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Neels Hofmeyr nhofmeyr at sysmocom.deI am noting possible duplication in effort preparing the camp as well as digital infrastructure. Apparently bibor and lynxis aim to manage wiki etc on code.fe80.eu and the event-orga ML, and Osmocom to be part of the Singularity City. In contrast, this Osmocom Village mail seems to suggest a separate village and wiki+ML. I also at some point noted separate efforts made by different people for setting up a large Osmocom tent, IIUC. I'm not sure how to consolidate, but I get the strong feeling that bibor, lynxis and laforge should talk about the camp preparations to avoid "aneinander vorbeireden", confusion and redundant efforts ... ? ~N On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 06:54:04PM +0200, Harald Welte wrote: > Dear all, > > I've been asked by a number of pepole about a possible Osmocom village at the > CCC Camp 2019. I personally didn't really have any plans, but given related > e-mails and "encouragement" I went ahead and registered an "Osmocom Village", > see > https://signup.c3assemblies.de/assembly/3b8f7aa2-95d5-4c44-aadc-de8f2680e9c3 > > I also created a wiki page (as nobody else did, despite earlier discussion on IRC, > SCNR) for coordinating related efforts at > https://osmocom.org/projects/osmo-dev-con/wiki/CCC_Camp_2019 > > One of the bigger questions is about having a tent as well as some tables/benches > to sit on and work. The Camp orga team nas been negotiating rates with a tent > rental company, but to be honest I'm rather surprised by the extremely steep > pricing. The smallest possible tent (6m x 3m) would cost 825 EUR. I'm not > sure we want to raise that amount of money? Even if we'd be 10 people sharing > it, its still 82.50 EUR per person. And that excludes any tables/chairs. > > I'm attaching the relevant parts of a mail from the assemblies orga team FYI. > > Please note there also is some kind of fragmentation / overlap with the > team planning to run the GSM/3G networks at the camp, see Lynxis' > related post at > https://lists.osmocom.org/mailman/private/osmocom-event-orga/2019-June/000362.html > > It's questionable whether it makes sense to have tow distinct > 'villages', but given that e.g. I don't know anyone of that singularity > city, I'm not sure if we'd either be welcome there, nor whether we'd > want to associate us with them? Also, while the GSM network operation > for sure has good reasons to mingle with the POC and whatever facilities > they have, I'm not sure if the wider Osmocom community attendees > unrelated to the GSM network operation wouldn't just be a > disturbance/nuisance. > > In the end, to be honest, I personally do not feel I have the time and > mental capacity to take on any additional tasks in terms of organizing > anything. I just created the entry in c3assemblies as I was asked to, > and I similarly created the related mailing list and wiki page. > > So please, anyone interested in making an Osmocom village happen one way > or another, step up [and continue this discussion on the > camp2019-village at lists.osmocom.org mailing list, without crossposting > everywhere else :) > > Regards, > Harald > -- > - Harald Welte <laforge at gnumonks.org> http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ > ============================================================================ > "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." > (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) > Ticket sale is over. There are no more tickets available. There will be no ticket sale on site. That means > you should know how many will join your village. In the next days we start planning the placing of the > assemblies, we need your help. > > Please update your village registration at [3] https://signup.c3assemblies.de/ with the number of people > who will join, extra space you require, power requirements, and such. Please write all information to be > considered in the village registration form. > > There have been some frequently asked questions in the last weeks. So we want to address some topics here: > > Tents/Tables/Benches/Construction Wood: > Prebuilt tents, tables, benches and wood can be borrowed or bought via the presale system: [4] > https://tickets.events.ccc.de/camp2019hw/. For now there are only tents because we need to order them > soon. The rest will follow and can be bought with the same voucher. You will recieve a voucher with this > email (see below). The earlier you order your stuff, the more likely we can provide what you want. > Especially tents might be in short supply. Please remember bringing cash for the mandatory deposit of € > 100,- for renting tables and benches. > > Water: > We want to remind you, if you bring cooking equipment, there will be no direct fresh water and waste water > supply for your kitchen. We will have some central places with fresh water supply and where you can wash > your kitchen utensiles and dishes. > > Power: > Power will be generated from diesel with power generators. All engergy you'll use will have to be > generated. Think about our environment and use as little power as possible. For that reason, there is no > possibility to fulfill high power demands for pizza ovens, saunas and alike. If you need cooling for your > food supplies, please think about your refrigeration requirements. Less is more. And please bring enough > outdoor and rain proof extension cables to connect your tents and equipment. > > Fire: > Open wood or coal fire is not allowed at any time. That applies for anything that needs heat for kitchen > usage. If you need heat, please bring your own safe gas-based camping heaters. > > Waste: > Of course there will be containers for waste, paper and glass on the camp site. But the camp tries to be > as sustainable and ecological as possible. So please consider bringing reusable dishes and cutlery. Also > think about bringing a refillable water bottle for this is the more ecological alternative to bottled > water. The tap water is perfectly drinkable. > > Wiki: > There will be no automatic transfer of your data from the village registration tool to the wiki. Please > create your own Wiki page using the form at [5] https://events.ccc.de/camp/2019/wiki/Form:Village if you > want your village appear in the wiki. Please be aware that the only valid place for village registration > is [6] https://signup.c3assemblies.de/ > > Timeline: > 14.8: Buildup: Only for angels who help with buildup and registered at the orga- or angelsystem with their dates > 16.8: People can start to build up their villages, no power or network yet > 19.8: Power is probably(!) available from now > 21.8: Offical start of the CCCamp19 \o/ > 25.8: Last day of the CCCamp19, start of disassembly in the evening > 28.8: Last day of disassembly, all must be finished no later than this day. If you stay 27th/28th, you are > expected to help out! > > Please see [7] https://events.ccc.de/camp/2019/wiki/Timeline for recent updates. > > [1] https://signup.c3assemblies.de/ > [2] https://tickets.events.ccc.de/camp2019hw/ > [3] https://signup.c3assemblies.de/ > [4] https://tickets.events.ccc.de/camp2019hw/ > [5] https://events.ccc.de/camp/2019/wiki/Form:Village > [6] https://signup.c3assemblies.de/ > [7] https://events.ccc.de/camp/2019/wiki/Timeline > -- - Neels Hofmeyr <nhofmeyr at sysmocom.de> http://www.sysmocom.de/ ======================================================================= * sysmocom - systems for mobile communications GmbH * Alt-Moabit 93 * 10559 Berlin, Germany * Sitz / Registered office: Berlin, HRB 134158 B * Geschäftsführer / Managing Directors: Harald Welte -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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