RTLSDR Philosophy.

Hi All, A device with limited dynamic range like the RTL2832/E4000 dongle needs a carefully designed gain control to allow the user to move the dynamic range up or down to fit the current RF environment. The latest version has the required gain controls, but to write an application that optimizes the performance one has to know the dongle. I would like to use the standard library for Linrad. The purpose would be to get support for other tuners than the E4000 that are available today or that that may become available in the future. There is rtlsdr_get_tuner_gains that returns the lna gain in the case of e4000. The gain values it returns for the other tuners has a small range which means that somehow (AGC or manual) one can set a much wider gain range. In the case of E4000 there is IF gain and mixer gain. I can not find those in the other tuners even though they have to be present in the hardware - but maybe only in the form of AGC. The application program needs to have: get_mixer_gains() get_no_of_if_gain_controls() get_if_gains(no) Or something equivalent to run the E4000. To me this does not look right. Having each gain block as a separate object for the application program to figure out how to handle means that the application programmer needs to know the details of each tuner that might become available. I think a much better approach would be to see the entire tuner chip as an object. That would imply that the "set tuner gain" would use all the gain controls inside the tuner chip in the proper order. In the case of the E4000 tuner it would be like this: Max gain: lna gain set to max. IF and mixer gain set to levels that produce 6 to 10 dB above minimum noise at the RTL2832 input. Reduced gain 1 to 10 dB: The lna should be left at max gain while mixer and/or IF gain is reduced. Further reduced gain: Reduce lna gain. The contribution from IF and mixer is already negligible. Even lower gain: When lna is at minimum we can still reduce IF gain. The strategy would allow the application program to ask for the gain range. Whether the gain setting would accept any value and set the closest possible or whether it would require the user to query what gain levels the system allows is a matter of convenience. The fundamental problem is whether the application program needs to know the internals of every supported chip. A peace of hardware like the RTL2832/E4000 dongle needs a gain control that spans at least 40 dB. The other tuners need the same but in case itis only available as AGC they are not suitable for SDR. At the moment Linrad works well with the E4000, but I do not think it would work with other tuners. I will wait for progress on the librtlsdr library. Hopefully it will be clear how an application program can set the system gain over a range of at least 40 dB without knowledge of the internaldś of the tuners. 73 Leif / SM5BSZ