25 Apr
2017
25 Apr
'17
8:35 a.m.
Hi all!
Thanks again for everyone attending OsmoDevCon, particularly to everyone
who contributed to the event by a presentation or discussion.
It is always a huge pleasure to meet all of you once per year at
OsmoDevCon, and I hope we can continue that tradition for a long time to
come.
In terms of improvements for the next event:
1) "Framework Schedule"
I think we should move towards a more defined "framework schedule".
What was a bit sad this time was for example that we had quite a number
of topics (like the talks on the Globalstar signal decode including the
details on its PHY, or the OsmocomBB SDR PHY, which would have been
great to have Tom Tsou's feedback on - but where he didn't attend.
This is of course not particularly about Tom, but the fundamental
"problem" is that we are covering a wide range of topics from
electronics to SDR to physical layers all the way up to the core
network, and that not even limited to one particular system/technology.
And even while everyone might be interested in all of that (I am!), not
everyone is able to follow the discussions in depth, or simply have the
time to attend all of that.
So in the future, I think we should all make a better effort to submit
talks/topics in advance, and schedule them either completely (like a
regular conference with a pre-defined schedule), or at least schedule
them on days. So that we will have e.g. a "SDR + PHY + Satellite day"
or something like that, where then all related topics are, and people
with specific focus area can attend that. Equally, a "GSM/UMTS RAN+CN
day" and a "Miscellaneous day" or the like.
What do you think of the above proposal?
2) "Make use of multiple rooms"
Right now we're not really using the second "front room" for anything
but storing luggage. The idea would be to leave the large table in
there and have it as a "hackcenter" where people can simply work on
their projects (and talk about it) even while talks are going on next
door. This way we can also fit some more chairs into the main room (due
to less table space.
We could of course also search for another venue, which is larger and
has more rooms which allows for some growth, but then as indicated we
don't really have that many more applications of people to attend
OsmoDevCon so far.
What are your thoughts on this?
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- Harald Welte <laforge(a)gnumonks.org> http://laforge.gnumonks.org/
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25 Apr
25 Apr
10:52 a.m.
Hello Harald,
On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 08:35:48 +0200, "Harald Welte" <laforge(a)gnumonks.org>
wrote:
1) "Framework Schedule"
This would be a good idea. This year there were a lot of talks but
nearly no time to just talk with each other or work on projects,
especially on Saturday (in the years before the evenings were
usually "free" and used for that). A schedule (it does not need
to be detailed on the minute) would solve this.
2) "Make use of multiple rooms"
I agree to do that. People could leave a talk they are not that
much interested in and go into this room to work on their projects.
I don't think we should change the location of the venue, I like
it and there is enough space in my opinion, especially if we would
make use of the second room.
Best regards,
Dieter
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Dieter Spaar, Germany spaar(a)mirider.augusta.de
12:09 p.m.
On 25/04/2017 08:35, Harald Welte wrote:
Hi all!
Thanks again for everyone attending OsmoDevCon, particularly to everyone
who contributed to the event by a presentation or discussion.
Thanks again for
organisation, invitation, and food!
In terms of improvements for the next event:
1) "Framework Schedule"
not
everyone is able to follow the discussions in depth, or simply have the
time to attend all of that.
Right. I think there is a mismatch of levels of
knowledge and experience
in various areas,
Some people have been working on things for years, and some of us
present are new to it.
That doesn't indicate a lack of interest, but then the presentations at
osmodevcon doesn't feel like the place to ask some more basic questions.
I have attended two osmodevcons now because of the work with rhizomatica
and GSM. That doesn't mean at all that I am not interested in other
projects, I have always been fascinated by radio. So it's also an
interesting aspect of the devcon, that there is not really the option to
"skip" a talk, so you also find out things that you didn't know that you
didn't know.. Other people for sure, may not share that interest.
So in the future, I think we should all make a better effort to submit
talks/topics in advance, and schedule them either completely
Right, it might be
useful also in order to do a little targeted
preparation, like some basic pre research on the topic of say radio
ripple might have allowed me to get more from that talk, rather than
looking up things during the talk. -Not just at a conference, of course,
but these days one often has some attention on the local device/screen
and some on the talk/projection, or whatever else is going on. Some
people are very good at this, but I have yet to meet a human who can
TRUELY multi-task in this fashion.
2) "Make use of multiple rooms"
Generally at conferences we often see
talks finished with an "If there
are any other questions, you can always find the speaker during the event.."
During the breaks at OsmoDevCon, one can get into interesting
conversations about things, but in the interests of prevention of
cruelty to thermos flasks, it is usually cut short.
A space where one could ask and/or share ideas on other peoples
projects, would be great.
I'm all for more time to talk to each other.
The couch and round table is not very comfortable anyway, It is kind of
the wrong height, making me want to actually put the lap-top on the lap,
but then the table is in the way. And then of course, if you try to sit
around the other side of that table, the result is total congestion.
I never looked, but I assume there is a door that closes to the second
room? There is also a beamer in there? so I suppose even a further
presentation could be done, re what I wrote above. Or one could always
invite CCC VOC to stream room 1 to room 2? :-)
All in all, a good proposal. I would go for it.
k/
1:31 p.m.
Hi Harald,
1) "Framework Schedule"
I think we should move towards a more defined "framework schedule".
That sounds like a good idea. I generally was happy to hear all the
talks, but some of them were too
technical to really learn something from them. Way above my knowledge
level in that topic.
I could also have done some work then. If we have a schedule, I can be
sure to not miss something
I am interested in while working in another room.
And of course it's good for all that cannot attend on every days to be
able to choose the topics they want to hear.
2) "Make use of multiple rooms"
Makes sense. But I think only with the scheduling of presentations. Because if
you are separated from the main room you would likely miss something cool if you
don't always check what topic is currently talked about.
We could of course also search for another venue,
which is larger and
has more rooms which allows for some growth, but then as indicated we...
To be honest, I really liked the location and its atmosphere (and all
the different
beverages). When using more rooms the space should be sufficient.
This was my first time at an OsmoDevCon and I am glad I was a part of it.
I learned so many new stuff and met new interesting people. Thanks :)
29 Apr
29 Apr
2:29 p.m.
Hi,
1) "Framework Schedule"
I think we should move towards a more defined "framework schedule".
I definitely support this idea.
2) "Make use of multiple rooms"
> Makes sense. But I think only with the scheduling of presentations.
Because if
> you are separated from the main room you would
likely miss something
cool if you
> don't always check what topic is currently
talked about.
Yeah, the same opinion here.
That was great three days, thanks!
Hope to see you guys again in the next year.
With best regards,
Vadim Yanitskiy.
2017-04-25 18:31 GMT+07:00 Sebastian Stumpf <
sebastian.stumpf87(a)googlemail.com>gt;:
Hi Harald,
1) "Framework Schedule"
I think we should move towards a more defined "framework schedule".
That sounds like a good idea. I generally was happy to hear all the
talks, but some of them were too
technical to really learn something from them. Way above my knowledge
level in that topic.
I could also have done some work then. If we have a schedule, I can be
sure to not miss something
I am interested in while working in another room.
And of course it's good for all that cannot attend on every days to be
able to choose the topics they want to hear.
2) "Make use of multiple rooms"
Makes sense. But I think only with the scheduling of presentations.
Because if
you are separated from the main room you would likely miss something cool
if you
don't always check what topic is currently talked about.
We could of course also search for another venue,
which is larger and
has more rooms which allows for some growth, but then as indicated we...
To be honest, I really liked the location and its atmosphere (and all
the different
beverages). When using more rooms the space should be sufficient.
This was my first time at an OsmoDevCon and I am glad I was a part of it.
I learned so many new stuff and met new interesting people. Thanks :)
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