On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 07:53:26PM +0100, Harald Welte wrote:

Dear all,

so far the osmocom.org mailing lists have always been in a 'non-members are manually moderated' mode. This has created a lot of work for manual list moderation, where a lot of the messages caught are simply spam, and only the occasional valid message is being received.

I'd like to thank the list moderators for taking care of this.

However, in more recent discussions, we were considering to move the lists to a completely closed mode, i.e. postings would automatically be rejected from non-members.

The automatic response would contain a description of how to subscribe in 'nomail' mode, i.e. to subscribe in a way to be able to post to the list, while still not receiving any incoming traffic. The latter should be fine for occasional posters who don't want the bulk e-mail that goes with a full/regular subscription.

Please provide feedback in case you disagree with that change. Unless there is major opposition, we will likely transition to the 'closed' mode within one month.

For the dect list I'm all in favour of this. There's very low traffic and almost only spam.

Cheers, Patrick

I, for one, agree totally. Not that i have received *any* spam from this list, but your proposal makes sense. Not that would stop spam, though, they do fake addresses sometimes :-( But because that's how all of the lists, that I know of, work.

PS You didn't specify for "personal" feedback, so I am replying to the lists, many of whom I am not a member. Hope it is not considered spam ;-)

BR, Nikos

On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Harald Welte laforge@gnumonks.org wrote:

Dear all,

so far the osmocom.org mailing lists have always been in a 'non-members are manually moderated' mode. This has created a lot of work for manual list moderation, where a lot of the messages caught are simply spam, and only the occasional valid message is being received.

I'd like to thank the list moderators for taking care of this.

However, in more recent discussions, we were considering to move the lists to a completely closed mode, i.e. postings would automatically be rejected from non-members.

The automatic response would contain a description of how to subscribe in 'nomail' mode, i.e. to subscribe in a way to be able to post to the list, while still not receiving any incoming traffic. The latter should be fine for occasional posters who don't want the bulk e-mail that goes with a full/regular subscription.

Please provide feedback in case you disagree with that change. Unless there is major opposition, we will likely transition to the 'closed' mode within one month.

Thanks, Harald

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Hi

Closed lists will just be more efficient. If the bounce message is clear then most genuine contributors will get that and respond appropriately.

I've only dealt with one real, actual problem as a moderator and it was purely accidental that the offender wasn't a subscriber and I was able to catch it. We should expect some spammers to join but even this hurdle will eliminate the majority and we can boot any subscribed spammers quite quickly.

ATB

Stevie