hi,
as there has been much spam ongoing and countless discussions of build-problems from users who didnt read the (not quite so good) documentation. i am suggesting a new mailing list for new- comers, buildproblems and so on. i am a bit frustrated over reading countless threads that have nothing to do with actual development.
just a suggestion.
so long azet
also: is there a way to stop the chinese spam? that almost seems to be randomly generated.. :)
who didnt read the (not quite so good) documentation. i am suggesting a new mailing list for new-
Cough, ahem, looks like your mail-archive-fu could be improved as well ;)
http://lists.osmocom.org/pipermail/baseband-devel/2011-January/001036.html
Regards,
Wolfram
serious convenient that somebody put in the web the result of ago dpkg -l I try to compile for 3 weeks: IMPOSSIBLE I proved Debian 5.08 6.0 Ubuntu 10.10 Arch etc thank you
----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Zauner" azet@azet.org To: baseband-devel@lists.osmocom.org Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 8:05 AM Subject: suggesting new mailing lists for osmocombb
hi,
as there has been much spam ongoing and countless discussions of build-problems from users who didnt read the (not quite so good) documentation. i am suggesting a new mailing list for new- comers, buildproblems and so on. i am a bit frustrated over reading countless threads that have nothing to do with actual development.
just a suggestion.
so long azet -- "I have no certainties, at most probabilities." -- Renato Caccioppoli
i hab no problem compiling the source after reading the documentation carefully and the content of the --help parameters of the various programs. also: the distribution should not matter.
this is a perfect example, by the way. and, i've got the mail about the newcomer list, is there a posibility to moderate/filter the mailing list. after the 27c3 talk about wideband gsm sniffing, it seems traffic got quite up a bit and people who have no idea of what they are doing are trying to "reverse engineer" the presented python scripts. maybe just a feeling, but i got interested in both the development, and of course a bit because of the sniffing talk, but developing an GSM stack on cheap cell phones is just a great idea, respect to the developers, by the way for the code so far.
so long azet
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 1:31 AM, Pedro Collado edrocoyote@yahoo.es wrote:
serious convenient that somebody put in the web the result of ago dpkg -l I try to compile for 3 weeks: IMPOSSIBLE I proved Debian 5.08 6.0 Ubuntu 10.10 Arch etc thank you
----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Zauner" azet@azet.org To: baseband-devel@lists.osmocom.org Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 8:05 AM Subject: suggesting new mailing lists for osmocombb
hi,
as there has been much spam ongoing and countless discussions of build-problems from users who didnt read the (not quite so good) documentation. i am suggesting a new mailing list for new- comers, buildproblems and so on. i am a bit frustrated over reading countless threads that have nothing to do with actual development.
just a suggestion.
so long azet -- "I have no certainties, at most probabilities." -- Renato Caccioppoli
-- "I have no certainties, at most probabilities." -- Renato Caccioppoli
Hi,
On 15.02.2011 01:31, Pedro Collado wrote:
serious convenient that somebody put in the web the result of ago dpkg -l I try to compile for 3 weeks: IMPOSSIBLE I proved Debian 5.08 6.0 Ubuntu 10.10 Arch etc
First of all: _don't_ _hijack_ other threads! Did you even bother to read the frontpage of the wiki, and thus PreliminaryRequirements/ GettingStarted?
And why should someone post a list of all installed packages, if all packages you need to compile osmocomBB are listed in the wiki?
Regards, Steve
Well..
Even if, as Harald said, the list's volume is still low and we're free not to answer to newcomers, that's still a great temptation. And on top of that, if "useful" threads get hijacked...
every time I see new conversations in this gmail label, I ask myself whether this is a newcomer trying to compile the wrong git branch, or a real information about osmocom-bb.
Any feelings about that?
Sebastien
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 1:49 AM, Steve Markgraf steve@steve-m.de wrote:
Hi,
On 15.02.2011 01:31, Pedro Collado wrote:
serious convenient that somebody put in the web the result of ago dpkg -l I try to compile for 3 weeks: IMPOSSIBLE I proved Debian 5.08 6.0 Ubuntu 10.10 Arch etc
First of all: _don't_ _hijack_ other threads! Did you even bother to read the frontpage of the wiki, and thus PreliminaryRequirements/ GettingStarted?
And why should someone post a list of all installed packages, if all packages you need to compile osmocomBB are listed in the wiki?
Regards, Steve
Hi,
Any feelings about that?
Well, you're making a few assumptions ...
1) That people that apparently can't read the wiki would still figure out to post only in the right list ... (at worse they would cross post in both ...) 2) Even if they posted there at first, people subscribed to that 'user' list would most often have no clue and they would end up re-posting in the dev list anyway ...
Cheers,
Sylvain
Hi,
that's two good points, I agree :-(
Sebastien
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Sylvain Munaut 246tnt@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Any feelings about that?
Well, you're making a few assumptions ...
- That people that apparently can't read the wiki would still figure
out to post only in the right list ... (at worse they would cross post in both ...) 2) Even if they posted there at first, people subscribed to that 'user' list would most often have no clue and they would end up re-posting in the dev list anyway ...
Cheers,
Sylvain
Personally, I think a web-based forum is more appropriate for user-discussions such as build problems or supported hardware. It also facilitates searching, information grouping and adminstration (moving threads) and makes spam-control easier. (+ one doesn't have to subscribe just to be up-to-date).
That was just an idea, but then again I don’t really want to start a discussion on mailinglist vs forums. Therefore a summary of arguments is found for example here: http://www.freelock.com/blog/john-locke/2010-03/mailing-list-or-forum-theory
Regards, Hagen
On 15.02.2011 08:10, Sébastien Lorquet wrote:
Well..
Even if, as Harald said, the list's volume is still low and we're free not to answer to newcomers, that's still a great temptation. And on top of that, if "useful" threads get hijacked...
every time I see new conversations in this gmail label, I ask myself whether this is a newcomer trying to compile the wrong git branch, or a real information about osmocom-bb.
Any feelings about that?
Sebastien
Hi, * Hagen Fritsch fritsch+osmocom-baseband@in.tum.de [2013-02-10 16:32]: [...]
That was just an idea, but then again I don’t really want to start a discussion on mailinglist vs forums. Therefore a summary of arguments is found for example here: http://www.freelock.com/blog/john-locke/2010-03/mailing-list-or-forum-theory
Yeah and most of them are stupid: - Conversations are grouped by topic => get a better mail client There is one place to go to see an entire history of the community => not true, forums don't aggregate news feeds, git repositories etc. the community is not defined by people who are active in chatter Forums are usually better-organized, easier to browse, easier to search => get a better mail client You can subscribe to some topics and not others, have a very granular control over what you pay attention to => get a better mail client Forums are "pull" -- you have to go to the site and "pull" the content down, instead of it being pushed to you and possibly interrupting your other activities => email can be both push and pull
Given the idiocy of his arguments, I stop here and won't comment on his thoughts on mailing list.
Maybe we should raise the bar for raise the bar for communication and move to usenet!1!? ;-P
SCNR Nico
On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 09:05:19PM +0100, Nico Golde wrote:
Maybe we should raise the bar for raise the bar for communication and move to usenet!1!? ;-P
I'd be all for that. I personally think gmane.org is doing the techniaclly most reasonable thing:
* organize communication as Usenet newsgroups * provide a NNTP as well as a nice web user interface to it
Dear osmocomBB,
I'm using osmocomBB to make a call: OsmocomBB# call 1 0987785050
But terminal response: % (MS 1) % Trying to registering with network...
And layer23 response in my attach file.
Can you tell me why I cannot register with network?
I live in Vietnam. I'm testing on Viettel gsm network.
Just a single screen shot is not enough to understand. Please post loads of logs on pastebin then post that link in here
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 4:48 AM, hunghm10 HungHM10@viettel.com.vn wrote:
Dear osmocomBB,
I'm using osmocomBB to make a call: OsmocomBB# call 1 0987785050
But terminal response: % (MS 1) % Trying to registering with network...
And layer23 response in my attach file.
Can you tell me why I cannot register with network?
I live in Vietnam. I'm testing on Viettel gsm network.
--
Thanks and Regards !
Hoang Manh Hung Information Security Department – Viettel Group Office: 1st floor, CIT Builiding, Duy Tan str., Cau Giay dist., Hanoi Mobile: 09.8778.5050 Email: hunghm10@viettel.com.vn
Dear Hoang,
Please make sure that you have enabled transmission to the network before compiling the src.
It's in osmocom-bb/src/target/firmware/Makefile
# Uncomment this line if you want to enable Tx (Transmit) Support. #CFLAGS += -DCONFIG_TX_ENABLE
Regards,
Arslan Anjum Research Assitant Lahore University of Management Science, Pakistan
On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Akib Sayyed akibsayyed@gmail.com wrote:
Just a single screen shot is not enough to understand. Please post loads of logs on pastebin then post that link in here
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 4:48 AM, hunghm10 HungHM10@viettel.com.vn wrote:
Dear osmocomBB,
I'm using osmocomBB to make a call: OsmocomBB# call 1 0987785050
But terminal response: % (MS 1) % Trying to registering with network...
And layer23 response in my attach file.
Can you tell me why I cannot register with network?
I live in Vietnam. I'm testing on Viettel gsm network.
--
Thanks and Regards !
Hoang Manh Hung Information Security Department – Viettel Group Office: 1st floor, CIT Builiding, Duy Tan str., Cau Giay dist., Hanoi Mobile: 09.8778.5050 Email: hunghm10@viettel.com.vn
-- Akib Sayyed Matrix-Shell akibsayyed@gmail.com akibsayyed@matrixshell.com Mob:- +91-966-514-2243
serious convenient that somebody put in the web the result of ago dpkg -l
No.
I try to compile for 3 weeks: IMPOSSIBLE
Must be something on your side...
I proved Debian 5.08 6.0 Ubuntu 10.10 Arch etc
...because I already wrote you when you asked privately that it works fine with Debian Squeeze (at least). So, go on debugging, the list archive is full of examples what other people had problems with.
Wolfram
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