Oh, i also found this: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnu.radio.general/31145
-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manoj_Kumar
lol.
so long, azet
Hello All,
Here i feel to introduce myself again as many are commenting on me.
I'm a PhD Student also associated to a NGO who works for education in poor and rurale students located at remote location, I'm trying to develop a distance teaching system with help of modern communication techniques but with the equipments which are cheapest and even available from salvaged , second-hand market , repaired-shoppes or resale store.
second hand Motorola C1xx series handsets are available here in bulk within $ 2-4 price, and no end user equipment can be as cheap as it is. OK.. openBTS USRP1 and Motorola C1xx series MS will make cheapest and reliable two way communication i have estimated so pls don't laugh at me. My THESIS of PhD also same , hence it is mutual benifit of NGO, me and remotely locating poor children
Mr. Sylvain, I will again request you to provide sniff code which you demonstrated @ chao conf.
Kind Regards,
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Aaron Zauner azet@azet.org wrote:
Oh, i also found this: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnu.radio.general/31145
-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manoj_Kumar
lol.
so long, azet
why do you need the sniff codes to create a "distance teaching system"?
if you have the openBTS working you can use normal phones with it. i don't see how does it relate to GSM Sniffing at all...
then again, I'm not a PhD student
Cheers, Francisco
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Marten Christophe technosabby@gmail.comwrote:
Hello All,
Here i feel to introduce myself again as many are commenting on me.
I'm a PhD Student also associated to a NGO who works for education in poor and rurale students located at remote location, I'm trying to develop a distance teaching system with help of modern communication techniques but with the equipments which are cheapest and even available from salvaged , second-hand market , repaired-shoppes or resale store.
second hand Motorola C1xx series handsets are available here in bulk within $ 2-4 price, and no end user equipment can be as cheap as it is. OK.. openBTS USRP1 and Motorola C1xx series MS will make cheapest and reliable two way communication i have estimated so pls don't laugh at me. My THESIS of PhD also same , hence it is mutual benifit of NGO, me and remotely locating poor children
Mr. Sylvain, I will again request you to provide sniff code which you demonstrated @ chao conf.
Kind Regards,
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Aaron Zauner azet@azet.org wrote:
Oh, i also found this: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnu.radio.general/31145
-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manoj_Kumar
lol.
so long, azet
Hello Francisco ,
It will help you a little also read my all communication on this list in Sep and Oct Month.
http://lists.osmocom.org/pipermail/baseband-devel/2010-October/000715.html http://lists.osmocom.org/pipermail/baseband-devel/2010-September/000616.html http://lists.osmocom.org/pipermail/baseband-devel/2010-October/000641.html http://lists.osmocom.org/pipermail/baseband-devel/2010-October/000643.html http://lists.osmocom.org/pipermail/baseband-devel/2010-October/000714.html
Kind Regards, ========
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Francisco Guerreiro francisg@fnop.net wrote:
why do you need the sniff codes to create a "distance teaching system"? if you have the openBTS working you can use normal phones with it. i don't see how does it relate to GSM Sniffing at all... then again, I'm not a PhD student Cheers, Francisco
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Marten Christophe technosabby@gmail.com wrote:
Hello All,
Here i feel to introduce myself again as many are commenting on me.
I'm a PhD Student also associated to a NGO who works for education in poor and rurale students located at remote location, I'm trying to develop a distance teaching system with help of modern communication techniques but with the equipments which are cheapest and even available from salvaged , second-hand market , repaired-shoppes or resale store.
second hand Motorola C1xx series handsets are available here in bulk within $ 2-4 price, and no end user equipment can be as cheap as it is. OK.. openBTS USRP1 and Motorola C1xx series MS will make cheapest and reliable two way communication i have estimated so pls don't laugh at me. My THESIS of PhD also same , hence it is mutual benifit of NGO, me and remotely locating poor children
Mr. Sylvain, I will again request you to provide sniff code which you demonstrated @ chao conf.
Kind Regards,
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Aaron Zauner azet@azet.org wrote:
Oh, i also found this: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnu.radio.general/31145
-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manoj_Kumar
lol.
so long, azet
it will help everyone if you stop posting on this list.
Kindest Regards, Francisco
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 3:23 AM, Marten Christophe technosabby@gmail.comwrote:
Hello Francisco ,
It will help you a little also read my all communication on this list in Sep and Oct Month.
http://lists.osmocom.org/pipermail/baseband-devel/2010-October/000715.html
http://lists.osmocom.org/pipermail/baseband-devel/2010-September/000616.html http://lists.osmocom.org/pipermail/baseband-devel/2010-October/000641.html http://lists.osmocom.org/pipermail/baseband-devel/2010-October/000643.html http://lists.osmocom.org/pipermail/baseband-devel/2010-October/000714.html
Kind Regards,
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Francisco Guerreiro francisg@fnop.net wrote:
why do you need the sniff codes to create a "distance teaching system"? if you have the openBTS working you can use normal phones with it. i
don't
see how does it relate to GSM Sniffing at all... then again, I'm not a PhD student Cheers, Francisco
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Marten Christophe <
technosabby@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hello All,
Here i feel to introduce myself again as many are commenting on me.
I'm a PhD Student also associated to a NGO who works for education in poor and rurale students located at remote location, I'm trying to develop a distance teaching system with help of modern communication techniques but with the equipments which are cheapest and even available from salvaged , second-hand market , repaired-shoppes or resale store.
second hand Motorola C1xx series handsets are available here in bulk within $ 2-4 price, and no end user equipment can be as cheap as it is. OK.. openBTS USRP1 and Motorola C1xx series MS will make cheapest and reliable two way communication i have estimated so pls don't laugh at me. My THESIS of PhD also same , hence it is mutual benifit of NGO, me and remotely locating poor children
Mr. Sylvain, I will again request you to provide sniff code which you demonstrated @ chao conf.
Kind Regards,
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Aaron Zauner azet@azet.org wrote:
Oh, i also found this: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnu.radio.general/31145
-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manoj_Kumar
lol.
so long, azet
Hello,
can you read english?
here is a one-liner extract from the first message that you were directed to:
URL : http://lists.osmocom.org/pipermail/baseband-devel/2010-December/000912.html FROM : Sylvain Munaut SUBJECT : IMPORTANT clarifications about 27C3 GSM Sniff Talk
================================= Short version: - The exact tools I used on stage *are _not_ and will _not_* be released (or sold ... several people asked ...) =================================
And I guess that includes, no matter how many times you ask and whatever your purpose.
I hope that's easier to understand now.
Your initiative is not laughable, but your request is quite contradictory with the official statement that was made on this very list.
And let me ask : what will you do with software whose purpose is to *spy* on people when your goal seem to be a full fledged communication stack?? I can't really see what you will reuse from that. audio decoding? that one is generic. channel scanning? for a teacher-to-students tool?
Regards Sebastien
PS: Last message from me in this thread
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Marten Christophe technosabby@gmail.com wrote:
Hello All,
Here i feel to introduce myself again as many are commenting on me.
I'm a PhD Student also associated to a NGO who works for education in poor and rurale students located at remote location, I'm trying to develop a distance teaching system with help of modern communication techniques but with the equipments which are cheapest and even available from salvaged , second-hand market , repaired-shoppes or resale store.
second hand Motorola C1xx series handsets are available here in bulk within $ 2-4 price, and no end user equipment can be as cheap as it is. OK.. openBTS USRP1 and Motorola C1xx series MS will make cheapest and reliable two way communication i have estimated so pls don't laugh at me. My THESIS of PhD also same , hence it is mutual benifit of NGO, me and remotely locating poor children
Mr. Sylvain, I will again request you to provide sniff code which you demonstrated @ chao conf.
Kind Regards,
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Aaron Zauner azet@azet.org wrote:
Oh, i also found this: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnu.radio.general/31145
-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manoj_Kumar
lol.
so long, azet
On 01/24/2011 05:19 PM, Sébastien Lorquet wrote:
================================= Short version:
- The exact tools I used on stage _*are _not_ and will _not_*_ be released (or
sold ... several people asked ...)
Your initiative is not laughable, but your request is quite contradictory with the official statement that was made on this very list.
Hi Marten,
your initiative is not laughable, your is goal is nice too. The problem is you go around and bag and this is not how it works. People prefer to donate (money, items) to organization that have a proven track record, that one can relate to (e.g. 'Die Tafeln' in germany, organizations that provide heating for homeless in winter..).
You should start building some trust, this involves writing code in our community. So here is something you could do.
1.) Setup a wiki/site for your phd at your university and point us to it 2.) Put the plans for your system on that page 3.) Build a prototype, thanks to the invention of layers you don't need to have any hardware for that. E.g. start with a prototype that is announcing classes through the CBCH with your own encapsulation of the message. Build the code based on osmocomBB to receive this... 4.) Go for other physical channels with more bandwidth, again no RF is needed you can just start using a SDCH and make the l1ctl connect to your repurposed BTS code.
5.) Sylvian has shown how to get raw BURSTS from the DSP, maybe he is kind enough at this state to help you in transmitting raw bursts. You could realize the 3rd) with two osmocomBB then... at this point you could even do 4th.
6.) if you have done 1.) to 5.) have a prototype in software, some basic illustration that the RF side is working. Ask for donations for a USRP1 and the flex frontends and the antenna. I am sure that once you have shown that 1.) to 5.) are done, that you have a NGO at hand for a field trial that one can make a tax deductible donation to that NGO and they will buy you the USRP from that money.
so please build the trust by building up the system
regrads holger
Hi,
5.) Sylvian has shown how to get raw BURSTS from the DSP, maybe he is kind enough at this state to help you in transmitting raw bursts. You could realize the 3rd) with two osmocomBB then... at this point you could even do 4th.
Even more to the point ... there is _no_ _need_ for raw burst rx/tx for this application whatsoever ... normal signalling would work just fine.
Cheers,
Sylvain
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