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Wireshark values of Signal level and SNR different from terminal (layer 1,2 &3) output values
by Patrick 30 Nov '14

30 Nov '14

I have been noticing from quite a while that the values of Signal level and SNR embedded in GSM header (GSMTAP) in wireshark (b/w 0-255) are different from that visible on the terminal while layer 1 and layer 2 & 3 are operating (something like -60 dBm and 60 dB respectively). Can anybody plz explain why is that difference if both these values represent the same meaning? Is that due to different definations of int8_t and int in GSMTAP.h and gsm48_rr.c respectively. If yes how to convert these values to dBm as shown in terminal? <http://baseband-devel.722152.n3.nabble.com/file/n4026711/sample10_layer23_d…> -- View this message in context: http://baseband-devel.722152.n3.nabble.com/Wireshark-values-of-Signal-level… Sent from the baseband-devel mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Send a packet between phones without BSS?
by rodarima＠gmail.com 28 Nov '14

28 Nov '14

Hello. In my phone specs says that it support: UMTS/HSDPA/HSUPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz). At the wikipedia, I can read: Uplink Downlink GSM-850 824.2 – 849.2 869.2 - 894.2 GSM 900: ------------------------------------------------ P-GSM 900 890,0 - 915,0 935,0 - 960,0 E-GSM 900 880,0 - 890,0 925,0 - 935,0 R-GSM 900 876,0 - 880,0 921,0 - 925,0 GSM1900: ------------------------------------------------ GSM 1900 1850,0 - 1910,0 1930,0 - 1990,0 More clearly(?): MHZ 1111111111 88888888888888888888999999999999999999990000000000 00112233445566778899001122334455667788990123456789 BAND: 05050505050505050505050505050505050505050505050505 GSM-850 : -----^^^^^----vvvvvv------------------------------ P-GSM 900: ------------------^^^^^^---vvvvvv----------------- E-GSM 900: ----------------^^^------vvv---------------------- R-GSM 900: ---------------^^-------vv------------------------ (^) means uplink, (v) downlink. Posible overlap between bands: SRC Band From To DST Band Hole size P-GSM 900 ----(890.0 - 894.2)---> GSM-850 | 4.2 MHZ E-GSM 900 ----(880.0 - 894.2)---> GSM-850 | 14.2 MHZ R-GSM 900 ----(876.0 - 880.0)---> GSM-850 | 4.0 MHZ Can a phone, with a modified baseband firmware, transmit data to another phone directly, without BSS? Or are there any hardware limitation? From https://gnuradio.org/redmine/attachments/115/all_gsm_channels_arfcn.txt Source channel: Channel: 0; Band: EGSM-900 Uplink: 890 MHz, Downlink: 935 MHz Channel: 1; Band: GSM-900 Uplink: 890.2 MHz, Downlink: 935.2 MHz ... Channel: 20; Band: GSM-900 Uplink: 894 MHz, Downlink: 939 MHz Channel: 21; Band: GSM-900 Uplink: 894.2 MHz, Downlink: 939.2 MHz Destination channel: Channel: 232; Band: GSM-850 Uplink: 845 MHz, Downlink: 890 MHz Channel: 233; Band: GSM-850 Uplink: 845.2 MHz, Downlink: 890.2 MHz ... Channel: 250; Band: GSM-850 Uplink: 848.6 MHz, Downlink: 893.6 MHz Channel: 251; Band: GSM-850 Uplink: 848.8 MHz, Downlink: 893.8 MHz For example using a phone on channel 0 (GSM-900 band) to send a packet to a phone on channel 232 (GSM-850 band), using 890 MHz common frecuency. I could't get any useful info about that. Greetings. Rodrigo.

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Location update problems on Motorola C118
by Maciej Grela 12 Nov '14

12 Nov '14

Hi, I'm trying to run the latest osmocom-bb git on a Motorola C118 phone. After a minor problem with the build (as you may've noticed in the patch I've sent). I got to the point of successfuly running layer1 on the phone and the mobile app on the PC (I have also enabled TX). The process seems to be stuck on trying to perform a location update. The status of the ms is always either: show ms MS '1' is up, MM connection active IMEI: 000000000000000 IMEISV: 0000000000000000 IMEI generation: fixed automatic network selection state: A1 trying RPLMN MCC=104 MNC=002 (104, 002) cell selection state: connected mode 1 ARFCN=19 MCC=104 MNC=002 LAC=0xb00f CELLID=0x4fd9 (104, 002) radio ressource layer state: connection pending mobility management layer state: wait for RR connection (location updating) OsmocomBB> or show ms MS '1' is up, service is limited (pending) IMEI: 000000000000000 IMEISV: 0000000000000000 IMEI generation: fixed automatic network selection state: A1 trying RPLMN MCC=104 MNC=002 (104, 002) cell selection state: C3 camped normally ARFCN=19 MCC=104 MNC=002 LAC=0xb00f CELLID=0x4fd9 (104, 002) radio ressource layer state: idle mobility management layer state: MM idle, attempting to update OsmocomBB> I think, that because of this I can't make any calls or send sms (all the requests are being rejected): OsmocomBB# call 1 <X> call 1 <X> OsmocomBB# % (MS 1) % Call has been rejected The log information from mobile when it's trying to do a location update is show below: <000b> gsm48_rr.c:2174 PAGING REQUEST 1 <000b> gsm48_rr.c:2141 IMSI 260021964220249 (not for us) <000b> gsm48_rr.c:2132 TMSI fd82a501 (not for us) <000e> gsm48_mm.c:344 Location update retry <0005> gsm48_mm.c:345 timer T3211 (loc. upd. retry delay) has fired <0005> gsm48_mm.c:4311 (ms 1) Received 'MM_EVENT_TIMEOUT_T3211' event in state MM IDLE, attempting to update <000e> gsm48_mm.c:2199 Perform location update (MCC 104, MNC 002 LAC 0xb00f) <0005> gsm48_mm.c:2333 LOCATION UPDATING REQUEST <0005> gsm48_mm.c:2355 using LAI (mcc 104 mnc 002 lac 0xb00f) <0005> gsm48_mm.c:2363 using TMSI 0x28a3d62e <0005> gsm48_mm.c:914 new state MM IDLE, attempting to update -> wait for RR connection (location updating) <0001> gsm48_rr.c:5428 (ms 1) Message 'RR_EST_REQ' received in state idle (sapi 0) <000e> gsm48_rr.c:1318 Establish radio link due to mobility management request <0003> gsm322.c:4037 (ms 1) Event 'EVENT_LEAVE_IDLE' for Cell selection in state 'C3 camped normally' <0003> gsm322.c:823 new state 'C3 camped normally' -> 'connected mode 1' <0003> gsm322.c:3653 Going to camping (normal) ARFCN 19. <0003> gsm322.c:463 Sync to ARFCN=19 rxlev=-74 (Sysinfo, ccch mode NON-COMB) <0001> gsm48_rr.c:366 new state idle -> connection pending <0001> gsm48_rr.c:1465 CHANNEL REQUEST: 00 (Location Update with NECI) <0003> gsm322.c:2938 Channel synched. (ARFCN=19, snr=16, BSIC=17) <0001> gsm322.c:2959 using DSC of 90 <0003> gsm48_rr.c:4816 Channel provides data. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:1601 RANDOM ACCESS (requests left 5) <0001> gsm48_rr.c:1658 RANDOM ACCESS (Tx-integer 50 combined no S(lots) 0 ra 0x0e) <0001> gsm48_rr.c:1697 Use MS-TXPWR-MAX-CCH power value 5 (33 dBm) <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:1601 RANDOM ACCESS (requests left 4) <0001> gsm48_rr.c:1658 RANDOM ACCESS (Tx-integer 50 combined no S(lots) 55 ra 0x07) <0001> gsm48_rr.c:1697 Use MS-TXPWR-MAX-CCH power value 5 (33 dBm) <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2450 IMMEDIATE ASSIGNMENT: <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2462 (ta 2/1107m ra 0x75 chan_nr 0x0a MAIO 0 HSN 38 TS 2 SS 0 TSC 0) <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2503 Request, but not for us. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2450 IMMEDIATE ASSIGNMENT: <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2462 (ta 2/1107m ra 0x75 chan_nr 0x0a MAIO 0 HSN 38 TS 2 SS 0 TSC 0) <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2503 Request, but not for us. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:673 MON: f=19 lev=-78 snr= 0 ber= 0 LAI=104 002 b00f ID=4fd9 <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:1601 RANDOM ACCESS (requests left 3) <0001> gsm48_rr.c:1658 RANDOM ACCESS (Tx-integer 50 combined no S(lots) 55 ra 0x0f) <0001> gsm48_rr.c:1697 Use MS-TXPWR-MAX-CCH power value 5 (33 dBm) <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:1601 RANDOM ACCESS (requests left 2) <0001> gsm48_rr.c:1658 RANDOM ACCESS (Tx-integer 50 combined no S(lots) 55 ra 0x01) <0001> gsm48_rr.c:1697 Use MS-TXPWR-MAX-CCH power value 5 (33 dBm) <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2450 IMMEDIATE ASSIGNMENT: <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2473 (ta 1/553m ra 0x18 chan_nr 0x59 ARFCN 19 TS 1 SS 3 TSC 1) <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2503 Request, but not for us. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2450 IMMEDIATE ASSIGNMENT: <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2473 (ta 1/553m ra 0x18 chan_nr 0x59 ARFCN 19 TS 1 SS 3 TSC 1) <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2503 Request, but not for us. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:1601 RANDOM ACCESS (requests left 1) <0001> gsm48_rr.c:1658 RANDOM ACCESS (Tx-integer 50 combined no S(lots) 55 ra 0x0a) <0001> gsm48_rr.c:1697 Use MS-TXPWR-MAX-CCH power value 5 (33 dBm) <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:673 MON: f=19 lev=-78 snr= 0 ber= 1 LAI=104 002 b00f ID=4fd9 <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:1601 RANDOM ACCESS (requests left 0) <0001> gsm48_rr.c:1605 Done with sending RANDOM ACCESS bursts <0001> gsm48_rr.c:836 starting T3126 with 5.000 seconds <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2225 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:673 MON: f=19 lev=-78 snr= 0 ber= 0 LAI=104 002 b00f ID=4fd9 <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2450 IMMEDIATE ASSIGNMENT: <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2473 (ta 2/1107m ra 0x0a chan_nr 0x41 ARFCN 19 TS 1 SS 0 TSC 1) <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2393 request 0a matches but not frame number (IMM.ASS fn=22,6,30 != RACH fn=22,5,25) <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2503 Request, but not for us. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2450 IMMEDIATE ASSIGNMENT: <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2473 (ta 2/1107m ra 0x05 chan_nr 0x49 ARFCN 19 TS 1 SS 1 TSC 1) <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2503 Request, but not for us. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2450 IMMEDIATE ASSIGNMENT: <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2473 (ta 2/1107m ra 0x05 chan_nr 0x49 ARFCN 19 TS 1 SS 1 TSC 1) <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2503 Request, but not for us. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2225 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:673 MON: f=19 lev=-77 snr= 0 ber= 6 LAI=104 002 b00f ID=4fd9 <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2450 IMMEDIATE ASSIGNMENT: <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2473 (ta 2/1107m ra 0x00 chan_nr 0x61 ARFCN 19 TS 1 SS 4 TSC 1) <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2503 Request, but not for us. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2450 IMMEDIATE ASSIGNMENT: <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2473 (ta 2/1107m ra 0x00 chan_nr 0x61 ARFCN 19 TS 1 SS 4 TSC 1) <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2503 Request, but not for us. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2450 IMMEDIATE ASSIGNMENT: <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2462 (ta 2/1107m ra 0x7d chan_nr 0x0b MAIO 0 HSN 38 TS 3 SS 0 TSC 0) <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2503 Request, but not for us. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2450 IMMEDIATE ASSIGNMENT: <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2462 (ta 2/1107m ra 0x7d chan_nr 0x0b MAIO 0 HSN 38 TS 3 SS 0 TSC 0) <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2503 Request, but not for us. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:673 MON: f=19 lev=-78 snr= 0 ber= 0 LAI=104 002 b00f ID=4fd9 <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2225 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2225 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:673 MON: f=19 lev=-78 snr= 0 ber= 3 LAI=104 002 b00f ID=4fd9 <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2450 IMMEDIATE ASSIGNMENT: <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2462 (ta 2/1107m ra 0x77 chan_nr 0x09 MAIO 0 HSN 38 TS 1 SS 0 TSC 0) <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2503 Request, but not for us. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2450 IMMEDIATE ASSIGNMENT: <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2462 (ta 2/1107m ra 0x77 chan_nr 0x09 MAIO 0 HSN 38 TS 1 SS 0 TSC 0) <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2503 Request, but not for us. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2225 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:2170 PAGING ignored, we are not camping. <0001> gsm48_rr.c:673 MON: f=19 lev=-78 snr= 0 ber= 6 LAI=104 002 b00f ID=4fd9 <0001> gsm48_rr.c:765 timer T3126 has fired <000e> gsm48_rr.c:770 Requesting channel failed <0001> gsm48_rr.c:366 new state connection pending -> idle <0003> gsm322.c:4037 (ms 1) Event 'EVENT_RET_IDLE' for Cell selection in state 'connected mode 1' <0003> gsm322.c:3565 Selecting ARFCN 19. after LOC.UPD. <0003> gsm322.c:463 Sync to ARFCN=19 rxlev=-74 (Sysinfo, ccch mode NON-COMB) <0003> gsm322.c:823 new state 'connected mode 1' -> 'C3 camped normally' <0005> gsm48_mm.c:3902 (ms 1) Received 'RR_REL_IND' from RR in state wait for RR connection (location updating) (sapi 0) <0005> gsm48_mm.c:2732 RR link released after loc. upd. <000e> gsm48_mm.c:2676 Location update failed <000e> gsm48_mm.c:2686 Try location update later <0005> gsm48_mm.c:2688 Loc. upd. failed, retry #0 <0005> gsm48_mm.c:413 starting T3211 (loc. upd. retry delay) with 15.0 seconds <0005> gsm48_mm.c:1143 We are camping normally as returning to MM IDLE <0005> gsm48_mm.c:1159 Loc. upd. allowed. <0005> gsm48_mm.c:919 new state wait for RR connection (location updating) -> MM IDLE, location updating needed <0005> gsm48_mm.c:909 new MM IDLE state location updating needed -> attempting to update <0005> gsm48_mm.c:2215 Loc. upd. already pending. <0005> gsm48_mm.c:4311 (ms 1) Received 'MM_EVENT_CELL_SELECTED' event in state MM IDLE, attempting to update <0005> gsm48_mm.c:2215 Loc. upd. already pending. <0003> gsm322.c:2938 Channel synched. (ARFCN=19, snr=16, BSIC=17) <0001> gsm322.c:2959 using DSC of 90 Can you provide me any hints on how to debug this ? Why is the location update failing constantly ? Thanks in advance for your help. Best regards, Maciej Grela

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