BS-11 for Sale?! Other Hardware besides NanoBTS?
Hi mates, someone has a Siemens BS-11 for sale or some similar Hardware, compatible with OpenBSC Project?! Thank you for attention Regards Luca
Hi Luca, On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 03:51:36PM +0100, luca bongiorni wrote:
someone has a Siemens BS-11 for sale or some similar Hardware, compatible with OpenBSC Project?!
I think the general sitation is: 1) ip.access nanoBTS is relatively expensive, > 3000 EUR for each new unit 2) BS-11 are all sold out and unlikely to be available anywhere again 3) Ericsson RBS 2308 / 2303 / 2402 seem to appear more or less frequently. However, Ericsson A-bis OML is very different from the ip.access or Siemens OML. Nobody who has one of those RBS has yet been working on writing the required code to implement Ericsson OML on the BSC side. If that is done, OpenBSC should work with Ericsson RBS. 4) HSL GSM picocells are inexpensive, but have not been shipping, and similarly we don't have OpenBSC support yet. However, many organizations want this, so it is likely we will implement it during the next months. So you can either pay a lot of money and have a ready + working solution, or you can spend less money and will have to do some sofrware development yourself. Regards, Harald -- - Harald Welte <laforge@gnumonks.org> http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ ============================================================================ "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6)
Thank you for infos Harald I was already considering to but a TGP2G1 Femtocell Trial Package, but USD 7,200 i think is not so cheap actually. I will try to find some sponsors and hope P.S: What about GSM-R... you know some old devices to work on it?! Kindly regards Luca --- Mar 12/10/10, Harald Welte <laforge@gnumonks.org> ha scritto: Da: Harald Welte <laforge@gnumonks.org> Oggetto: Re: BS-11 for Sale?! Other Hardware besides NanoBTS? A: "luca bongiorni" <bongio87@yahoo.it> Cc: openbsc@lists.gnumonks.org Data: Martedì 12 ottobre 2010, 13:20 Hi Luca, On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 03:51:36PM +0100, luca bongiorni wrote:
someone has a Siemens BS-11 for sale or some similar Hardware, compatible with OpenBSC Project?!
I think the general sitation is: 1) ip.access nanoBTS is relatively expensive, > 3000 EUR for each new unit 2) BS-11 are all sold out and unlikely to be available anywhere again 3) Ericsson RBS 2308 / 2303 / 2402 seem to appear more or less frequently. However, Ericsson A-bis OML is very different from the ip.access or Siemens OML. Nobody who has one of those RBS has yet been working on writing the required code to implement Ericsson OML on the BSC side. If that is done, OpenBSC should work with Ericsson RBS. 4) HSL GSM picocells are inexpensive, but have not been shipping, and similarly we don't have OpenBSC support yet. However, many organizations want this, so it is likely we will implement it during the next months. So you can either pay a lot of money and have a ready + working solution, or you can spend less money and will have to do some sofrware development yourself. Regards, Harald -- - Harald Welte <laforge@gnumonks.org> http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ ============================================================================ "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6)
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 12:29:25PM +0100, luca bongiorni wrote:
I was already considering to but a TGP2G1 Femtocell Trial Package, but USD 7,200 i think is not so cheap actually.
sure, that's a trial package including BSC and two femtocells as well as some other bits. The actuall picocells themselves are much cheaper if you buy them later.
P.S: What about GSM-R... you know some old devices to work on it?!
why old? GSM-R may be old technology but is still in the process of being deployed all over europe (and other countries). GSM-R is 99.9% like GSM, so I would not expect much difficulty modifying OpenBSC to work with a GSM-R BTS (without VGCS/VBCS/NCH/... support, of course). -- - Harald Welte <laforge@gnumonks.org> http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ ============================================================================ "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6)
I perfectly know that is still in deployment in all Europe (in Italy for example a Company, created an analizer starting from an USRP * ) , i wanted only to know if you know some "used", "cheap" hardware like BS-11 to buy and start to work on it. Ex. i saw that this company created many hw about gsm-r... http://www.funkwerk-ec.com/ * WISER, “GRIDES: GSM-R Signal Integrity Detection System” http://tiny.cc/a2yx7 Regards Luca why old? GSM-R may be old technology but is still in the process of being deployed all over europe (and other countries). GSM-R is 99.9% like GSM, so I would not expect much difficulty modifying OpenBSC to work with a GSM-R BTS (without VGCS/VBCS/NCH/... support, of course).
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 02:01:14PM +0100, luca bongiorni wrote:
i wanted only to know if you know some "used", "cheap" hardware like BS-11 to buy and start to work on it.
I think getting GSM-R BTS equipment is more difficult than regular GSM BTS equipment. If you want to play with GSM-R from the network side, your best option might be to implement the NCH and ASCI support inside OpenBTS.
To advise the group, we have a quantity of nanoBTS 1800 GPRS capable units still available. We have sold other to group members and would be happy to email photos and references across. This is more of a helpful hunt than an advert so please feel free to ignore. Kind Regards Stuart On 12 Oct 2010, at 14:49, Harald Welte wrote:
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 02:01:14PM +0100, luca bongiorni wrote:
i wanted only to know if you know some "used", "cheap" hardware like BS-11 to buy and start to work on it.
I think getting GSM-R BTS equipment is more difficult than regular GSM BTS equipment. If you want to play with GSM-R from the network side, your best option might be to implement the NCH and ASCI support inside OpenBTS.
From the telephone side, you can simply use OsmocomBB. It can use a standard GSM handset like the Motorola C123 and talk to GSM-R BTSs. Of course you still need to implement the GSM-R specific features on layer 3 like ASCI.
In both cases I think the hardware is there for whoever has a serious interest in experimenting with this technology, and who is not afraid to implement the GSM-R specific bits.
-- - Harald Welte <laforge@gnumonks.org> http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ ============================================================================ "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6)
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