Hi Srdjan,
Thank you for the comment.
Unfortunately, we can't perform regular re-calibration, because a GSM base station can't stop transmitting. This means we need a full blow temperature sensor and this is a bad news, as we have to create UmTRXv3 to add it. This is something you should definitely consider for your next-gen chip - an embedded temperature sensor.
Do you know how sensitive those parameters are to a temperature? I.e. should we calibrate adjust them every centigrade or every five centigrade?
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 6:28 PM, Srdjan Milenkovic s.milenkovic@limemicro.com wrote:
Hi Alexander,
As I mentioned before, IQ phase error is quite stable over temperature in 900/1800MHz region so let us put it aside. This can be tuned and fixed in production.
On the other hand, DC offset and LO leakage are temperature dependent as one would expect. However, they can be calibrated in the product as well not just in the lab. You need just to trigger built in DC cal blocks and optionally use RF loop back to further improve LO leakage. If you want to avoid temperature sensor you have an option to do these calibrations regularly, every 30min-1h for example. This should track the temperature change without having the sensor on board.
Our other customers are using both approaches, with and without temperature sensor, depending on application and spec. If they have on board temperature sensor they are using it for multiple purpose such as monitoring BB, PA, etc.
Best regards, Srdjan
On 26/07/2012 16:48, Alexander Chemeris wrote:
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Alexander Chemeris alexander.chemeris@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Srdjan Milenkovic s.milenkovic@limemicro.com wrote:
Combining Thomas's idea of DC recalibration and, if necessary, making look up table for IQ phase error correction vs temperature should put us in good position to meet the specs.
Well, AFAIK, LMS6002D doesn't have a temperature sensor built in and this means we have to install an external one, which again increase BoM cost. Is that's how this issue is solved by your other customers? I wonder is there a way to solve this without introducing a temperature compensation loop.
Let me clarify - DC offset re-calibration is (more or less) fine in lab setup, but it's expensive to manufacture if we have to add temperature sensors and put every unit into a temperature camera for calibration.
-- Regards, Alexander Chemeris. CEO, Fairwaves LLC / ООО УмРадио http://fairwaves.ru