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Seeking help/clarification on DMR Reverse Channel signalling

by Adrian Musceac

Hello OP25 devs, I'm an amateur radio operator working on implementing an open source DMR tier 3 trunked radio base station based on a multi-carrier SDR structure. I have reached a point where I no longer know how to interpret the ETSI standard and I thought to ask for help here due to your expertise with trunked radio systems. The outbound Reverse Channel PDU is used in DMR tier 3 for MS power control and MS de-key (transmit interrupt). Based on my interpretation of the standard, a couple of things are clear: 1. Reverse channel is only available if aligned timing is used 2. It is supposed to be embedded in voice burst F of a voice transmission on the alternate timeslot 3. The MS is supposed to monitor the alternate timeslot during transmit and derive RC information from it There are a few scenarios where it seems to me these tier 3 services (power control, priority interrupt) cannot be available at all... 1. Alternate timeslot is a control channel 2. Alternate timeslot is idle 3. Alternate timeslot carries something other than voice payloads The standard doesn't clarify these cases and I have doubt that these 2 services can even be reliably implemented. Are you able to help me understand how the Reverse Channel is used in the real world by existing industry implementations of DMR tier 3? Thanks, Adrian YO8RZZ

8 months, 2 weeks

H-CPM demodulator for SDR?

by nanocask＠gmail.com

Happy New Year! Has anyone worked on demodulating H-CPM? This is the modulation used by the SU when transmitting in an APCO P25 Phase II system. Thanks Osmocom for all the pioneering SDR work you have done!

9 months

Osmocom discourse as alternative to mailing lists

by Harald Welte

Dear Osmocom community, while many people with a long history in FOSS development have no issues at all with mailing lists as primary form of engaging with their community, they have undoubtedly fallen out of fashion in favor of various chat/messaging systems or web based forums. In Osmocom, we've just launched an installation of the discourse forum software available at https://discourse.osmocom.org/ providing an alternative to our traditional mailing lists at https://lists.osmocom.org/ We're looking forward to see whether this web-based approach will facilitate more and/or other people to engage with the Osmocom developer/contributor community. Feel free to join and get the discussions started. If there's a need for more categories or sub-categories, just let one of the moderators know and we can help with that. The old mailing lists will continue to remain available for those who prefer them. -- - Harald Welte <laforge(a)osmocom.org> https://laforge.gnumonks.org/ ============================================================================ "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6)

1 year, 2 months

Clay Liner suppliers

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1 year, 7 months

Unsupported TSBK opcodes

by krutzy62＠gmail.com

Minor request. It multi_rx.py it is difficult to find other issues because of messages regarding unsupported TSBK opcodes. It isn't hurting but just filling the log. Not sure how best to report these (increase the log level?). Examples in my case are as below: received unsupported TSBK opcode 30 (b00000040000000033200000) received unsupported TSBK opcode 38 (b800080c2e000c2e00010000) received unsupported TSBK opcode 14 (9400000165ffff3125d70000) I understand the need to know about these but it isn't helpful to have the log filling up with these. Kevin

1 year, 8 months

RFC: migrating git.osmocom.org to gitea?

by Harald Welte

Hi all! [please follow-up-to the openbsc(a)lists.osmocom.org mailing list, if there is any discussion, we don't want to drag it over tons of mailing lists in parallel] Some weeks ago, I created https://osmocom.org/issues/5397 but it seems nobody noticed the ticket or had any comments to it. So let me post this as RFC here on the mailing list: In the past, we had a gitolite/gitosis setup, which was fine in the early days of git, but it means that people cannot easily create new repositories, see who has permissions, and we cannot delegate ownership. Even updating SSH keys requires manual interaction of a sysadmin like me. I would therefore suggest to migrate git.osmocom.org to gitea[1] This would allow the following features: * users can self-create any number of personal repositories (like gitlab/github) * we can create 'organizations' along the line of reasonably independent osmocom member projects like op25, who can then manage their own repos/permissions/... * gitea can link to redmine wiki and redmine issue trackers (rather than using its own built-in) For those repositories hosted in gerrit (mainly CNI), we would still keep git.osmocom.org a read-only mirror, like we do it right now. For those repositories not hosted in gerrit, users/projects could then accept merge requests in gitea. Coupling this with 3rd party authentication via github/gitlab/etc should make it easier for the occasional contributor to submit changes. There is a downside, of course; A lot of repo URLs have to change. Most of our current repositories are at git.osmocom.org/project.git while gitea follows a git.osmocom.org/organization/project.git scheme. I'm not sure there is any way to help to mitigate this... Any thoughts, comments? [1] https://gitea.io/ -- - Harald Welte <laforge(a)osmocom.org> http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ ============================================================================ "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6)

2 years, 6 months

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support receiving signals from the OS? For example, SIGUSR1 might<br> re-read the list of white-listed talkgroups.<br> <br> We have a countywide fire dispatch talkgroup, plus a number of<br> fireground channels. I'm imagining a simple web interface that would<br> rewrite whitelist.tsv and then send SIGHUP or SIGUSR1 to rx.py so it<br> reloads the configuration. If we don't need to hear the incident on<br> fireground 2, the end-user can easily "nuisance delete" that talkgroup<br> from the web interface. Alternatively, maybe we start with all the<br> fireground channels muted and use the web interface to un-mute the<br> one(s) we want to listen to.<br> <br> -- <br> _<br> | |<br> |-|<br> | |pu <apu(a)spfld.com><br> http://www.spfld.com/<br> <br> </p> </div>  <div style="color: #fff; height: 0;">__._,_.___</div> <div style="clear:both"> </div> <div id="fromDMARC" style="margin-top: 10px;"> <hr style="height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; background-color:#E3E3E3;"> Posted by: Apu <apu(a)spfld.com> <hr style="height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; background-color:#E3E3E3;"> </div> <div style="clear:both"> </div> <table cellspacing=4px style="margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; color: #2D50FD;"> <tbody> <tr> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; font-weight: bold; padding: 7px 5px 5px;" > <a style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD" href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/op25-dev/conversations/messages/1906;_y…">Reply via web post</a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px;" > <a href="mailto:apu@spfld.com?subject=Re%3A%20%5Bop25-dev%5D%20Recent%20changes" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD;"> Reply to sender </a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px;"> <a href="mailto:op25-dev@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20%5Bop25-dev%5D%20Recent%20changes" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD"> Reply to group </a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px;" > <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/op25-dev/conversations/newtopic;_ylc=X3…" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD">Start a New Topic</a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px;color: #2D50FD;" > <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/op25-dev/conversations/topics/1904;_ylc…" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD;">Messages in this topic</a> (3) </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <div id="megaphoneModule"> <hr style="height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; background-color:#E3E3E3;"> <div> <div class="stream" style="margin-bottom:10px;"> <div style="background-color:white;"> <div class="sn-img" style="display:inline;"><img name="tn_file" style="padding:0px 10px;vertical-align:top;margin-top:5px;" src="https://s.yimg.com/ru/static/images/yg/img/megaphone/1464031581_phpFA8bON" height="82" width="82"></div> <div class="mod-txt" style="display:inline-block;"> <a rel="nofollow" name="sub_url" target="_blank" href="https://yho.com/1wwmgg" style="color:#0000FF;display:block;margin-left:5px;text-decoration:none;"><span style="font-size:15px;">Have you tried the highest rated email app?</span></a> <div style="max-width:530px;padding:2px 5px;">With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. 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2 years, 9 months

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support receiving signals from the OS? For example, SIGUSR1 might re-read the list of white-listed talkgroups. We have a countywide fire dispatch talkgroup, plus a number of fireground channels. I'm imagining a simple web interface that would rewrite whitelist.tsv and then send SIGHUP or SIGUSR1 to rx.py so it reloads the configuration. If we don't need to hear the incident on fireground 2, the end-user can easily "nuisance delete" that talkgroup from the web interface. Alternatively, maybe we start with all the fireground channels muted and use the web interface to un-mute the one(s) we want to listen to. -- _ | | |-| | |pu <apu(a)spfld.com> http://www.spfld.com/ --cz8u4a15S3Z8xhXIANZsSIz-PwimiGtKD0DIZFM Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> <html> <head> </head> <body style="background-color: #fff;"> <span style="display:none"> </span>  <div id="ygrp-mlmsg" style="position:relative;"> <div id="ygrp-msg" style="z-index: 1;">  <div id="ygrp-text" > <p>Graham,<br> <br> Thanks for all your hard work on updating and adding new features to op25.<br> <br>

2 years, 9 months

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On Wednesday, September 20, 2017, 9:48:21 AM PDT, 'William Becks' wa8wg= @centurytel.net [op25-dev] <op25-dev(a)yahoogroups.com> wrote:=20=20 =20 =C2=A0=20=20=20 James, =C2=A0 Can you post your scope.py command line as a starting point? =C2=A0 Bill, WA8WG =C2=A0 =C2=A0 From: op25-dev(a)yahoogroups.com [mailto:op25-dev@yahoogroups.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 8:15 AM To: op25-dev(a)yahoogroups.com Subject: [op25-dev] Undefined Symbol Error =C2=A0 =C2=A0=20 Hi again all, I'm trying to get the main branch running with some of the changes that Joe= incorporated last year. Everything compiles fine (this is a fresh install = of Ubuntu 14.04) but when running scope.py I'm getting and undefined symbol= error: (most recent call last):=C2=A0 File "./scope.py", line 55, in <module>=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 import op25_repeater=C2=A0 File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/d= ist-packages/op25_repeater/__init__.py",line 45, in <module>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 from op25_repeater_swig import *=C2=A0 File"/usr/local/lib/python2.7/di= st-packages/op25_repeater/op25_repeater_swig.py",line 28, in <module>=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 _op25_repeater_swig =3D swig_import_helper()=C2=A0 File"/usr/l= ocal/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/op25_repeater/op25_repeater_swig.py",line = 24, in swig_import_helper=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 _mod =3D imp.load_module('_op25= _repeater_swig', fp, pathname, description)ImportError: /usr/local/lib/libg= nuradio-op25_repeater.so: undefinedsymbol: _ZN8p25p2_vf12encode_dstarEPhPKi =C2=A0Searching around for this does not turn up anything really. Has anyo= ne seen this before?Thanks,James =20=20=20=20 ------=_Part_291918_532519911.1505926349791 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> <html> <head> </head> <body style="background-color: #fff;"> <span style="display:none"> </span>  <div id="ygrp-mlmsg" style="position:relative;"> <div id="ygrp-msg" style="z-index: 1;">  <div id="ygrp-text" > <p><div style="font-family:courier new, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div>Just a wild  guess, is swig installed?</div><div><br></div><div class="ydpfb7b8230signature">From the desk of, Don Adams</div></div> <div><br></div><div><br></div> <div id="ydp98a0b483yahoo_quoted_6503727438" class="ydp98a0b483yahoo_quoted"> <div style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;"> <div> On Wednesday, September 20, 2017, 9:48:21 AM PDT, 'William Becks' wa8wg(a)centurytel.net [op25-dev] <op25-dev(a)yahoogroups.com> wrote: </div> <div><br></div> <div><br></div> <div><div id="ydp98a0b483yiv1109979224"><div> <span> </span> <div id="ydp98a0b483yiv1109979224ygrp-mlmsg"> <div id="ydp98a0b483yiv1109979224ygrp-msg"> <div id="ydp98a0b483yiv1109979224ygrp-text"> <p></p><div class="ydp98a0b483yiv1109979224WordSection1"><p class="ydp98a0b483yiv1109979224MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">James,</span></p><p class="ydp98a0b483yiv1109979224MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">  </span></p><p class="ydp98a0b483yiv1109979224MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">Can you post your scope.py command line as a starting point?</span></p><p class="ydp98a0b483yiv1109979224MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">  </span></p><p class="ydp98a0b483yiv1109979224MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">Bill, WA8WG</span></p><p class="ydp98a0b483yiv1109979224MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">  </span></p><p class="ydp98a0b483yiv1109979224MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;">  </span></p><div><div style="border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><p class="ydp98a0b483yiv1109979224MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> op25-dev(a)yahoogroups.com [mailto:op25-dev@yahoogroups.com] <br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 20, 2017 8:15 AM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> op25-dev(a)yahoogroups.com<br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> [op25-dev] Undefined Symbol Error</span></p></div></div><p class="ydp98a0b483yiv1109979224MsoNormal">  </p><p class="ydp98a0b483yiv1109979224MsoNormal">  </p><div id="ydp98a0b483yiv1109979224ygrp-mlmsg"><div id="ydp98a0b483yiv1109979224ygrp-msg"><div id="ydp98a0b483yiv1109979224ygrp-text"><div><div><p class="ydp98a0b483yiv1109979224MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;">Hi again all,<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></p></div><p class="ydp98a0b483yiv1109979224MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;">I'm trying to get the main branch running with some of the changes that Joe incorporated last year. Everything compiles fine (this is a fresh install of Ubuntu 14.04) but when running scope.py I'm getting and undefined symbol error:</p><pre> (most recent call last):</pre><pre>  File "./scope.py", line 55, in <module></pre><pre>    import op25_repeater</pre><pre>  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/op25_repeater/__init__.py",</pre><pre>line 45, in <module></pre><pre>    from op25_repeater_swig import *</pre><pre>  File</pre><pre>"/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/op25_repeater/op25_repeater_swig.py",</pre><pre>line 28, in <module></pre><pre>    _op25_repeater_swig = swig_import_helper()</pre><pre>  File</pre><pre>"/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/op25_repeater/op25_repeater_swig.py",</pre><pre>line 24, in swig_import_helper</pre><pre>    _mod = imp.load_module('_op25_repeater_swig', fp, pathname, description)</pre><pre>ImportError: /usr/local/lib/libgnuradio-op25_repeater.so: undefined</pre><pre>symbol: _ZN8p25p2_vf12encode_dstarEPhPKi</pre><pre><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></pre><pre>  </pre><pre style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;">Searching around for this does not turn up anything really. Has anyone seen this before?</pre><pre style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;">Thanks,</pre><pre style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;">James</pre></div></div><div><p class="ydp98a0b483yiv1109979224MsoNormal"><span style="color:white;"></span></p></div></div></div></div> </div> <div style="color:#fff;min-height:0;"></div></div> </div></div></div> </div> </div></div></div></p> </div>  <div style="color: #fff; height: 0;">__._,_.___</div> <div style="clear:both"> </div> <div id="fromDMARC" style="margin-top: 10px;"> <hr style="height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; background-color:#E3E3E3;"> Posted by: Don Adams <busterphenajo(a)yahoo.com> <hr style="height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; background-color:#E3E3E3;"> </div> <div style="clear:both"> </div> <table cellspacing=4px style="margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; color: #2D50FD;"> <tbody> <tr> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; font-weight: bold; padding: 7px 5px 5px;" > <a style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD" href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/op25-dev/conversations/messages/1860;_y…">Reply via web post</a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px;" > <a href="mailto:busterphenajo@yahoo.com?subject=Re%3A%20RE%3A%20%5Bop25-dev%5D%20Undefined%20Symbol%20Error" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD;"> Reply to sender </a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px;"> <a href="mailto:op25-dev@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20RE%3A%20%5Bop25-dev%5D%20Undefined%20Symbol%20Error" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD"> Reply to group </a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px;" > <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/op25-dev/conversations/newtopic;_ylc=X3…" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD">Start a New Topic</a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px;color: #2D50FD;" > <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/op25-dev/conversations/topics/1858;_ylc…" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD;">Messages in this topic</a> (3) </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <div id="megaphoneModule"> <hr style="height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; background-color:#E3E3E3;"> <div> <div class="stream" style="margin-bottom:10px;"> <div style="background-color:white;"> <div class="sn-img" style="display:inline;"><img name="tn_file" style="padding:0px 10px;vertical-align:top;margin-top:5px;" src="https://s.yimg.com/ru/static/images/yg/img/megaphone/1464031581_phpFA8bON" height="82" width="82"></div> <div class="mod-txt" style="display:inline-block;"> <a rel="nofollow" name="sub_url" target="_blank" href="https://yho.com/1wwmgg" style="color:#0000FF;display:block;margin-left:5px;text-decoration:none;"><span style="font-size:15px;">Have you tried the highest rated email app?</span></a> <div style="max-width:530px;padding:2px 5px;">With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. 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hed SD Card to updated and installed all tools to compiled program. This is= on a Pi3 and a fast (100Mbit/Second) connection. I would think around the = same with this no? Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 29, 2017, at 13:02, kb9mwr(a)yahoo.com [op25-dev] <op25-dev@yahoogro= ups.com> wrote: >=20 > I edited the build script to ignore to ignore the ssl verification. > git -c http.sslVerify=3Dfalse clone >=20 > Still the whole process takes forever and a day on the pi. I should look= into cross compiling. >=20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-DD366932-E08D-45B5-A675-0720D3D12004 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> <html> <head> </head> <body style="background-color: #fff;"> <span style="display:none"> </span>  <div id="ygrp-mlmsg" style="position:relative;"> <div id="ygrp-msg" style="z-index: 1;">  <div id="ygrp-text" > <p><div>From scratch, Trunk Recorder takes about 3 hours to get from brand new flashed SD Card to updated and installed all tools to compiled program. This is on a Pi3 and a fast (100Mbit/Second) connection. I would think around the same with this no?<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Jun 29, 2017, at 13:02, <a href="mailto:kb9mwr@yahoo.com">kb9mwr(a)yahoo.com</a> [op25-dev] <<a href="mailto:op25-dev@yahoogroups.com">op25-dev(a)yahoogroups.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div> <span> </span> <div id="ygrp-text"> <p>I edited the build script to ignore to ignore the ssl verification.<br><span class="comment-copy"><code>git -c http.sslVerify=false clone<br><br>Still the whole process takes forever and a day on the pi.  I should look into cross compiling.<br><br></code></span><span class="comment-copy"><code></code></span></p> </div>  </div></blockquote></p> </div>  <div style="color: #fff; height: 0;">__._,_.___</div> <div style="clear:both"> </div> <div id="fromDMARC" style="margin-top: 10px;"> <hr style="height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; background-color:#E3E3E3;"> Posted by: =?utf-8?Q?Mark_=E2=80=9CDygear=E2=80=9D_Tomlin?= <dygear(a)gmail.com> <hr style="height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; background-color:#E3E3E3;"> </div> <div style="clear:both"> </div> <table cellspacing=4px style="margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; color: #2D50FD;"> <tbody> <tr> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; font-weight: bold; padding: 7px 5px 5px;" > <a style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD" href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/op25-dev/conversations/messages/1774;_y…">Reply via web post</a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px;" > <a href="mailto:dygear@gmail.com?subject=Re%3A%20%5Bop25-dev%5D%20Re%3A%20OP25%20for%20noobs%20by%20a%20noob%20%28long%29" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD;"> Reply to sender </a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px;"> <a href="mailto:op25-dev@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20%5Bop25-dev%5D%20Re%3A%20OP25%20for%20noobs%20by%20a%20noob%20%28long%29" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD"> Reply to group </a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px;" > <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/op25-dev/conversations/newtopic;_ylc=X3…" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD">Start a New Topic</a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px;color: #2D50FD;" > <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/op25-dev/conversations/topics/1761;_ylc…" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD;">Messages in this topic</a> (13) </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <div id="megaphoneModule"> <hr style="height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; background-color:#E3E3E3;"> <div> <div class="stream" style="margin-bottom:10px;"> <div style="background-color:white;"> <div class="sn-img" style="display:inline;"><img name="tn_file" style="padding:0px 10px;vertical-align:top;margin-top:5px;" src="https://s.yimg.com/ru/static/images/yg/img/megaphone/1464031581_phpFA8bON" height="82" width="82"></div> <div class="mod-txt" style="display:inline-block;"> <a rel="nofollow" name="sub_url" target="_blank" href="https://yho.com/1wwmgg" style="color:#0000FF;display:block;margin-left:5px;text-decoration:none;"><span style="font-size:15px;">Have you tried the highest rated email app?</span></a> <div style="max-width:530px;padding:2px 5px;">With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. 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