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Sylvain Munaut 246tnt at gmail.com>> so apdus will be exchanged through the serial link with the phone. >> It may be nice to have a pcsclite driver to drive the sim card in the phone. >> Then we'll be able to use a SIM cards connected to the real phone, or a ccid >> smart card reader connected to the PC running the layer2/layer3, using the >> same API. > > Yes, I like that idea, and we can easily use yet another of our HLDC > data link connections for this. > > However, it seems almost like a bit of over-engineering to me to go a > far as to support PC/SC. Sure, it's a cool hack, and if somebody has > an interest in it and some time to spare. I would do it the other way around. Make sure that all call from layer 3 are in the form of " apdu_xfer(in,out); " Then implementing this apdu_xfer either using : . A HLDC data link to the real phone . A PCSC reader (the api allows for raw apdu exchange very easily) . A bare serial link to one of those cheap card reader . The SIM api directly when running inside the phone. Sylvain