I finally managed to place a call. After trying to use the test base and compile, it gave error for some function which was expecting a parameter. I found that I had to put NULL as parameter and after this it compiled with no errors. I also reported this on irc and someone has fixed this - the repository now has this parameter. Someone said that there should be two separate discussion lists - for users and dev - because there are newbie questions around. Well, I must tell you that I really did read the wiki, watched the presentations and so on and still couldn't find a complete guide on how to use Osmocom. As you can see, in the case above it wasn't at all my fault that the parameter was missing. Please don't jump to conclusions so quickly. My impression is that for an open-source project it seems to be more closed. If you did discover something then why not share?   For all who try to make your first call: if you followed all the steps from wiki and you still have problems making a call, check if your cable fits good in the phone and try also with the prebuilt arm instead of building yours. For me these two things did the trick.     --- On Mon, 1/17/11, Dobrica Pavlinusic <dpavlin(a)rot13.org> wrote: From: Dobrica Pavlinusic <dpavlin(a)rot13.org> Subject: Re: wiki: SIMReader Was: Sim on C115 & C118 To: "Bogdan Alecu" <b.alecu(a)yahoo.com> Cc: baseband-devel(a)lists.osmocom.org Date: Monday, January 17, 2011, 9:31 PM On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:46:50AM -0800, Bogdan Alecu wrote: This is often second question after getting SIM working, so I want to share what I know. However, I'm not an expert, and most of this is gathered from presentations and speaking with people who know more than I do, so I wanted to bounce this against mailing list for additional comments. As far as I understand it, to connect to provider network, you need provider's ki which is shared secret between network and sim card. There are some practical attacks on older sim cards which are used by multi-network sim cards. It seems there is limited number of brute-force interations that cards support before disabling themself and that changed somehow in recent cards. Best SIM explanation I found so far is on 27C3 wiki about GSM network: http://events.ccc.de/congress/2010/wiki/GSM#Why_do_I_need_to_buy_your_SIM_c… -- Dobrica Pavlinusic               2share!2flame            dpavlin(a)rot13.org Unix addict. Internet consultant.             http://www.rot13.org/~dpavlin

I finally managed to place a call. After trying to use the test base and compile, it gave error for some function which was expecting a parameter. I found that I had to put NULL as parameter and after this it compiled with no errors. I also reported this on irc and someone has fixed this - the repository now has this parameter. Someone said that there should be two separate discussion lists - for users and dev - because there are newbie questions around. Well, I must tell you that I really did read the wiki, watched the presentations and so on and still couldn't find a complete guide on how to use Osmocom. As you can see, in the case above it wasn't at all my fault that the parameter was missing. Please don't jump to conclusions so quickly. My impression is that for an open-source project it seems to be more closed. If you did discover something then why not share?   For all who try to make your first call: if you followed all the steps from wiki and you still have problems making a call, check if your cable fits good in the phone and try also with the prebuilt arm instead of building yours. For me these two things did the trick.     --- On Mon, 1/17/11, Dobrica Pavlinusic <dpavlin(a)rot13.org> wrote: From: Dobrica Pavlinusic <dpavlin(a)rot13.org> Subject: Re: wiki: SIMReader Was: Sim on C115 & C118 To: "Bogdan Alecu" <b.alecu(a)yahoo.com> Cc: baseband-devel(a)lists.osmocom.org Date: Monday, January 17, 2011, 9:31 PM On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:46:50AM -0800, Bogdan Alecu wrote: This is often second question after getting SIM working, so I want to share what I know. However, I'm not an expert, and most of this is gathered from presentations and speaking with people who know more than I do, so I wanted to bounce this against mailing list for additional comments. As far as I understand it, to connect to provider network, you need provider's ki which is shared secret between network and sim card. There are some practical attacks on older sim cards which are used by multi-network sim cards. It seems there is limited number of brute-force interations that cards support before disabling themself and that changed somehow in recent cards. Best SIM explanation I found so far is on 27C3 wiki about GSM network: http://events.ccc.de/congress/2010/wiki/GSM#Why_do_I_need_to_buy_your_SIM_c… -- Dobrica Pavlinusic               2share!2flame            dpavlin(a)rot13.org Unix addict. Internet consultant.             http://www.rot13.org/~dpavlin