Hi,
On 02.08.2010 14:36, Sylvain Munaut wrote:
A nice typo with just 'osmocom' and a free space to put the suffix ('bb' 'sgsn' ...) either in another typo or just using the bold face and then just some _discrete_ graphical element added to the typo ...
But IMHO certainly not some complex graphical only element.
Ack, that's what I'd suggest as well, something clean and simple.
So here's my RFC: I've taken the wireless symbol Kevin posted, and added a lettering.
The font used is "Yanone Kaffeesatz" [1], which is licensed under the Open Font License.
I attached osmocom_inkscape.svg, for which you need to have the font installed, and can then play around and edit the text, and a "object-to-path" converted osmocom_paths.svg, which is just a plain vector graphic.
If anyone has an idea how to decently make the difference between osmocomBB and BSC more clear, or even has a completely different idea, let us hear/see them :)
Regards, Steve
Riffing on the GSM bars suggestion, how about bars that go to 11 (:-)?
Scott
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 2:08 AM, Steve Markgraf steve@steve-m.de wrote:
Hi,
On 02.08.2010 14:36, Sylvain Munaut wrote:
A nice typo with just 'osmocom' and a free space to put the suffix
('bb' 'sgsn' ...) either in another typo or just using the bold face and then just some _discrete_ graphical element added to the typo ...
But IMHO certainly not some complex graphical only element.
Ack, that's what I'd suggest as well, something clean and simple.
So here's my RFC: I've taken the wireless symbol Kevin posted, and added a lettering.
The font used is "Yanone Kaffeesatz" [1], which is licensed under the Open Font License.
I attached osmocom_inkscape.svg, for which you need to have the font installed, and can then play around and edit the text, and a "object-to-path" converted osmocom_paths.svg, which is just a plain vector graphic.
If anyone has an idea how to decently make the difference between osmocomBB and BSC more clear, or even has a completely different idea, let us hear/see them :)
Regards, Steve
Steve Markgraf wrote:
So here's my RFC: I've taken the wireless symbol Kevin posted, and added a lettering.
The font used is "Yanone Kaffeesatz" [1], which is licensed under the Open Font License.
I for one like this suggestion very much.
If anyone has an idea how to decently make the difference between osmocomBB and BSC more clear, or even has a completely different idea, let us hear/see them :)
Write BB or BSC using the same bluegrayish tone as the icon. I strongly prefer lowercase osmocom and uppercase non-inverted BB/BSC. (ie. the two topmost ones.)
//Peter
nice font and drawing the original tower is here : https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/wiki/File:Gnome-network-wirel.... (just to know)
I also replaced the "m" of mobile with a reception antenna. Does not look very good, but it's just a nice idea.
Kevin
On 03.08.2010 01:08, Steve Markgraf wrote:
Hi,
On 02.08.2010 14:36, Sylvain Munaut wrote:
A nice typo with just 'osmocom' and a free space to put the suffix ('bb' 'sgsn' ...) either in another typo or just using the bold face and then just some _discrete_ graphical element added to the typo ...
But IMHO certainly not some complex graphical only element.
Ack, that's what I'd suggest as well, something clean and simple.
So here's my RFC: I've taken the wireless symbol Kevin posted, and added a lettering.
The font used is "Yanone Kaffeesatz" [1], which is licensed under the Open Font License.
I attached osmocom_inkscape.svg, for which you need to have the font installed, and can then play around and edit the text, and a "object-to-path" converted osmocom_paths.svg, which is just a plain vector graphic.
If anyone has an idea how to decently make the difference between osmocomBB and BSC more clear, or even has a completely different idea, let us hear/see them :)
Regards, Steve
I personnaly like the signal indicator in place of the M :-)
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Kevin openbsc@mail.tsaitgaist.info wrote:
nice font and drawing the original tower is here :
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/wiki/File:Gnome-network-wirel... . (just to know)
I also replaced the "m" of mobile with a reception antenna. Does not look very good, but it's just a nice idea.
Kevin
On 03.08.2010 01:08, Steve Markgraf wrote:
Hi,
On 02.08.2010 14:36, Sylvain Munaut wrote:
A nice typo with just 'osmocom' and a free space to put the suffix ('bb' 'sgsn' ...) either in another typo or just using the bold face and then just some _discrete_ graphical element added to the typo ...
But IMHO certainly not some complex graphical only element.
Ack, that's what I'd suggest as well, something clean and simple.
So here's my RFC: I've taken the wireless symbol Kevin posted, and added a lettering.
The font used is "Yanone Kaffeesatz" [1], which is licensed under the Open Font License.
I attached osmocom_inkscape.svg, for which you need to have the font installed, and can then play around and edit the text, and a "object-to-path" converted osmocom_paths.svg, which is just a plain vector graphic.
If anyone has an idea how to decently make the difference between osmocomBB and BSC more clear, or even has a completely different idea, let us hear/see them :)
Regards, Steve
Here some ideas to improve the "m" Another idea would be to make the "O" like the waves (in term of colors)
On 03.08.2010 11:07, Sébastien Lorquet wrote:
I personnaly like the signal indicator in place of the M :-)
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Kevin <openbsc@mail.tsaitgaist.info mailto:openbsc@mail.tsaitgaist.info> wrote:
nice font and drawing the original tower is here : https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/wiki/File:Gnome-network-wireless.svg. (just to know) I also replaced the "m" of mobile with a reception antenna. Does not look very good, but it's just a nice idea. Kevin On 03.08.2010 01:08, Steve Markgraf wrote: > Hi, > > On 02.08.2010 14:36, Sylvain Munaut wrote: > >> A nice typo with just 'osmocom' and a free space to put the suffix >> ('bb' 'sgsn' ...) either in another typo or just using the bold face >> and then just some _discrete_ graphical element added to the typo ... >> >> But IMHO certainly not some complex graphical only element. > > Ack, that's what I'd suggest as well, something clean and simple. > > So here's my RFC: > I've taken the wireless symbol Kevin posted, and added a lettering. > > The font used is "Yanone Kaffeesatz" [1], which is licensed under the > Open Font License. > > I attached osmocom_inkscape.svg, for which you need to have the font > installed, and can then play around and edit the text, and a > "object-to-path" converted osmocom_paths.svg, which is just a plain > vector graphic. > > If anyone has an idea how to decently make the difference between > osmocomBB and BSC more clear, or even has a completely different idea, > let us hear/see them :) > > Regards, > Steve > > [1] http://www.yanone.de/typedesign/kaffeesatz/
some more designs
On 04.08.2010 14:03, Kevin wrote:
Here some ideas to improve the "m" Another idea would be to make the "O" like the waves (in term of colors)
On 03.08.2010 11:07, Sébastien Lorquet wrote:
I personnaly like the signal indicator in place of the M :-)
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Kevin <openbsc@mail.tsaitgaist.info mailto:openbsc@mail.tsaitgaist.info> wrote:
nice font and drawing the original tower is here : https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/wiki/File:Gnome-network-wireless.svg. (just to know) I also replaced the "m" of mobile with a reception antenna. Does not look very good, but it's just a nice idea. Kevin On 03.08.2010 01:08, Steve Markgraf wrote: > Hi, > > On 02.08.2010 14:36, Sylvain Munaut wrote: > >> A nice typo with just 'osmocom' and a free space to put the suffix >> ('bb' 'sgsn' ...) either in another typo or just using the bold face >> and then just some _discrete_ graphical element added to the typo ... >> >> But IMHO certainly not some complex graphical only element. > > Ack, that's what I'd suggest as well, something clean and simple. > > So here's my RFC: > I've taken the wireless symbol Kevin posted, and added a lettering. > > The font used is "Yanone Kaffeesatz" [1], which is licensed under the > Open Font License. > > I attached osmocom_inkscape.svg, for which you need to have the font > installed, and can then play around and edit the text, and a > "object-to-path" converted osmocom_paths.svg, which is just a plain > vector graphic. > > If anyone has an idea how to decently make the difference between > osmocomBB and BSC more clear, or even has a completely different idea, > let us hear/see them :) > > Regards, > Steve > > [1] http://www.yanone.de/typedesign/kaffeesatz/
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Kevin openbsc@mail.tsaitgaist.info wrote:
some more designs
I didn't like that I couldn't clearly see both the "signal bars" and the 'm', so I applied a few adjustments to the last set of designs. Specifically I decreased the length of the initial stroke to separate the first "bar" from the antenna symbol, made the antenna symbol fill with the background color to hide the corner of the "m" that was peeking through, and reversed the colors of the background and foreground strokes. I think the bars need to be a different color, but I'm abysmal at choosing colors, so someone else can tweak that if they think it's an improvement.
Kevin
P.S. This IS a different Kevin.
On 04.08.2010 14:03, Kevin wrote:
Here some ideas to improve the "m" Another idea would be to make the "O" like the waves (in term of colors)
On 03.08.2010 11:07, Sébastien Lorquet wrote:
I personnaly like the signal indicator in place of the M :-)
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Kevin <openbsc@mail.tsaitgaist.info mailto:openbsc@mail.tsaitgaist.info> wrote:
nice font and drawing the original tower is here : https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/wiki/File:Gnome-network-wirel.... (just to know)
I also replaced the "m" of mobile with a reception antenna. Does not look very good, but it's just a nice idea.
Kevin
On 03.08.2010 01:08, Steve Markgraf wrote: > Hi, > > On 02.08.2010 14:36, Sylvain Munaut wrote: > >> A nice typo with just 'osmocom' and a free space to put the suffix >> ('bb' 'sgsn' ...) either in another typo or just using the bold face >> and then just some _discrete_ graphical element added to the typo ... >> >> But IMHO certainly not some complex graphical only element. > > Ack, that's what I'd suggest as well, something clean and simple. > > So here's my RFC: > I've taken the wireless symbol Kevin posted, and added a lettering. > > The font used is "Yanone Kaffeesatz" [1], which is licensed under the > Open Font License. > > I attached osmocom_inkscape.svg, for which you need to have the font > installed, and can then play around and edit the text, and a > "object-to-path" converted osmocom_paths.svg, which is just a plain > vector graphic. > > If anyone has an idea how to decently make the difference between > osmocomBB and BSC more clear, or even has a completely different idea, > let us hear/see them :) > > Regards, > Steve > > [1] http://www.yanone.de/typedesign/kaffeesatz/
How about getting rid of the second antenna in the m of osmocom and leaving the bars in a slightly different shade within the m? it would aid the readability hugely. i really like the idea of the bars but with the antenna triangle it looks too overdone. btw. what's the font?
just my 0,02eur
nibbler
Hi all,
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 02:55:12AM +0200, Michael Horn wrote:
How about getting rid of the second antenna in the m of osmocom and leaving the bars in a slightly different shade within the m? it would aid the readability hugely. i really like the idea of the bars but with the antenna triangle it looks too overdone.
I am also not quite happy with the readability yet. The connection between the vertical lines in the 'm' are so light colored that it is hard to make out that it should actually read as an M, from my point of view.
Harald Welte wrote:
Hi all,
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 02:55:12AM +0200, Michael Horn wrote:
How about getting rid of the second antenna in the m of osmocom and leaving the bars in a slightly different shade within the m? it would aid the readability hugely. i really like the idea of the bars but with the antenna triangle it looks too overdone.
ack
I am also not quite happy with the readability yet. The connection between the vertical lines in the 'm' are so light colored that it is hard to make out that it should actually read as an M, from my point of view.
imho the logo should be usable even without any colors this means grayscale/ steps of gray and even black and white only.
i do not want to design another one when we want to print some on boxes ;)
--
roh
Hi all,
sorry for never really finishing up with this topic.
As you can see from http://bb.osmocom.org/ as well as http://openbsc.osmocom.org/ and http://tetra.osmocom.org/, I have now used the second of your logo variants.
Wold you be able (and willing) to do the same logo but continue it with uppercase TETRA, BB and SECURITY, using the same font/style?
This way we can differentiate the logo depending on the project site that people visit.
Thanks in advance,
Harald
Hi Harald,
On 22.01.2011 14:09, Harald Welte wrote:
Wold you be able (and willing) to do the same logo but continue it with uppercase TETRA, BB and SECURITY, using the same font/style?
This way we can differentiate the logo depending on the project site that people visit.
See the attached Inkscape *.svgz and prerendered *.png files for trac.
DECT and OpenBSC are just meant as a RFC, otherwise just take the osmocom.png for the OpenBSC trac (since there's a small correction in the first 'm').
Regards, Steve
On 22.01.2011 15:43, Steve Markgraf wrote:
Hi Harald,
On 22.01.2011 14:09, Harald Welte wrote:
Wold you be able (and willing) to do the same logo but continue it with uppercase TETRA, BB and SECURITY, using the same font/style?
This way we can differentiate the logo depending on the project site that people visit.
See the attached Inkscape *.svgz and prerendered *.png files for trac.
DECT and OpenBSC are just meant as a RFC, otherwise just take the osmocom.png for the OpenBSC trac (since there's a small correction in the first 'm').
I've put up the DECT logo on dect.osmocom.org, thanks Steve!
Hi,
To be able to add more extensions, I've added the text as text (using Yanone Kaffeesatz font http://www.yanone.de/typedesign/kaffeesatz/). The paths are still present (to use when the font is not available). I also organized in layers (using inkscape) and added some metadata (title, project page, license, material used, authors, ...)
kevin
On 01/22/2011 03:43 PM, Steve Markgraf wrote:
Hi Harald,
On 22.01.2011 14:09, Harald Welte wrote:
Wold you be able (and willing) to do the same logo but continue it with uppercase TETRA, BB and SECURITY, using the same font/style?
This way we can differentiate the logo depending on the project site that people visit.
See the attached Inkscape *.svgz and prerendered *.png files for trac.
DECT and OpenBSC are just meant as a RFC, otherwise just take the osmocom.png for the OpenBSC trac (since there's a small correction in the first 'm').
Regards, Steve
First of all, thanks to everyone who has contributed to this discussion.
On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 10:36:10AM +0200, Kevin wrote:
I also replaced the "m" of mobile with a reception antenna. Does not look very good, but it's just a nice idea.
yes, the idea is good, but the readability is bad, if you don't already know the project name and can thus 'interpolate' in your brain.
So my preference would be the first one.
A shadowed and aligned "m" as a background to this power indicator letter might improve readability, don't you think?
I also like the inverted project name.
Regards Sebastien
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Harald Welte laforge@gnumonks.org wrote:
First of all, thanks to everyone who has contributed to this discussion.
On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 10:36:10AM +0200, Kevin wrote:
I also replaced the "m" of mobile with a reception antenna. Does not look very good, but it's just a nice idea.
yes, the idea is good, but the readability is bad, if you don't already know the project name and can thus 'interpolate' in your brain.
So my preference would be the first one.
--
- Harald Welte laforge@gnumonks.org
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If anyone has an idea how to decently make the difference between osmocomBB and BSC more clear, or even has a completely different idea, let us hear/see them :)
Two comments: - I like the 'inverted' suffix - I'm wondering if that suffix shouldn't be on the next line (right aligned). It's to avoid a too elongated aspect ratio that can sometime make it hard to use/integrate the logo when a more 'square' one is expected. (doesn't need to be square, just not too elongated. And currently the antenna + 'osmocom' + 'sgsn' is pretty long :)
Sylvain
On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 11:15:22AM +0200, Sylvain Munaut wrote:
If anyone has an idea how to decently make the difference between osmocomBB and BSC more clear, or even has a completely different idea, let us hear/see them :)
Two comments:
- I like the 'inverted' suffix
- I'm wondering if that suffix shouldn't be on the next line (right aligned). It's to avoid a too elongated aspect ratio that can sometime make it hard to use/integrate the logo when a more 'square' one is expected. (doesn't need to be square, just not too elongated. And currently the antenna + 'osmocom' + 'sgsn' is pretty long :)
I don't mind that it is more horizontal than veryical. fits nice with the trac logo approach in the upper left corner.
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