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Holger Freyther holger at freyther.de> On 7. Apr 2019, at 19:25, Harald Welte <laforge at gnumonks.org> wrote: LaF0rge! thank you for standing up and writing your mail. holger > Dear Mychaela, > > I'm a bit upset by the tone of your message. This mailing list is for > discussing open source mobile communications (specifically, in this case, > on the phone/UE side). Anyone is welcome to share their views, but there > is no competition here. > > I'm very impressed by your achievements with FreeCalypso, and I'm happy > you are participating our discussions here and staying in touch with > Osmocom, as well as helping it along [despite of what I feel is a > somewhat difficult relationship for you]. However, having achieved a lot in > this field yourself doesn't give you the right to intimidate or bully > other members on this mailing list. > > So I would kindly request you to show respect to every hacker who is > working in this field, no matter where they are with their project, > and no matter what their "track record of achievements" may look like > so far. > > Particularly we, the people with lots of experience and achievement in this > field, need to nurture and encourage others, rather than intimidate them. > > I see the following part of your message as problematic: > > On Sat, Apr 06, 2019 at 01:14:55PM -0800, Mychaela Falconia wrote: >> Now please present your story (meaning Craig) - how long have you been >> actively working toward your respective goal? What do you have to >> show so far? >> [...] >> Just trying to see if you have anything real and tangible to show for >> your idea of OBB on MTK, that's all... > > Nobody is accountable to you and has to provide you with a record of > how long they have worked on something or what they have achieved. > > Everyone is welcome and encouraged to share what they're doing, but > that's completely voluntary and up to them to disclose. > > No volunteer working on a FOSS project in their spare time is required > to achieve anything [beyond what they have as goals themselves]. > > Craig has been determined for many years and has been working on this on > and off, as I understand. The mere fact that given such a huge and > difficult task he hasn't given up yet is a very positive surprise :) > > So please let's try to be more positive and encouraging, and help others > trying to venture into the area of reverse engineering cellular baseband > processors. We need more of them, not less :) > > Thanks for your kind understanding. I hope we can avoid any further > discussion on this topic and return to investing all our time into > improving open/free cellular technology. > > Best Regards, > Harald > -- > - Harald Welte <laforge at gnumonks.org> http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ > ============================================================================ > "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." > (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6)