Hi Harald,
vacation time, hence slow response.
Thank you for your feedback. Here are few answers about your several ideas :
b) converting CSN.1 to ASN.1 and back is not straightforward ; there
are some structures in CSN.1 (such as recursive construct with a
"continuation" bit) which may be hard to translate to ASN.1. I am not
confident this would work well.
c) this would be great. I was wondering if there exists a real-world
GPRS L1 and transceiver that we could use, in addition to the direct /
simulated connection to the OsmoPCU ? I am not aware of any
unfortunately.
d) I am not comfortable to generate a full C or C++ code. On the other
side, it would be quite easy to generate headers with proper structs
for each object. This would have to link with an appropriate C / C++
encoding runtime.
Regards
Benoit
2018-08-01 21:58 GMT+02:00 Harald Welte <laforge(a)gnumonks.org>rg>:
Hi Benoit,
On Wed, Aug 01, 2018 at 09:34:27PM +0200, benoit michau wrote:
This email to point to a recent development I
made on CSN.1, which
might be of interest to some of you.
Thanks a lot for implementing this in the first place, and also for
sharing information about it here.
It's amazing that we finally seem to be getting good CSN.1 tools
I extracted and consolidated all
CSN.1 definitions from 24.008, 44.018 and 44.060 (the "consolidation"
part was quite hard...).
I think the biggest problems are the many syntax errors in the official CSN.1
syntax in the specs. I once tried to parse it from proprietaryt CSN.1 tools,
and it was a nightmare. In fact, there are companies selling the cleaned up
and fully confirming syntax for money.
Somebody should submit your fixed versin to 3GPP so they can release a correct syntax at
least...
I have also developped a CSN.1 to Python
translater, and a runtime to encode / decode any CSN.1 structures.
Thanks. What we need to figure out now is how to make best use of this from within
Osmocom. OsmoPCU is - as you know - implemented in C. Rewriting it in python is
unfortunately not an option, if not alone for performance reasons :/
However, it would be great if we could benefit from your work in other ways, such as
a) for unit testing our code (particularly the hand-written encoders/decoders)
b) for integration testing. Unfortunately TTCN3/TITAN doesn't have any CSN.1 tools,
so we cannot use a "trusted, aut-generated" encoder/decoder from our
existing
integration tests. However, maybe there are ways we can integrate your python
CSN.1 with TTCN-3? MAybe it's possible to auto-generate ASN.1 syntax and an
ASN.1(BER)-to-CSN.1
transcoder in python. Then we could use TTCN3 templates in the TITAN world, and
we'd simply call a function to encode as ASN.1-BER, and then into your transcoder
to create
CSN.1 from that (and vice versa)?
c) something like a MS-side (E)GPRS RLC/MAC implementation in python. We could then use
this
over "virtual/simulated" radio against OsmoPCU.
d) maybe generate C / C++ encoder/decoder from your python framework, since it fully
parses and understands the syntax tree...
I'm not a python expert and I have not used your code yet, so I'm not sure what
is
realistic/possible. But for sure it would be really great to use generated
parser/encoders
for CSN.1 in one way or another...
If you (or anyone else) have any further ideas to share, please feel free to do so!
Regards,
Harald
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