6 Dec
2012
6 Dec
'12
9:49 a.m.
Dear List
We've just taken delivery of a few more pico cells from our partners (who are moving
everything over to 3g). For sale we now have:
3 x Model 139 (1800 MHz) GPRS
2 x Model 139 (1900 MHz) GPRS
1 x Model 165CU (900 MHz) GPRS / EDGE
We have amplifiers and diversity receiver units for all models as well as external antenna
connection kits for the model 139 (165 has built in SMA connectors). All models available
for Express worldwide delivery within 2 days. Credit / Debit cards accepted.
Kind Regards
Stuart Baggs
Managing Director
BlueWave Communications Ltd
6 Dec
6 Dec
11:48 a.m.
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Hi Stuart,
while so far we have been open to the occasional posting of available
BTSs at this list, I'm not entirely sure if ther recent increas in
frequency of your postings are still appreciated.
As I may be considered partial due to my involvement in sysmocom (who is
bulding + selling sysmoBTS), I would like to hereby solicit comments
from the list subscribers to see if they would like to see this kind of
postings, even if they're as frequent as your recent posts, or if they
prefer to keep this list technical and only see non-commercial offers of
BTS equipment.
Whatever is the result of that feedback we shuold adopt as a list
policy.
Regards,
Harald
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- Harald Welte <laforge(a)gnumonks.org> http://laforge.gnumonks.org/
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11:54 a.m.
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HI Harald
I'll leave it up to list members to decide and of course happy to abide by any
decision.
What ever decision is reached, I'd like to continue technical involvement in the
projects development.
As well as selling the hardware, we're also big advocates of openBSC itself.
With Kindest Regards
Stuart
On 6 Dec 2012, at 10:48, Harald Welte wrote:
Hi Stuart,
while so far we have been open to the occasional posting of available
BTSs at this list, I'm not entirely sure if ther recent increas in
frequency of your postings are still appreciated.
As I may be considered partial due to my involvement in sysmocom (who is
bulding + selling sysmoBTS), I would like to hereby solicit comments
from the list subscribers to see if they would like to see this kind of
postings, even if they're as frequent as your recent posts, or if they
prefer to keep this list technical and only see non-commercial offers of
BTS equipment.
Whatever is the result of that feedback we shuold adopt as a list
policy.
Regards,
Harald
--
- Harald Welte <laforge(a)gnumonks.org> http://laforge.gnumonks.org/
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"Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option."
(ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6)
12:48 p.m.
New subject: Poll: Do list subscribers like to see BTS-for-sale postings?
Harald Welte wrote:
I would like to hereby solicit comments from the list
subscribers
to see if they would like to see this kind of postings, even if
they're as frequent as your recent posts
Since these particular units aren't completely trivial to acquire I
think it's nice to spread information efficiently within the project
when there are opportunities to buy one, both when it's a commercial
offer and when it's a not-for-profit developer offer.
I think it's nice if list subscribers can have some head start before
gear goes onto eBay or other sales channels.
Since it's very low volume posting I'm personally not annoyed, even
if it's as frequent as recently.
There are of course other ways to keep people updated about hardware
availability - one idea would be a wiki page which anyone who is
interested could subscribe to in order to receive updates - off list.
(That shouldn't require a wiki account though. Maybe RSS is a good
solution. And a wiki account would still be needed to post offers,
which means slightly more effort than simply posting an email.)
Very generally speaking I think it's valuable for the project to show
that various companies are not afraid to openly offer both services
and products related to the software.
//Peter
3:38 p.m.
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I would like
to hereby solicit comments from the list subscribers
to see if they would like to see this kind of postings, even if
they're as frequent as your recent posts
Since these particular units aren't completely trivial to acquire I
think it's nice to spread information efficiently within the project
when there are opportunities to buy one, both when it's a commercial
offer and when it's a not-for-profit developer offer. 
11 Dec
11 Dec
3:59 p.m.
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On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 03:38:46PM +0100, Tobias Engel wrote:
I agree with Peter.
As long as the postings don't get too frequent, I am ok with them.
They are not frequent, yes, but in my case I don't like
"advertisements". When I need anything, just go where I can get the
stuff I need.
Probably, we can add some page in the trac with pointers to webpages
of people selling equipment in case people want to acquire anything?
I would like to hereby solicit comments from the list
subscribers
to see if they would like to see this kind of postings, even if
they're as frequent as your recent posts
Since these particular units aren't completely trivial to acquire I
think it's nice to spread information efficiently within the project
when there are opportunities to buy one, both when it's a commercial
offer and when it's a not-for-profit developer offer. 
6 Dec
6 Dec
1:46 p.m.
New subject: Poll: Do list subscribers like to see BTS-for-sale postings?
Hi Stuart and all,
while so far we have been open to the occasional
posting of available
BTSs at this list, I'm not entirely sure if ther recent increas in
frequency of your postings are still appreciated.
Actually I had the same tought this morning when seeing that mail _again_.
And here the "again" part is critical. Although I don't mind the
occasional mail when a source of hard to find items become available,
I think a single mail
is enough. To me it seems pretty clear that you'll have several units
available and that anyone looking for one could contact you, no need
to post each time ... People can contact you in private to ask for
your inventory (or you could just use a dedicated page on your site
for that or whatever to take it off the list).
Now of course this is to be left to appreciations ... if you happen to
have an unlimited supply of 50$ LTE+3G+GSM base stations with full
tech docs, feel free to tell us about it.
Cheers,
Sylvain
7 Dec
7 Dec
11:40 a.m.
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Hi Folks
And here the "again" part is critical.
I do not understand why it is critical. Is there any legal problem with
that?
At least for me i am ok with such offers since it is the only known way
to get my hands on such scarce hardware.
But there is another problem i see. If you buy from the list, there is
no security. You have to trust the seller absolutely. I am a bit scared
to send that much money to a foreign country. No, no, my nanoBTS is
somewhere in germany and i will come personally and pick it up ;-)
regards.
Philipp Maier
12:37 p.m.
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Hi,
legal ? No ... what in my message made you think I was expressing a
legal opinion ?
Harald was asking for the personal opinion of people on the list, I
was just expressing mine and the reason why I felt that way, but it's
obviously all subjective (by pretty much the definition of "personal
opinion").
Cheers,
Sylvain
And here the
"again" part is critical.
I do not understand why it is critical. Is there any legal problem with
that?
2:47 p.m.
New subject: Poll: Do list subscribers like to see BTS-for-sale postings?
Hi Sylvain,
legal ? No ... what in my message made you think I was expressing a
legal opinion ?
As far as i remember, some years ago we were advised not to trade
stuff
here. Thats all i know. I just thought it could be also a leagal issue
in some way.
regards.
Philipp
6 Dec
6 Dec
3:36 p.m.
New subject: Poll: Do list subscribers like to see BTS-for-sale postings?
On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 11:48:00AM +0100, Harald Welte wrote:
As I may be considered partial due to my involvement
in sysmocom (who is
bulding + selling sysmoBTS), I would like to hereby solicit comments
from the list subscribers to see if they would like to see this kind of
postings, even if they're as frequent as your recent posts, or if they
prefer to keep this list technical and only see non-commercial offers of
BTS equipment.
This should be a technical list.
7 Dec
7 Dec
3:58 p.m.
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Personally I'm ok with commercial postings as long as we establish some reasonable
"rate-limit" on them - say no more than 1 in 2 weeks per person/company.
--
best regards,
Max, http://fairwaves.ru
7:34 p.m.
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Hello,
Considering that there were not so many emails regarding sales of
hardware and this kind of hardware is hard to source in normal shops or
even ebay I am OK to receive them.
I remember a few months ago I was waiting for such emails when I wanted
to buy a nanoBTS and nothing...
Regards,
R.
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Peter Stuge -
Stuart Baggs -
Stuart Baggs -
Sylvain Munaut -
Tobias Engel -
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