 
            Hello,
Regarding Balint's newer (2016 version) OP25 flowgraph for GRC, has anyone been sucessful in getting it to work yet? I see that there is a recent thread here regarding OP25 command line version from op25.osmocom.org/trac/wiki. I've been able to get that version working on the command line. No problems there. But when it comes to running the OP25 flowgraph in GRC, well, it seems to require some black magic to get it to work (I've heard rumors of a few people getting it to work, but unverified). The command line version is great and works wonderfully, but it doesn't really teach us much about the inner workings of DSP and P25.
I'm running a dedicated Ubuntu 14.04 machine. I installed OP25, GNU Radio etc verbatim from the install instructions on the OP25 install page. Every thing surprisingly went well. Regarding Balint's flowgraph, I can get the flowgraph to compile and run. I set the center frequency to the frequency I'm transmitting on. All the graphs and scopes seem to functioning correctly. They show a signal being received (from my transmitter), but it just can't seem to get around to decoding the P25 signal.
I know that gnuradio-companion (GRC) and flowgraphs aren't technically a part of the OP25 project, but I thought someone else here may have fiddled with it and got it to work. I've been trying on and off for several days without success.
http://wiki.spench.net/wiki/Gr-baz#op25 http://wiki.spench.net/wiki/Gr-baz#op25 https://github.com/balint256/gr-baz https://github.com/balint256/gr-baz
Here are the links to Balint's wiki and git page if anyone cares to play around with it. I believe the wiki page still contains the outdated (2013) version of the flowgraph, whereas the example at the git page was updated in late 2015 for GNU Radio v3.7.
 
            I could not get anything out of the flow graph either , I can see a signal on fft, I was going to try using a LNA with single maybe a stronger signal is needed. I have since replaced my HDD and had to reinstall grbaz and cannot get op25.grc to run at all now without crashing What did you use for grbaz install instructions? -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 3/30/17, r_johnson2020@yahoo.com [op25-dev] op25-dev@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Subject: [op25-dev] OP25 and GRC To: op25-dev@yahoogroups.com Received: Thursday, March 30, 2017, 5:23 PM
Hello,
Regarding Balint's newer (2016 version) OP25 flowgraph for GRC, has anyone been sucessful in getting it to work yet? I see that there is a recent thread here regarding OP25 command line version from op25.osmocom.org/trac/wiki. I've been able to get that version working on the command line. No problems there. But when it comes to running the OP25 flowgraph in GRC, well, it seems to require some black magic to get it to work (I've heard rumors of a few people getting it to work, but unverified). The command line version is great and works wonderfully, but it doesn't really teach us much about the inner workings of DSP and P25.
I'm running a dedicated Ubuntu 14.04 machine. I installed OP25, GNU Radio etc verbatim from the install instructions on the OP25 install page. Every thing surprisingly went well. Regarding Balint's flowgraph, I can get the flowgraph to compile and run. I set the center frequency to the frequency I'm transmitting on. All the graphs and scopes seem to functioning correctly. They show a signal being received (from my transmitter), but it just can't seem to get around to decoding the P25 signal.
I know that gnuradio-companion (GRC) and flowgraphs aren't technically a part of the OP25 project, but I thought someone else here may have fiddled with it and got it to work. I've been trying on and off for several days without success.
http://wiki.spench.net/wiki/Gr-baz#op25 http://wiki.spench.net/wiki/Gr-baz#op25 https://github.com/balint256/gr-baz https://github.com/balint256/gr-baz
Here are the links to Balint's wiki and git page if anyone cares to play around with it. I believe the wiki page still contains the outdated (2013) version of the flowgraph, whereas the example at the git page was updated in late 2015 for GNU Radio v3.7.
 
            As I remember it, I had to first disable the File Source block and the Throttle block, they were causing problems for some reason. Then of course the proper source had to be enabled. Then the first FIR filter in the chain had to be connected to the USRP or RTL2832 source (in this case I'm using a RTL device). I received a warning about that and the flowgraph would not compile/run without it being connected.
One of the issues with the OP25 flowgraph example from gr-baz github, in that it seems to be two circuits (flowgraphs) in one. In the flowgraph, there's one circuit that uses the Combined OP25 Decoder block, and a separate circuit which uses the Simple OP25 Decoder block (it may have been much simpler to have two distinct flowgraphs).
I decided to use the circuit with the Combined OP25 Decoder block, and carefully and meticulously clear away any blocks that were not necessary for the operation of that circuit. I cross referenced it with another flowgraph using the Combined OP25 Decoder block and everything looks correct. When I run the flowgraph and observe the symbol decoder graph (DiBits), at first I could not see the symbol stream lines at all. - There are three parameters which can be adjusted. The Fine Offset, Xlate Bandwidth and Gain. After fiddling with these parameters for a time, I started to see two symbol lines appearing, the uppermost and lowermost, although they weren't perfectly well defined. I also noticed that by slowly adjusting the Fine Offset and BW, I was able to get one symbol-stream at a time ("scroll through" the four symbol streams), but never all four at once (you need all four to reconstruct the audio).
I believe that sample rate has a lot to do with it, since every block in a flowgraph depends on the master samp_rate block. At best, I was able to get the four symbol streams, but never parallel with each other. In other words, the symbol stream was jumping between all four positions, fragmented, but never all four streams flowing concurrently.
I attempted this with different P25 radios, different antennas on my RTL devive, high-power low-power etc, but still am not able to decode it. The flowgraph seem to be very finicky and requires fine adjusment. But it also clearly works, as shown in an older video of Balint's. He makes it look very simple.
World's cheapest P25 receiver w/ decryption: GNU Radio + OP25 + $20 RTL2832 DVB-T Dongle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wShOLgW2tmI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wShOLgW2tmI
Rob
---In op25-dev@yahoogroups.com, <superstardodge@...> wrote :
I could not get anything out of the flow graph either , I can see a signal on fft, I was going to try using a LNA with single maybe a stronger signal is needed. I have since replaced my HDD and had to reinstall grbaz and cannot get op25.grc to run at all now without crashing What did you use for grbaz install instructions? -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 3/30/17, r_johnson2020@... mailto:r_johnson2020@... [op25-dev] <op25-dev@yahoogroups.com mailto:op25-dev@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Subject: [op25-dev] OP25 and GRC To: op25-dev@yahoogroups.com mailto:op25-dev@yahoogroups.com Received: Thursday, March 30, 2017, 5:23 PM
Hello,
Regarding Balint's newer (2016 version) OP25 flowgraph for GRC, has anyone been sucessful in getting it to work yet? I see that there is a recent thread here regarding OP25 command line version from op25.osmocom.org/trac/wiki. I've been able to get that version working on the command line. No problems there. But when it comes to running the OP25 flowgraph in GRC, well, it seems to require some black magic to get it to work (I've heard rumors of a few people getting it to work, but unverified). The command line version is great and works wonderfully, but it doesn't really teach us much about the inner workings of DSP and P25.
I'm running a dedicated Ubuntu 14.04 machine. I installed OP25, GNU Radio etc verbatim from the install instructions on the OP25 install page. Every thing surprisingly went well. Regarding Balint's flowgraph, I can get the flowgraph to compile and run. I set the center frequency to the frequency I'm transmitting on. All the graphs and scopes seem to functioning correctly. They show a signal being received (from my transmitter), but it just can't seem to get around to decoding the P25 signal.
I know that gnuradio-companion (GRC) and flowgraphs aren't technically a part of the OP25 project, but I thought someone else here may have fiddled with it and got it to work. I've been trying on and off for several days without success.
http://wiki.spench.net/wiki/Gr-baz#op25 http://wiki.spench.net/wiki/Gr-baz#op25 http://wiki.spench.net/wiki/Gr-baz#op25 http://wiki.spench.net/wiki/Gr-baz#op25 https://github.com/balint256/gr-baz https://github.com/balint256/gr-baz https://github.com/balint256/gr-baz https://github.com/balint256/gr-baz
Here are the links to Balint's wiki and git page if anyone cares to play around with it. I believe the wiki page still contains the outdated (2013) version of the flowgraph, whereas the example at the git page was updated in late 2015 for GNU Radio v3.7.
 
            I forgot to answer your question. These were the commands I used to install GNU Radio along with gr-baz and OP25.
mkdir -p ~/sdr cd ~/sdr wget http://www.sbrac.org/files/build-gnuradio chmod a+x build-gnuradio ./build-gnuradio --verbose sudo apt-get install libitpp8 libitpp-dev libarmadillo-dev libcppunit-dev libpcap0.8 libpcap0.8-dev libarmadillo4 cd ~/sdr git clone https://github.com/balint256/gr-baz.git cd gr-baz mkdir build cd build cmake .. make sudo make install sudo ldconfig cd ~/sdr git clone https://github.com/balint256/op25 cd op25 mkdir build cd build cmake .. make sudo make install sudo ldconfig
 
            Hi,
what exactly are your issues? On my system (Kubuntu 16.04, uhd and gnuradio built from source, both from the branches “master”) even gr-baz does not build :) And the flowgraph is quite complicated, heavily relying on gr-baz blocks, also some P25 blocks are not found.
Ralph.
From: op25-dev@yahoogroups.com [mailto:op25-dev@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Friday, 31 March, 2017 02:24 To: op25-dev@yahoogroups.com Subject: [op25-dev] OP25 and GRC
Hello,
Regarding Balint's newer (2016 version) OP25 flowgraph for GRC, has anyone been sucessful in getting it to work yet? I see that there is a recent thread here regarding OP25 command line version from op25.osmocom.org/trac/wiki. I've been able to get that version working on the command line. No problems there. But when it comes to running the OP25 flowgraph in GRC, well, it seems to require some black magic to get it to work (I've heard rumors of a few people getting it to work, but unverified). The command line version is great and works wonderfully, but it doesn't really teach us much about the inner workings of DSP and P25.
I'm running a dedicated Ubuntu 14.04 machine. I installed OP25, GNU Radio etc verbatim from the install instructions on the OP25 install page. Every thing surprisingly went well. Regarding Balint's flowgraph, I can get the flowgraph to compile and run. I set the center frequency to the frequency I&# 39;m transmitting on. All the graphs and scopes seem to functioning correctly. They show a signal being received (from my transmitter), but it just can't seem to get around to decoding the P25 signal.
I know that gnuradio-companion (GRC) and flowgraphs aren't technically a part of the OP25 project, but I thought someone else here may have fiddled with it and got it to work. I've been trying on and off for several days without success.
http://wiki.spench.net/wiki/Gr-baz#op25 https://github.com/balint256/gr-baz
Here are the links to Balint's wiki and git page if anyone cares to play around with it. I believe the wiki page still contains the outdated (2013) version of the flowgraph, whereas the example at the git page was updated in late 2015 for GNU Radio v3.7.


