Tone on this mailing list (Re: Free board offer to OBB developer with a CMU200)

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Holger Freyther holger at
Tue Apr 9 10:35:17 UTC 2019

> On 7. Apr 2019, at 19:25, Harald Welte <laforge at> wrote:


thank you for standing up and writing your mail.


> Dear Mychaela,
> I'm a bit upset by the tone of your message.  This mailing list is for
> discussing open source mobile communications (specifically, in this case,
> on the phone/UE side).  Anyone is welcome to share their views, but there
> is no competition here.
> I'm very impressed by your achievements with FreeCalypso, and I'm happy
> you are participating our discussions here and staying in touch with
> Osmocom, as well as helping it along [despite of what I feel is a
> somewhat difficult relationship for you].  However, having achieved a lot in
> this field yourself doesn't give you the right to intimidate or bully
> other members on this mailing list.
> So I would kindly request you to show respect to every hacker who is
> working in this field, no matter where they are with their project,
> and no matter what their "track record of achievements" may look like
> so far.
> Particularly we, the people with lots of experience and achievement in this
> field, need to nurture and encourage others, rather than intimidate them.
> I see the following part of your message as problematic:
> On Sat, Apr 06, 2019 at 01:14:55PM -0800, Mychaela Falconia wrote:
>> Now please present your story (meaning Craig) - how long have you been
>> actively working toward your respective goal?  What do you have to
>> show so far?
>> [...]
>> Just trying to see if you have anything real and tangible to show for
>> your idea of OBB on MTK, that's all...
> Nobody is accountable to you and has to provide you with a record of
> how long they have worked on something or what they have achieved.
> Everyone is welcome and encouraged to share what they're doing, but
> that's completely voluntary and up to them to disclose.
> No volunteer working on a FOSS project in their spare time is required
> to achieve anything [beyond what they have as goals themselves].
> Craig has been determined for many years and has been working on this on
> and off, as I understand.  The mere fact that given such a huge and
> difficult task he hasn't given up yet is a very positive surprise :)
> So please let's try to be more positive and encouraging, and help others
> trying to venture into the area of reverse engineering cellular baseband
> processors.  We need more of them, not less :)
> Thanks for your kind understanding.  I hope we can avoid any further
> discussion on this topic and return to investing all our time into
> improving open/free cellular technology.
> Best Regards,
> 	Harald
> -- 
> - Harald Welte <laforge at> 
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