4 Oct
2012
4 Oct
'12
12:12 a.m.
On Thu, 4 Oct 2012, Mh wrote:
TI or Qualcomm will not sell "you" their IP
, no matter what . there is
a very complicated "legal" process behind these kinds of deals ,
specifically a regulation process done outside the vendor , that is
usually a government organization . you would however be able to
purchase protected DSP style working components and NDAed dox with
6-figure deals .
Ok. So if there was to be a free-as-in-freedom Galaxy Nexus, with full
control of all layers, it would be the result of a real, material breech,
or leak. Someone would have to do Something Bad.
there is a different type of business you can look
into though , take a
look at Lyrtech's stuff for example . you can buy at least as good as
HDL crystal clear IP from them licensed and hassle free with support and
dox and all , but they target specially built systems , usually huge
expensive SDRs .
But the point here is an end user (like me) having a secure and
free-as-in-freedom phone, so unless we're going to create a
community-backed reference platform (which would be great, of course) this
doesn't help a lot. Are there any 3G handsets currently for sale that
have this (more open) system underneath ?
the alleged TI's leaks , mo matter what the
circumstance , are not to my
experiences of much practical importance . if you got the engineering
resources and enough money to put such stuff into use , you may as well
code it all from scratch , since most specs are already public . the
Patents usually prevent people from certifying , therefore , prevent
selling big time for serious profit and limiting the market . its not
like they are Nuclear missile code secrets . difference between
engineering and reverse engineering in Software ecosystem and Telecom
ecosystem is exactly in the time/resource/profit formulation . kids code
a virus or crack a code over a couple of nights using ollydbg , although
they need to learn a lot of math and electric shit before doing baseband
scale maneuver . they almost never do , or Apple offer them Jobs ;)
You're approaching this as if I want to build and market cell site
equipment, or build my own infrastructure ... of course that is
interesting, but really all I want is a somewhat modern phone that I can
control and feel somewhat secure in using, which means either isolataing
the basebadn processor (see my other thread about using USB GSM modems
with a galaxy music player) or breaking the baseband of a platform more
useful than calypso...
I do wonder, however, if these open reference chipsets exist, why we are
looking at calypso as the basis for the "other" osmocom projects (like the
baseband dev kit that has been proposed...) it seems like your example
would be less of a dead end...