Leif, thanks much for the informative replies. Some of the pieces are
beginning to connect for me, and I'm going to go back and do some
further measurements, including with the noise head.
In the past, I'd set up a Gnu Radio flowgraph that was in effect a
channel power meter. I will go back and use that to test the noise
floor in various bandwidths. I'll also try using the noise head to
measure NF as you described.
Thanks!
John
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On 03/05/2018 05:21 AM, Leif Asbrink wrote:
Hi again John,
Leif, one other question... how do you use a
noise figure meter to
measure an SDR? I have an HP 8970A with noise head available, but
haven't figured out how to do a measurement where there's no RF output
to connect the meter to.
You could open the unit and connect the signal that goes
to
the A/D converter to the NF meter. Not very practical and
probably very difficult because of spurs.
You can use the noise head and your SDR program to measure
power over the widest spur free frequency range you can
find.
Just use the SDR to measure by how many dB the noise floor
changes when you switch the noise head on and off. That
is exactly what the NF meter is doing although it makes
several more things to compensate for the noise it generates
itself which is important if you measure low gain amplifiers.
Now, you do not want those complications because you want to
measure the system NF of the entire SDR.
What you have is like figure 3 here:
https://cdn.rohde-schwarz.com/pws/dl_downloads/dl_application/application_n…
Your SDR is a spectrum analyzer and the power difference
you observe is the Y-factor in dB. Convert it to linear
power scale and use equation 12 in the document.
In case the NF of your SDR would be very near 0 dB you
would find the difference that you measure equal to the
excess noise you can read on the noise head.
73
Leif