Sniff Code..shown @chao conf.. CCC
squalyl at gmail.com
Sun Jan 23 19:49:01 UTC 2011
the students in his love girl's school.
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Aaron Zauner <azet at azet.org> wrote:
> What poor students are you talking of?
> On 1/23/11, Peter Stuge <peter at stuge.se> wrote:
> > Marten Christophe wrote:
> >> Kindly give me code or even binary file for sniff code which
> >> Sylvain demonstrated in chao meeting,
> > Kindly read
> >> Pls reply
> >> pls help
> >> or pls advise
> >> Kindly reply
> >> pls provide
> > I'm sure you realize that this sounds like a nagging child.
> > I think one can always beenfit from considering the group that one is
> > communicating in. Many quite skilled developers work together in this
> > and most other open source projects, and the way to get things that
> > one wants is never to nag.
> > At best one will be silently ignored, at worst one will get banned.
> > In any case, the impression people will be left with suffers
> > dramatically from any behavior not clearly trying to further the
> > project. I have seen this happen in many projects, and many times I
> > am sure that it is caused mainly by problems in communication, such
> > as language barriers, rhetoric skill, and so on. Other times it is
> > simply because someone is stupid. (I don't know you at all well
> > enough to say if that holds for you, probably not, but your emails
> > may cause people to think so.)
> >> advise me how i can modify existing code up to that level.
> > ..
> >> it will help me allot, my NGO can deploy a pilot project at least
> > I guess you are still working on the idea that developers here fairly
> > clearly judged as not being really worthwhile. And now you plea for
> > people to go out of their way to support it. That demonstrates a lack
> > of understanding for open source projects, where *you* are always
> > responsible for fulfilling *your* needs. Of course you can ask others
> > to do stuff, by politely making suggestions, but you must respect if
> > they have no interest in your ideas.
> > But nothing stops you from moving ahead on your own and proving
> > everyone wrong! In fact that is one great thing about open source.
> > When going against the flow of course you must be prepared to not
> > get much, if any, help.
> > Maybe Sylvain will be interested in licensing some work to your NGO
> > for a pilot project - if so I guess he will get in touch with you -
> > but honestly I doubt that, based on nothing but how you behave on
> > this mailing list. :\
> > Besides the tone in your email you have hijacked the thread about the
> > Osmocom logo request. This suggests unfamiliarity with mailing list
> > etiquette, which also hurts your standing in the project rather
> > severely. One could think this should not be so important, because it
> > is a technicality, but on the other hand we are all technicians, and
> > the technicalities are there for a reason; they allow the most
> > efficient communication. So by not knowing the etiquette you are
> > creating inefficiencies for every mailing list subscriber and for the
> > afterworld (in the archives) which as I am sure you understand is
> > very strongly frowned upon.
> > Perhaps you could benefit from the recently announced TETRA code..
> > http://tetra.osmocom.org/trac/
> > Maybe it fits your application better than plain GSM, as you seem to
> > be on good terms with the regulatory body in your deployment area.
> > Kind regards
> > //Peter
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