Hi list
First of all: Thanks to all of you who actively develop OsmocomBB. Second: In the past few months I worked on an interface between a GSM transceiver and ABB towards the mobile application from OsmocomBB. The findings will be presented Tuesday, May 31, 1.55 pm in ETZ J64 at ETH in Zurich (Gloriastrasse 35, 8092 Zürich). You are all invited. The goal of this project was to understand the GSM protocol flow better in order to be able to extend the hardware towards higher layers. To this end, the mobile application (L2 and L3) was used.
Benjamin
On 5/30/11 9:08 AM, weberbe@ee.ethz.ch wrote:
Hi list
First of all: Thanks to all of you who actively develop OsmocomBB. Second: In the past few months I worked on an interface between a GSM transceiver and ABB towards the mobile application from OsmocomBB. The findings will be presented Tuesday, May 31, 1.55 pm in ETZ J64 at ETH in Zurich (Gloriastrasse 35, 8092 Zürich). You are all invited. The goal of this project was to understand the GSM protocol flow better in order to be able to extend the hardware towards higher layers. To this end, the mobile application (L2 and L3) was used.
For who will not be able to be there to look the presentation in Zurich, there will be a website with published papers / source codes about it?
-naif
Hi naif
As for now we are not publishing anything. Corresponding reports have first to be written.
Ben
Quoting "Fabio Pietrosanti (naif)" lists@infosecurity.ch:
On 5/30/11 9:08 AM, weberbe@ee.ethz.ch wrote:
Hi list
First of all: Thanks to all of you who actively develop OsmocomBB. Second: In the past few months I worked on an interface between a GSM transceiver and ABB towards the mobile application from OsmocomBB. The findings will be presented Tuesday, May 31, 1.55 pm in ETZ J64 at ETH in Zurich (Gloriastrasse 35, 8092 Zürich). You are all invited. The goal of this project was to understand the GSM protocol flow better in order to be able to extend the hardware towards higher layers. To this end, the mobile application (L2 and L3) was used.
For who will not be able to be there to look the presentation in Zurich, there will be a website with published papers / source codes about it?
-naif
Hi Holger
I am working at an university. Correspondingly, insights that are not ready to be published will have to wait for publication. A proper report is among other things missing at the moment in order to make a publication feasible.
Ben
Quoting "Holger Hans Peter Freyther" holger@freyther.de:
On 06/05/2011 09:08 AM, weberbe@ee.ethz.ch wrote:
Hi naif
As for now we are not publishing anything. Corresponding reports have first to be written.
What is the threat you are protecting against?
On 06/05/2011 11:03 AM, weberbe@ee.ethz.ch wrote:
Hi Holger
I am working at an university. Correspondingly, insights that are not ready to be published will have to wait for publication. A proper report is among other things missing at the moment in order to make a publication feasible.
So you are afraid that if you publish code that someone else will come by, gets your code to run, knows which kind of measurements you did, reruns them, comes to a conclusion by himself and publishes faster than you do?
On 06/05/2011 11:31 AM, Holger Hans Peter Freyther wrote:
So you are afraid that if you publish code that someone else will come by, gets your code to run, knows which kind of measurements you did, reruns them, comes to a conclusion by himself and publishes faster than you do?
And to keep it short. I am quite annoyed by (some) academics right now and wonder if we should somehow handle it with an official statement or change to the infrastructure.
osmocom is certainly a Free Software/hacker project. I want to share my code because it just feels natural to do so and it is very enjoyable to work with clever and intelligent (human) beings!
Now there is a group of people that are not Free Software developers and/or hackers, I don't mind if they lurk, take the code, play with it, run with it, in contrast I am happy if this code is useful to them. What I do mind is if someone is posing like he wants to be a member of our community, happily receives free support but when it comes to making a contribution, refuses to do so.
comments? ideas?
holger
not an active contributor, but you have my support on this matter.
Sebastien
On Sunday, June 5, 2011, Holger Hans Peter Freyther holger@freyther.de wrote:
On 06/05/2011 11:31 AM, Holger Hans Peter Freyther wrote:
So you are afraid that if you publish code that someone else will come by, gets your code to run, knows which kind of measurements you did, reruns them, comes to a conclusion by himself and publishes faster than you do?
And to keep it short. I am quite annoyed by (some) academics right now and wonder if we should somehow handle it with an official statement or change to the infrastructure.
osmocom is certainly a Free Software/hacker project. I want to share my code because it just feels natural to do so and it is very enjoyable to work with clever and intelligent (human) beings!
Now there is a group of people that are not Free Software developers and/or hackers, I don't mind if they lurk, take the code, play with it, run with it, in contrast I am happy if this code is useful to them. What I do mind is if someone is posing like he wants to be a member of our community, happily receives free support but when it comes to making a contribution, refuses to do so.
comments? ideas?
holger
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