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Re: Accessing the firmware of osmocom-bb compatible phone
by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG 13 Apr '14

13 Apr '14

Ahmad Jan <e10007a(a)gmail.com> wrote: > By using osmocom-bb, is this possible to access the firmware of osmocom-bb > compatible phone? Do you mean using osmocom-bb tools to read the phone's original fw and other flash content? Yes, I've used osmocom-bb tools to do this task before I wrote my own fc-loadtool to do it my own way, and using osmocom-bb tools is currently the only way to read Compal's flash - my FreeCalypso tools currently support only Openmoko and Pirelli phones. > If yes, then how? When you run osmocon, specify an appropriate loader.* target code image instead of layer1.*. Then open another terminal window and run osmoload memdump. HTH, SF

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Accessing the firmware of osmocom-bb compatible phone
by Ahmad Jan 11 Apr '14

11 Apr '14

By using osmocom-bb, is this possible to access the firmware of osmocom-bb compatible phone? If yes, then how?

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Re: strange crashes in current main branch
by Tim Ehlers 11 Apr '14

11 Apr '14

On Sun, 6 Apr 2014, Christophe Devine wrote: Hi Christophe, > A year ago, you reported strange crashes in current branch. Did you > resolve the issue? It seems we are having a similar problem, where > layer1 would crash eventually. yes, I tracked it down to the charging code. I think it comes from the fact, that layer1 is periodically polled by layer23 (mobile) about the current battery-status. And there seems to be a problem with queueing these things over the serial line. So if battery-status is polled and other things are going through serial at the same time, layer1 crashes eventually. Thats my interpretation, but fact is, if you revert the patch attached to the mail, the crashes are gone, but you can't charge. :) I modified the mobile battery, removing the battery itself, and replacing it with a 3.7V AC-Adapter, so that I don't need the charging. Maybe you can investigate it in more detail? Or better I send it to the list too, so the problem could be discussed in the big round again. Best Tim

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Re: Motorola C139 V1.9.24 Won't Load from osmocom-bb
by Rusty Dekema 09 Apr '14

09 Apr '14

>> Is it "official" PCS1900 support, or are you seeing some of the >> received RF energy in the PCS band (in a very strong signal area, >> presumably) seep through the imperfect 1800 MHz SAW filter with the >> antenna switch set to DCS? My apologies for the blank message which went out a moment ago; that was a mis-click on the send button. I have found that the PCS1900 support on this C123 is sufficient to run the phone as a BTS using layer23/transceiver (with some code edits). PCS1900-only handsets in the same room can connect and exchange SMS/USSD messages when the C123 is operated in this manner. Using layer23/mobile, the C123 sees a PCS1900 control channel. When I try to camp on that channel, the host (PC) side of layer23/mobile segfaults, and I have not yet attempted to debug this. But it seems reasonable to expect that the phone would be able to camp on that cell were it not for whatever is making it crash. For what it's worth, on a standard PCS1900 phone, this particular control channel in the location where I am testing shows an RSSI somewhere between -87 and -97 dBm. On the C123 running layer23/mobile, it is usually closer to -97 dBm, but it seems like there should be more attenuation than that if it was passing through an imperfect 1800 MHz filter (at least, I would think). Another thing I intend to try (if I can) is to change the C123's menu language from Chinese to English, and then see if its built-in software can camp on the PCS1900 cell in question. Cheers, Rusty D

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Re: Motorola C139 V1.9.24 Won't Load from osmocom-bb
by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG 09 Apr '14

09 Apr '14

Rusty Dekema <rdekema(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Although I would still like to eventually get a C139 working (mainly > for its 850 MHz support), Given your interest in the 850 MHz band, I gather that you must be somewhere in North America. Anywhere near Southern California perchance? > I obtained a C118 yesterday and it works > with osmocom-bb like a charm, right out of the box. (It also has at > least some support for the PCS1900 band, which was a pleasant > surprise.) Is it "official" PCS1900 support, or are you seeing some of the received RF energy in the PCS band (in a very strong signal area, presumably) seep through the imperfect 1800 MHz SAW filter with the antenna switch set to DCS? > Now, back to the C139. If anyone has any further suggestions, please > let me know. If all else fails, I reason that one should be able to disassemble the phone, desolder the flash chip, reprogram it with a known good boot- loader using a standalone device programmer, then solder it back onto the board. But I'm guessing that flash chip is probably a micro-BGA (IIRC it's a flash+pSRAM MCP), so it wouldn't be a home soldering job, but rather something to be sent to a professional lab. If you fancy going down that road, I would suggest talking to Technotronix in Anaheim, California - ask for Gopal, and tell him you were referred by Michael S. from Harhan. > The phone never sends a PROMPT1 for reasons discovered later and > described above. Yup, a definite indicator that the bootloader our tools need to talk to has been removed in the firmware version in your phone, just like in Tracfone's version. > Yes, it's definitely 1.9.24 both on the sticker and the #02# screen. Thanks for the info about the #02# screen, I didn't know about that one before. > When I run the mot931c program, follow the directions, and click > Unlock, I get the output: "Error 2" followed by "Phone not found". Of > note, if I unplug the phone from the computer and do the same, I get > only the "Phone not found" message. Then again, the title of the > mot931c application is "Tracfone mobile unlock 1.0 by Lawer," After I made my previous post, I did run that mot931c program under wine with the Tracfone connected, and it did reflash that phone with a bootloader that is compatible with osmocom-bb/DMTool/fc-loadtool etc. Unfortunately I failed to capture the bytes exchanged between the Weendoze program and the phone - trying to run wine under strace was a little too much for me. So now I need to get another Tracfone C139 from ebay, and be more careful this time.. I'm thinking about hacking the Linux kernel driver for the USB-serial chip in my cable (the PL-something) and making it log the Rx/Tx activity into a RAM buffer which I would then read out - an incredibly ugly hack, but one that would be more within the range of my skills, as compared to instrumenting wine... > and mine is not a Tracfone. Would you mind telling us which branding it is? It seems that Cingular units have bootloaders that work out of box, for Tracfones there is another method that has been proven to work, so what other brandings are out there? > > It should be noted that the new bootloader is very limited (no charging, no > > loading of the regular phone os). It appears that what this tool does (at least on Tracfones with V8.8.17 firmware) is it erases and rewrites the first 64 KiB sector of the flash. The new bits written into this sector appear to be contained as a 65536-byte payload within the mot931c.exe binary; and it looks like whoever wrote this tool replaced the first 8192 bytes with a "good" C139/140 bootloader, while leaving the remaining 56 KiB unchanged from V8.8.17 firmware. So the phone ought to retain its firmware unchanged, but gain the ability to break into the bootloader like we are used to doing. But apparently the firmware checksums itself, as doing a normal boot (w/o serial download) results in a message on the LCD (with the backlight off, so hard to read) about the firmware being corrupted or something to that effect. > The DLTool/"DM Tool" software in this package does not seem to be able > to "see" or communicate with the phone. Which is not surprising at all, as this tool (appears to be Compal's official flasher) connects to the phone in the same manner as osmocon -m c140xor, so one doesn't work, neither will the other. > Perhaps this is not surprising, since the > mot931c tool was not able to "unlock" whatever it was supposed to > unlock on this phone. See above - that mot931c tool doesn't really "unlock" anything, it simply rewrites sector 0 of the flash with a "good" bootloader. VLR, SF

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Re: Motorola C139 V1.9.24 Won't Load from osmocom-bb
by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG 07 Apr '14

07 Apr '14

Christophe Devine <devinechristophe(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I had a similar problem with a tracfone branded c139 (ftmtool error). I guess I was lucky that the first two C139s I got from ebay were the Cingular branded version, which has the classic Compal bootloader enabled. But I just opened the one that came in Tracfone packaging, and indeed the bastards have disabled this bootloader in TF firmware: it proceeds directly to the ftmtool crap, without ever sending PROMPT1 or pausing to check for a possible download. > On IRC, Hoernchen mentioned an older post where the author "fixed" the > bootloader. He also mentioned a pastebin that referenced a tool called > mot931c. I managed to find it and could successfully reflah my tracfone's > bootloader, which now loads osmocom-bb without issue. Here's the reuploaded > software package: > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByHQWL5Q6bSwdkJReUlJWUQ1Z3M/edit?usp=shari… Thanks for sharing. I'm trying to understand how this works. It looks like with both Calypso and Compal bootloaders disabled, the only way to make the initial break-in on a TF C139 is through the firmware's RVTMUX interface. I have not yet tried running that mot931c.exe Weendoze binary under Wine; I've only run strings on it so far, and I saw the instruction to enter **16379#. Keying this magic incantation into a C139 or C140 (both TF and vanilla) yields a menu that allows switching the headset jack between headset and trace functions. Selecting trace causes the jack to be switched back to the UART (like it is on power-up), and looking at the data the running fw spits out, I see TI's classic RVTMUX interface, albeit at 57600 baud instead of TI's default of 115200. But this is where I get stuck: even though the interface is clearly RVTMUX and includes the ETM module (TI's Enhanced Trace Mode), none of the classic ETM command packets do anything. I get ETM packets back with the correct checksum, so I infer that ETM must be present in the fw, but all response packets I could get consisted of just a 0x0E error code octet instead of the expected ETM_CORE responses. Has anyone figured out just what this (presumably) closed source mot931c.exe binary sends to the phone? About to try running it under Wine, and if that succeeds, then strace... VLR, SF

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Motorola C139 V1.9.24 Won't Load from osmocom-bb
by Rusty Dekema 07 Apr '14

07 Apr '14

Greetings, I have a Motorola C139 handset with SW Ver 1.9.24 and a CP2102 USB/UART adapter, which I hope(d) to use with osmocom-bb. In Ubuntu 13.10 (running on [non-virtualized] hardware with an Intel i5-750 CPU), I compiled the toolchain, prerequisites, and osmocom-bb, but when I run the following command (and then briefly press the phone's power button) : ./osmocon -p /dev/ttyUSB0 -m c140 ../../target/firmware/board/compal_e86/loader.compalram.bin I get the following output: got 7 bytes from modem, data looks like: 66 74 6d 74 6f 6f 6c ftmtool Received FTMTOOL from phone, ramloader has aborted got 1 bytes from modem, data looks like: 65 e got 1 bytes from modem, data looks like: 72 r got 1 bytes from modem, data looks like: 72 r got 1 bytes from modem, data looks like: 6f o got 1 bytes from modem, data looks like: 72 r If I briefly press the power button repeatedly, I receive similar output. I would greatly appreciate any suggestions as to how I might be able to coax this into working. Thanks, Rusty D

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An OsmocomBB-compatible phone as transceiver for OpenBTS
by Ahmad Jan 02 Apr '14

02 Apr '14

I was going through different pages of osmocom-bb when i came through that statement: "The following how-to will guide you through the steps needed for using an OsmocomBB-compatible phone as transceiver for OpenBTS." on the following page: http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/Software/Transceiver As i have running OpenBTS on USRP1 board with 2 RFX900 daughter boards as Tx & Rx. I really didn't understand the meaning of the statement i mentioned above. What does it mean? Can anyone help me out?

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Re: Motorola C139 V1.9.24 Won't Load from osmocom-bb
by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG 01 Apr '14

01 Apr '14

Sylvain Munaut <246tnt(a)gmail.com> wrote: > If that doesn't yield anything you might need to > dump the flash (how ? good question ... no idea what option there is > without being able to load code. jtag, or chip unsoldering ?), and > reverse engineer the boot loader to see what changed. I have just posted flash images read out of two C139s and one C140, along with an annotated disassembly of the bootloader and other reverse eng notes: ftp://ftp.ifctf.org/pub/GSM/Compal/ Hopefully someone will find it helpful... To the OP: in case you haven't already figured it out, you need to use -m c140xor with C139 and C140 phones. I don't know what phones would -m c140 (w/o xor) be correct for, if any. Sylvain's direction to use the -c option as well (and then use *.highram.bin instead of *.compalram.bin) is also correct, because the images are bigger than the ~15k max one can download w/o -c on this phone. Also you said your C139 came with fw version "V1.9.24" - are you sure it isn't V1.0.24 instead? The imprint on those stickers is a pain to read, too small... If your fw version is actually V1.0.24, then it is the exact same one I have just dumped and reverse-engineered. HTH, SF

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Required Ububtu Version
by Ahmad Jan 01 Apr '14

01 Apr '14

I have ubuntu 10.04 installed on my system. Will the osmocom-bb work fine on this version or do i have to install some other version of ubutu on my system?

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