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Mychaela Falconia mychaela.falconia at gmail.comHi Harald, > AFAICT there never was any documentation from GRcard, everything had to > be reverse engineered from their proprietary windows programming software. Aha, so instead of docs you got their proprietary sw. I never got the latter, but then I never asked them for it, as I was using the Osmocom wiki page and pySim code as my starting-point sources of knowledge. Now I need to ask Grcard for a copy of the same Winblows sw they gave you, so I can play with it, see what settings it allows to be programmed, and then see what it actually writes to the card. A couple of questions regarding this Grcard programming sw: * Do you know if WinXP is good enough for it, or if it needs something newer? I have an air-gapped WinXP machine which I set up a couple of years ago for similar purpose of knowledge extraction from proprietary sw - in that case the proprietary sw was TI CCS and the knowledge to be extracted was Calypso JTAG. * Does their sw work with USB CCID readers, or does it require a Phoenix-style serial reader instead? In either case, what drivers or other extra gunk does it require besides a bare Windows installation and Grcard sw itself? > When they at some point started to ship cards with pre-installed SIM > toolkit applets that we never ordered, sysmocom ceased all contact > with that supplier. Ouch! How did you discover the presence of those pre-installed STK applets, i.e., what was the visible symptom? Were the cards telling phones to add STK menus? So far I have tried inserting one of the sample cards I got into Mot C139 and Pirelli DP-L10 phones, both running their respective original firmwares, and on neither phone did I see anything STK-originating added to their menu structure. I have not yet tried inserting one of these cards into a board running UI- enabled FreeCalypso fw - I have tested a card in an FCDEV3B and proved it working (AT command modem), but I haven't tried the UI-enabled version yet. M~