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Re: osmocom on windows
by Dieter Spaar 07 Oct '10

07 Oct '10

Hello Mihai, On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 05:25:27 -0700 (PDT), "eisencah eisenach" <wbg_1000(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > PS. The thing is I've done windows programming up until now, but maybe I > should adapt instead of trying to the sw :) I am mainly doing Windows software development, but I don't see any benefits from spending lots of time to adopt C language specific things in the source code so that it compiles with the MS compiler (be it either gcc specific language features or missing language features in the MS compiler). So I use Cygwin which also emulates at least those Unix specific features used in OpenBSC/OsmocomBB/Airprobe. And the C standard libraries are not that different that you won't understand what is going on. Best regards, Dieter -- Dieter Spaar, Germany spaar(a)mirider.augusta.de

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Re: OsmocomBB.TCH.
by Dieter Spaar 07 Oct '10

07 Oct '10

Hello Marten, just some basic technical note about what you are planning to do. The following _could_ work (to be sure if this is really usable in the planed environment much more research has to be investigated): - The BTS is based on a modified version of OpenBTS which allows to send a TCH without the need for signalling to setup the TCH. Similar everything on the uplink TCH will be played back. - The phones are based on OsmocomBB and receive the TCH from the BTS and play it back, they do not send anything on the TCH yet. - If you make sure that only one phone at once will send, it would be possible to press a button on the phone which will start transmitting on the TCH and then talk, similar to simple CB Radio handsets. On the BTS side you will hear the result. However all the adjustments to OpenBTS and OsmocomBB, even for a simple "Proof of concecpt" are not trivial. So you have to understand OpenBTS and OsmocomBB to make the required changes, you cannot expect that a short answere here on the list is the solution for the problem. Best regards, Dieter -- Dieter Spaar, Germany spaar(a)mirider.augusta.de

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Re: osmocom on windows
by Dieter Spaar 07 Oct '10

07 Oct '10

On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 02:22:52 -0700 (PDT), "eisencah eisenach" <wbg_1000(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > I would like to compile the hole thing for windows (change in the osmocore > lib the suport functions - use maybe pipes instead of sockets). What is the whole thing ? The phone firmware has to be compiled by an ARM compiler, and if you use GNU ARM, you need Cygwin anyway. If you want to use a different compiler for the host software, you most certainly have to adjust quite a lot of the source code, expecially when using the Microsoft C compiler. And why use pipes instead of sockets, Windows has sockets. Best regards, Dieter -- Dieter Spaar, Germany spaar(a)mirider.augusta.de

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osmocom on windows
by eisencah eisenach 07 Oct '10

07 Oct '10

Hello everybody. I've done my reading on GSM these last months and have a general ideea how it works. I would like to try to run osmocom on Windows (hope don't get stoned for this :) ) I've been going throgh the files and see how interprocess communication is done (between osmocom and osmoload for example). Do you have any recommendation about what to use on windows as the interface between the 2 programs? Has anyone else tried it? Cheers, Mihai.

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Re: OsmocomBB.TCH.
by Marten Christophe 05 Oct '10

05 Oct '10

> > Hello All, > > How can i download the source code for sylvain/testing branch . > to my PC ? > > I just downloaded git://git.osmocom.org/osmocom-bb.git, > but it is not reflecting / having the file addition and modification or > the changes sylvain/testing branch commited one hour before. > > is there any new trunck for this. or other command then git clone git:// > git.osmocom.org/osmocom-bb.git, > > Kind Regards, > > >

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Re: OsmocomBB.TCH.
by Dieter Spaar 04 Oct '10

04 Oct '10

Hello Sylvain, On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 22:13:13 +0200, "Sylvain Munaut" <246tnt(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > And Dieter's code probably worked on some internal version of the code > that were never even commited on the public tree and he may not even > have any more ... Yes, exactly, this code was never commited. Its main purpose was to get the TCH up and running. BTW, I still do not fully understand what Marten wants to do: - send a TCH ? If yes, with which device, a BTS or a GSM testset like I did with the HP8922 ? If it is the HP8922, this sending of audio data over one the external connectors of the testset also works with a full MOC or MTC, so no need to hack anything. Just use Sylvain's TCH testing branch and perform a MOC or MTC. This of course works with any GSM phone, so no need to use OsmocomBB at all... - something else I have not understand yet which requires just TCH receiving and no signalling ? Or recieve the same TCH on multiple phones ? Best regards, Dieter -- Dieter Spaar, Germany spaar(a)mirider.augusta.de

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Re: OsmocomBB.TCH.
by Dieter Spaar 04 Oct '10

04 Oct '10

Hello Nordin, On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 09:43:36 +0200, "Nordin" <bouchtaoui(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Maybe he needs just a simple example how you guys do that. That might > help him to see some logic in the code and can pick it up quickly. Also, > you never know what experience he has, maybe with some help he can help > you back more. But than again, it's all up to your free time, which is > always too short. The code I used when I started to implement the TCH in Layer-1 will no longer work with the current version of OsmocomBB so it is of no help. This means I have to rewrite it and test it to be sure that it works as expected which will take some time, time as you already mentioned, is my free time and this free time is valuable. I have the impression that in this case a quite detailed explanation including a working example is necessary and some hints won't help but only result in more questions. Although it might sound harsh, but knowledge in GSM and being able to read/understand/modify foreign source code is necessary, noone can expect this to learn here by asking the list. If one takes OsmocomBB as it is and registers to a cell and makes a call, the logging output should give a lot of hints what calls to L1CTL have to be done. Best regards, Dieter -- Dieter Spaar, Germany spaar(a)mirider.augusta.de

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Re: OsmocomBB.TCH.
by Dieter Spaar 04 Oct '10

04 Oct '10

Hello Marten, First of all please be aware that OsmocomBB is now in a state where it can be used for voice calls without any special tricks so there is no need to tune on the voice traffic of the HP8922 GSM testset, you can use the GSM testset as a normal basestation. On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 23:00:44 +0000, "Marten Christophe" <technosabby(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Q.1) i learned from wiki how to change ARFCN from Layer on application by > using below command, but how to tune right TS ? > > ./layer23 -a 871 -i 127.0.0.1 For my inital TCH testing I did not use Layer23 at all, I only used Layer1 in the phone with special test code using a fixed ARFCN. > Q.2) even If OsmocomBB Layer1 CTL is able to tune to right ARFCN and Time > Slot, will i be able to listen what so ever broadcasting from HP8922 from > C123 speaker or PC speaker. non-encrypted, debugging non-hopping) Yes. > Q.3) what command and interface will be used to enter the frequency hoping > parameter, in case i will use FH option? to tune OsmocomBB l1CTL You have to write your one code if you want to do this without Signalling beeing involved. > Q.4) How to enter Minimalistic L1 interface, what is interface available to > insert theses command to layer1 You can use the L1CTL API to setup a TCH with your own code, but its probably easier to setup the TCH with signalling (either MOC or MTC), this way you don't need to modify the code and still get the TCH running. Best regards, Dieter -- Dieter Spaar, Germany spaar(a)mirider.augusta.de

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OsmocomBB.TCH.
by Marten Christophe 29 Sep '10

29 Sep '10

Hello, Thanks u all this gr8.. work .. forgive me for my little novice question.. most probably goes to Mr. Deiter.. but any one from list be kind enough help me from list.. I'm pretty new to Osmocombb i made a setup as advised on *Sun, 01 Aug 2010* blog. with hp8922. ===Q=== " You just "tune" to the right ARFCN and time slot (I don't use hopping during testing) and see that you get your code running." ===UQ== Q.1) i learned from wiki how to change ARFCN from Layer on application by using below command, but how to tune right TS ? ./layer23 -a 871 -i 127.0.0.1 Q.2) even If OsmocomBB Layer1 CTL is able to tune to right ARFCN and Time Slot, will i be able to listen what so ever broadcasting from HP8922 from C123 speaker or PC speaker. non-encrypted, debugging non-hopping) Q.3) what command and interface will be used to enter the frequency hoping parameter, in case i will use FH option? to tune OsmocomBB l1CTL Q.4) How to enter Minimalistic L1 interface, what is interface available to insert theses command to layer1 DEDIC_MODE_EST_REQ , LAYER1_RESET, DEDIC_MODE_DATA_IND thanks , Martin

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by Marten Christophe 29 Sep '10

29 Sep '10

Hello, Thanks u all this gr8.. work .. forgive me for my little novice question.. most probably goes to Mr. Deiter.. but any one from list be kind enough help me from list.. I'm pretty new to Osmocombb i made a setup as advised on Sun, 01 Aug 2010 blog. with hp8922. ===Q=== " You just "tune" to the right ARFCN and time slot (I don't use hopping during testing) and see that you get your code running." ===UQ== Q.1) i learned from wiki how to change ARFCN from Layer on application by using below command, but how to tune right TS ? ./layer23 -a 871 -i 127.0.0.1 Q.2) even If OsmocomBB Layer1 CTL is able to tune to right ARFCN and Time Slot, will i be able to listen what so ever broadcasting from HP8922 from C123 speaker or PC speaker. non-encrypted, debugging non-hopping) Q.3) what command and interface will be used to enter the frequency hoping parameter, in case i will use FH option? to tune OsmocomBB l1CTL Q.4) How to enter Minimalistic L1 interface, what is interface available to insert theses command to layer1 DEDIC_MODE_EST_REQ , LAYER1_RESET, DEDIC_MODE_DATA_IND thanks , Martin

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