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gr-ais with osmosdr
by Christian Gagneraud 07 Aug '12

07 Aug '12

Hi there, I saw a message in the July archive (I wasn't subscribed yet at that date) about updating gr-ais with osmosdr support. I was working on the same thing recently, so i decided to publish my fixes on top of Antoine's one. The result can be found here: https://github.com/chgans/gr-ais I got it working with both an FCD and an RTL: ais_rx.py --rate 96e3 --gain 30 --error -17 -d -D fcd=0 ais_rx.py --rate 1024e3 --gain 30 --error -110 -d -D rtl=0 Strangely passing freq_err=XX parameter to the source (using -D), doesn't work, the use of --error is thus needed (which will do a set_freq_corr()). Antoine, if you want sample file, just let me know. Nick, are you willing to integrate these changing back in gr-ais, Apart from the added automatic decimation filter, the changes are not intrusive at all. The default settings for UHD are 256Khz sampling with decimation filter 4, with this change, the decimation is one when using FCD (96KHz fixed frequency) and 16 for RTL when used at 1.024MHz (this was the minimum working frequency for me). Or maybe would you prefer to allow the user to set it manually, and use this technique as a fall back only. Please let me know what you guys think. Thx, Chris -- Christian Gagneraud, Embedded systems engineer. Techworks Marine 1 Harbour road Dun Laoghaire Co. Dublin Ireland Tel: + 353 (0) 1 236 5990 Web: http://www.techworks.ie/

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Wiki page
by Christian Gagneraud 07 Aug '12

07 Aug '12

Hi, I started do add documentation to the wiki page of gr-osmosdr [1]. For now i've just added documentation about the "constructor" parameters. Any feedback welcome. [1] http://sdr.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/GrOsmoSDR PS: Could anyone tell me what the mcr is? (used for osmosdr source) -- Christian Gagneraud, Embedded systems engineer. Techworks Marine 1 Harbour road Dun Laoghaire Co. Dublin Ireland Tel: + 353 (0) 1 236 5990 Web: http://www.techworks.ie/

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[PATCH] Add swig hint for devices_t objects
by chris＠techworks.ie 06 Aug '12

06 Aug '12

From: Christian Gagneraud <chris(a)techworks.ie> Signed-off-by: Christian Gagneraud <chris(a)techworks.ie> --- swig/osmosdr_swig.i | 1 + 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) diff --git a/swig/osmosdr_swig.i b/swig/osmosdr_swig.i index afdbb0e..4205fd6 100644 --- a/swig/osmosdr_swig.i +++ b/swig/osmosdr_swig.i @@ -25,6 +25,7 @@ %ignore osmosdr::device_t::operator[]; //ignore warnings about %extend %template(string_string_dict_t) std::map<std::string, std::string>; //define before device +%template(devices_t)std::vector<osmosdr::device_t>; %include <osmosdr_device.h> %template(range_vector_t) std::vector<osmosdr::range_t>; //define before range -- 1.7.7

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Iterating over gain ranges with python
by Christian Gagneraud 06 Aug '12

06 Aug '12

Hi there, In a python script, I would like to iterate over things like get_gain_names, get_gain_ranges, ... The problem is that these functions return a std::vector<std::string> *. The error i get is: TypeError: 'SwigPyObject' object is not iterable It would be very nice to be able to do something like: for src.get_sample_rates(): # do something for name in get_gain_names(): # do smth I found this: http://reference-man.com/files/generators.i But i haven't been able to use it so far. :( Any help or comments appreciated. Chris -- Christian Gagneraud, Embedded systems engineer. Techworks Marine 1 Harbour road Dun Laoghaire Co. Dublin Ireland Tel: + 353 (0) 1 236 5990 Web: http://www.techworks.ie/

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gr-ais for rtl-sdr
by Antoine Sirinelli 25 Jul '12

25 Jul '12

Hi, I have tried to modify the AIS decoding implementation from Nick Foster (https://cgran.org/wiki/AIS) in order to be able to use an rtl dongle as a source. Unfortunately I am not living by the sea and I cannot test it before a couple of week. Is there anybody able to receive AIS messages willing to test my changes? You can find it on github: https://github.com/asirinelli/gr-ais The 2 main assumptions I made are: - Nick first implementation is working - rtl-sdr is able to have a sample rate of 256 kHz. Many thanks, Antoine

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RTL2832U FIR filter
by Michael Karcher 15 Jul '12

15 Jul '12

Hello people, in some experiments with my RTL2832 stick, I managed to find out how the FIR filter works. The FIR filter is running at the XTAL frequency (typically 28.8MHz). In the SDR mode, the filter is a symmetric FIR filter with 32 real-number-valued taps. Using the symmetry, only 16 coefficients need to be specified. The coefficients are stored in the 20 bytes written to the FIR register. The first coefficient describes the outermost tap, the last one the tap 0.5 taps away from the symmetry axis. The first 8 values are 8-bit numbers, the second 8 values are 12 bit numbers, resulting in 64 + 96 = 160 bits (20 bytes). The first 8 bytes written to the chip are the first 8 coefficients. The 12-bit coefficients are stored like this pairwise in three bytes: In the byte sequence "12 34 56", the first coefficient is 0x123 and the second coefficient is 0x456. Both the 8-bit and the 12-bit numbers are to be interpreted as two's complement signed numbers (thus the 8-bit coefficients range from -128 to +127, while the 12-bit coefficients range from -2048 to +2047). The resolution of all 16 coefficients is the same. I furthermore found out that this is not the only filtering going on in the RTL2832 chip in SDR mode. There seems to be a second anti-aliasing filter before the DAC, making signals disappear that are at frequencies above 0.7 times the sample rate (in the baseband), even if the programmable FIR filter lets them pass. As an example, I provide the decoded default coefficients: -54 -36 -41 -40 -32 -14 14 53 101 156 215 273 327 372 404 421 421 404 372 327 273 215 156 101 53 14 -14 -32 -40 -41 -36 -54 This filter has a quite flat passband in the interesting range for DAB (-768kHz..+768kHz) but by far not enough attenuation at 1280kHz (which will alias to 768kHz at a sampling rate of 2048kHz) to get satisfactory adjacent channel rejection. The experimentally observed alias rejection is good enough, which lead to the conclusion that there is another low-pass filter, which might be part of the resampling unit. Regards, Michael Karcher

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RTL2832U FIR filter
by Michael Karcher 15 Jul '12

15 Jul '12

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OsmoSDR Hardware Design Questions
by Sandor Szilvasi 12 Jul '12

12 Jul '12

Hi OsmoCom, I was going to start a home project *very similar* to yours, when I bumped into the OsmoSDR. So, I'd like to ask a few questions regarding the OsmoSDR hardware. 1. Based on the photo<http://sdr.osmocom.org/trac/chrome/common/download.png>your fab could handle BGA packages. Why didn't you use the BGA packaged Atmel SAM3U MCU instead of the LQFP one? 2. The Lattice LatticeXP2 FPGA is available in the same package but in larger size at almost identical price. Why did you pick the smallest available FPGA, the LFXP-5E ($16) instead of the LFXP-8E ($20)? 3. You are using the SAM3U SSC to transfer data from the FPGA. Before seeing your design I had the idea to use the EBI to interface with the FPGA. After all, the EBI is on the AHB and I assume you have a bunch of FPGA I/Os left. What do you think the drawbacks of using the EBI would be? 4. The differential clock output oscillator was connected in a weird way, but I can see that it has been corrected in Rev 2. 5. My understanding is that you configure the FPGA using the JTAG lines in bit-bang mode through SAM3U GPIOs. Why don't you use the sysConfig port of the Lattice FPGA? It's faster, easier to implement with the SAM3U SPI peripheral (and it's also a feature I haven't seen with other FPGAs). See Lattice TN1141 <http://www.latticesemi.com/documents/TN1141.pdf>. 6. The board seems to be powered from the USB only, but the oscillator already draws ~100mA and it's always enabled. Adding the consumption of the MCU and the FPGA you are already above 100mA. If it's really powered only from the USB, how is it ensured that you stay below the 100mA limit specified by the USB standard until you ask for a higher current, say 500mA? I hope you didn't mind my questions above, I didn't mean to be nosy. I just got a little excited about this project. Cheers, Sandor

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RTLSDR Philosophy.
by Leif Asbrink 10 Jul '12

10 Jul '12

Hi All, A device with limited dynamic range like the RTL2832/E4000 dongle needs a carefully designed gain control to allow the user to move the dynamic range up or down to fit the current RF environment. The latest version has the required gain controls, but to write an application that optimizes the performance one has to know the dongle. I would like to use the standard library for Linrad. The purpose would be to get support for other tuners than the E4000 that are available today or that that may become available in the future. There is rtlsdr_get_tuner_gains that returns the lna gain in the case of e4000. The gain values it returns for the other tuners has a small range which means that somehow (AGC or manual) one can set a much wider gain range. In the case of E4000 there is IF gain and mixer gain. I can not find those in the other tuners even though they have to be present in the hardware - but maybe only in the form of AGC. The application program needs to have: get_mixer_gains() get_no_of_if_gain_controls() get_if_gains(no) Or something equivalent to run the E4000. To me this does not look right. Having each gain block as a separate object for the application program to figure out how to handle means that the application programmer needs to know the details of each tuner that might become available. I think a much better approach would be to see the entire tuner chip as an object. That would imply that the "set tuner gain" would use all the gain controls inside the tuner chip in the proper order. In the case of the E4000 tuner it would be like this: Max gain: lna gain set to max. IF and mixer gain set to levels that produce 6 to 10 dB above minimum noise at the RTL2832 input. Reduced gain 1 to 10 dB: The lna should be left at max gain while mixer and/or IF gain is reduced. Further reduced gain: Reduce lna gain. The contribution from IF and mixer is already negligible. Even lower gain: When lna is at minimum we can still reduce IF gain. The strategy would allow the application program to ask for the gain range. Whether the gain setting would accept any value and set the closest possible or whether it would require the user to query what gain levels the system allows is a matter of convenience. The fundamental problem is whether the application program needs to know the internals of every supported chip. A peace of hardware like the RTL2832/E4000 dongle needs a gain control that spans at least 40 dB. The other tuners need the same but in case itis only available as AGC they are not suitable for SDR. At the moment Linrad works well with the E4000, but I do not think it would work with other tuners. I will wait for progress on the librtlsdr library. Hopefully it will be clear how an application program can set the system gain over a range of at least 40 dB without knowledge of the internaldś of the tuners. 73 Leif / SM5BSZ

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stroboscopic (aka equivalent time sampling) using EZCAP DVB dongle ?
by friedtj 10 Jul '12

10 Jul '12

I am trying to implement equivalent time sampling using an EZCAP dongle configured using gnuradio-companion. Since I am not completely clear about the tasks of the E4000 wrt RTL2832, it could be that I am missing a significant information, so here is my experimental setup aimed at developing a monostatic pulse mode RADAR : * I am using a radiofrequency acoustic delay line to generate 4 echos delayed 1 to 2 microseconds after an incoming excitation pulse is generated by a frequency synthesizer. The excitation pulse is 125 ns long, and repetition rate is 4 microseconds. The carrier frequency at 860 MHz is chopped by a fast duplexer, one side being connected to the frequency synthesizer and the other sizer to the EZCAP dongle * the EZCAP is configured with an LO at 860 MHz, 2 MS/s output, and I plot |I+jQ| after keeping only 1 every 8 sample (2 MS/s=500 ns delay between samples, and 1 every 8 samples means a spacing of 4 us, close to the emitted pulse repetition rate) * equivalent time sampling is obtained by slightly tuning the emitted pule repetition rate off the 4 us: I have checked that I can indeed obtain time stretching by tuning the pulse repetition rate +/- 50 ns away from the 4 us dela, with time stretching factors of up to 10^5 (ie the 4 us pulses are recorded as 400 ms traces (thus including 10^5 points or an equivalent sampling rate of 25 GS/s). Now of course a stretching factor of 10^5 is overkill and the RF front end definitely does not have such a huge bandwidth, this is just to demonstrate the concept. With a more reasonable stretching factor of 10 (ie sampling every 4.4 us with a 4 us emission pulse repetition rate), I can expect to convert a 2 MS/s sampling rate to an equivalent time sampling of 20 MS/s, which would already improve my monostatic RADAR resolution by a factor 10, and more or less fit my targetted resolution. So now the questions: * the 125 ns pulse I generate would span 8 MHz. From my reading of the E4k description, this is within the IF bandwidth available. However, although I can observe the emitted pulse (0 dBm), I cannot see the echos (-35 to -40 dBm), whatever LNA gain I use (from 0 to 40 dB). Is the default configuration of the E4k an IF of 8 MHz, or lower. What parameter should I give the rtlsdr gnuradio source block to make sure I have the right bandwidth ? * since I am not clear about task distribution between the E4k and the RTL2832, is there another limitation that will prevent a 8 MHz wide (bandwidth) signal to be recorded through the 2 MS/s I/Q output recorded ? Thank you, Jean-Michel -- JM Friedt, FEMTO-ST Time & Frequency/SENSeOR, 32 av. observatoire, 25044 Besancon, France

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