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Pedro Cabrera pedrocab at gmail.comHi all, I come to all of you as I'm trying to use simtrace to capture the UE-SIM traffic with a 4G+ SIM card, called "next gen SIM card" (the ones with NFC). The only thing I see is the ATR, and the mobile never detects the SIM card. I try also to read the SIM card plugin directly into the SCR3310 card reader, but the reader didn't recognize the SIM card (no led activity). At the beginning I thought this must be a new standard for the NFC/SIM cards, but reading 3GPP TS 31.101 V13.2.0 (2016-06), I understood only Class B and C operating conditions should be supported by 3G MEs (page 10 of the document), and using transmission protocols T=0 and T=1. So looks like nothing has change in the protocols/electrical conditions. I look for 3GPP specs folder searching for something related with this NFC/SIM (http://www.3gpp.org/DynaReport/31-series.htm), but nothing appear. Also searching in google about this simcards I just found Orange document describing the business strategy to use NFC services/wallet; "On February 21st 2011 many of the world’s leading mobile operators (15 in total) including Orange announced their collective commitment to SIM-based mobile NFC and intention to launch commercial mobile NFC services. In November 2011, the Chinese MNOs increased the momentum of support to SIM based NFC. In January, GSMA communicated that more than 60 MNOs now support these initiatives." Source: https://www.orange.com/en/content/download/12418/258640/version/1/file/Orange%2BNFC%2Band%2BOrange%2BMoney%2BFact%2BSheet%2B-%2BFebruary%2B2013.pdf But still didn't found any technical spec for this sim cards. Most strange for me is that plugging this SIM card in an old Samsung Galaxy S3 is working normally, so ask myself why plugging in SCR3310 reader or simtrace is not working. Can anyone help me with this SIM cards specifications? Does anyone been able to read with SIM readers? Best Regards, Pedro -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.osmocom.org/pipermail/simtrace/attachments/20170227/3ff61648/attachment.htm>