No ... what in my message made you think I was expressing a legal opinion ?
Harald was asking for the personal opinion of people on the list, I was just expressing mine and the reason why I felt that way, but it's obviously all subjective (by pretty much the definition of "personal opinion").
Cheers,
Sylvain
Hi Sylvain,
legal ? No ... what in my message made you think I was expressing a legal opinion ?
As far as i remember, some years ago we were advised not to trade stuff here. Thats all i know. I just thought it could be also a leagal issue in some way.
regards. Philipp
On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 11:48:00AM +0100, Harald Welte wrote:
As I may be considered partial due to my involvement in sysmocom (who is bulding + selling sysmoBTS), I would like to hereby solicit comments from the list subscribers to see if they would like to see this kind of postings, even if they're as frequent as your recent posts, or if they prefer to keep this list technical and only see non-commercial offers of BTS equipment.
This should be a technical list.
Personally I'm ok with commercial postings as long as we establish some reasonable "rate-limit" on them - say no more than 1 in 2 weeks per person/company.
Hello,
Considering that there were not so many emails regarding sales of hardware and this kind of hardware is hard to source in normal shops or even ebay I am OK to receive them.
I remember a few months ago I was waiting for such emails when I wanted to buy a nanoBTS and nothing...
Regards, R.
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