Marten Christophe wrote: Kindly read http://lists.osmocom.org/pipermail/baseband-devel/2010-December/000912.html I'm sure you realize that this sounds like a nagging child. I think one can always beenfit from considering the group that one is communicating in. Many quite skilled developers work together in this and most other open source projects, and the way to get things that one wants is never to nag. At best one will be silently ignored, at worst one will get banned. In any case, the impression people will be left with suffers dramatically from any behavior not clearly trying to further the project. I have seen this happen in many projects, and many times I am sure that it is caused mainly by problems in communication, such as language barriers, rhetoric skill, and so on. Other times it is simply because someone is stupid. (I don't know you at all well enough to say if that holds for you, probably not, but your emails may cause people to think so.) .. I guess you are still working on the idea that developers here fairly clearly judged as not being really worthwhile. And now you plea for people to go out of their way to support it. That demonstrates a lack of understanding for open source projects, where *you* are always responsible for fulfilling *your* needs. Of course you can ask others to do stuff, by politely making suggestions, but you must respect if they have no interest in your ideas. But nothing stops you from moving ahead on your own and proving everyone wrong! In fact that is one great thing about open source. When going against the flow of course you must be prepared to not get much, if any, help. Maybe Sylvain will be interested in licensing some work to your NGO for a pilot project - if so I guess he will get in touch with you - but honestly I doubt that, based on nothing but how you behave on this mailing list. :\ Besides the tone in your email you have hijacked the thread about the Osmocom logo request. This suggests unfamiliarity with mailing list etiquette, which also hurts your standing in the project rather severely. One could think this should not be so important, because it is a technicality, but on the other hand we are all technicians, and the technicalities are there for a reason; they allow the most efficient communication. So by not knowing the etiquette you are creating inefficiencies for every mailing list subscriber and for the afterworld (in the archives) which as I am sure you understand is very strongly frowned upon. Perhaps you could benefit from the recently announced TETRA code.. http://tetra.osmocom.org/trac/ Maybe it fits your application better than plain GSM, as you seem to be on good terms with the regulatory body in your deployment area. Kind regards //Peter