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without having to go through the real layer1 or at least without having<br> to go through the air.<br> <br> But without a clear path to later porting this on a real physical<br> layer1, there would be little motivation of doing all that work.<br></block= quote><div><br>I'd like to get involved in that, however these are my p= roblems:<br>- I have no running system that I could debug and <br>=A0 there= by learn how GSM works.<br> -=A0 To=A0 get a running system I would need to implement a software<br>=A0= =A0 only system, however, I cannot implement that without knowledge <br>=A0= =A0 of GSM<br>=A0That is kindof a deadlock. <br><br>Therefore I wonder wea= ther the expert of GSM would share their <br> knowledge in the obove described way:<br>Having=A0 <br>=A0 - a flow diagram= <br>=A0 - the etsi standard pages (or simple rewrites of it)<br>=A0 - the h= tml parsed imlemention of a real TSM30 stack implement.<br>and linking that= all together to get a way for a newbie to <br> get started.<br>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-= left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left= : 1ex;"> <br> I think what makes OsmocomBB special is the very fact that we do not<br> have to rely on simulation, but can do the "real thing".<br> <br> Nonetheleess, if somebody was interested in implementing what I've<br> described, I'd be more than happy to help any such project and<br> include the neccessary support in OpenBSC and/or OsmocomBB.<br> <div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br> --<br> - Harald Welte <<a href=3D"mailto:laforge at gnumonks.org">laforge at gnumonks= .org</a>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 <a href=3D"http://laforge.gnumonks.org/" t= arget=3D"_blank">http://laforge.gnumonks.org/</a><br> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D<br> "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option.&= quot;<br> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6)<br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br> --0016e65ae6825c4265048170c62d--