From laforge at gnumonks.org Wed Jan 1 18:49:42 2014 From: laforge at gnumonks.org (Harald Welte) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 19:49:42 +0100 Subject: OsmoDevCon 2014 / Date / Venue In-Reply-To: <20131105155825.GK12353@nataraja.gnumonks.org> References: <20131105155825.GK12353@nataraja.gnumonks.org> Message-ID: <20140101184942.GM7022@nataraja.gnumonks.org> Dear all, as the December 31st registration deadline has just passed, I'm happy to announce that all 17 requests for participation have been approved. We are still below the ~20 people limit of the venue. What we now need to do is to fill the schedule with talks / discussions. Please add your suggestions to https://openbsc.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/OsmoDevCon2014 even if it is just a topic you would like to discuss about, and not something that anyone feels compelled to hold a formal presentation about. Looking forward to seeing you in ~ 2 months in Berlin, Harald -- - Harald Welte http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ ============================================================================ "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) From laforge at gnumonks.org Sun Jan 12 18:53:26 2014 From: laforge at gnumonks.org (Harald Welte) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 19:53:26 +0100 Subject: [RFC] [ADMIN] Making lists subscriber-only? Message-ID: <20140112185326.GU23594@nataraja> Dear all, so far the osmocom.org mailing lists have always been in a 'non-members are manually moderated' mode. This has created a lot of work for manual list moderation, where a lot of the messages caught are simply spam, and only the occasional valid message is being received. I'd like to thank the list moderators for taking care of this. However, in more recent discussions, we were considering to move the lists to a completely closed mode, i.e. postings would automatically be rejected from non-members. The automatic response would contain a description of how to subscribe in 'nomail' mode, i.e. to subscribe in a way to be able to post to the list, while still not receiving any incoming traffic. The latter should be fine for occasional posters who don't want the bulk e-mail that goes with a full/regular subscription. Please provide feedback in case you disagree with that change. Unless there is major opposition, we will likely transition to the 'closed' mode within one month. Thanks, Harald -- - Harald Welte http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ ============================================================================ "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 190 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From paolocavallo42 at gmail.com Mon Jan 13 16:31:21 2014 From: paolocavallo42 at gmail.com (Paolo Cavallo) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 17:31:21 +0100 Subject: tetra Digest, Vol 35, Issue 2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <52D414D9.1070305@gmail.com> Il 13/01/2014 12:00, tetra-request at lists.osmocom.org ha scritto: > Send tetra mailing list submissions to > tetra at lists.osmocom.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.osmocom.org/mailman/listinfo/tetra > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > tetra-request at lists.osmocom.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > tetra-owner at lists.osmocom.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of tetra digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. [RFC] [ADMIN] Making lists subscriber-only? (Harald Welte) > > > _______________________________________________ > tetra mailing list > tetra at lists.osmocom.org > https://lists.osmocom.org/mailman/listinfo/tetra OK I fully agree. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kaber at trash.net Sun Jan 12 19:38:55 2014 From: kaber at trash.net (Patrick McHardy) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 19:38:55 +0000 Subject: [RFC] [ADMIN] Making lists subscriber-only? In-Reply-To: <20140112185326.GU23594@nataraja> References: <20140112185326.GU23594@nataraja> Message-ID: <20140112193855.GB13545@macbook.localnet> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 07:53:26PM +0100, Harald Welte wrote: > Dear all, > > so far the osmocom.org mailing lists have always been in a 'non-members > are manually moderated' mode. This has created a lot of work for manual > list moderation, where a lot of the messages caught are simply spam, and > only the occasional valid message is being received. > > I'd like to thank the list moderators for taking care of this. > > However, in more recent discussions, we were considering to move the > lists to a completely closed mode, i.e. postings would automatically be > rejected from non-members. > > The automatic response would contain a description of how to subscribe > in 'nomail' mode, i.e. to subscribe in a way to be able to post to the > list, while still not receiving any incoming traffic. The latter should > be fine for occasional posters who don't want the bulk e-mail that goes > with a full/regular subscription. > > Please provide feedback in case you disagree with that change. Unless > there is major opposition, we will likely transition to the 'closed' > mode within one month. For the dect list I'm all in favour of this. There's very low traffic and almost only spam. Cheers, Patrick From holger at freyther.de Sun Jan 12 19:55:41 2014 From: holger at freyther.de (Holger Hans Peter Freyther) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 20:55:41 +0100 Subject: [RFC] [ADMIN] Making lists subscriber-only? In-Reply-To: <20140112185326.GU23594@nataraja> References: <20140112185326.GU23594@nataraja> Message-ID: <20140112195541.GJ9767@xiaoyu.lan> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 07:53:26PM +0100, Harald Welte wrote: > Dear all, Good Evening, > Please provide feedback in case you disagree with that change. Unless > there is major opposition, we will likely transition to the 'closed' > mode within one month. when I think I make a one time contribution I use the gmane.org service a lot. On some mailinglists the patch/email sent i just dropped and will never arrive at the mailinglist. If we could find a 'closed' but gmane for posting will still work kind of solution that would be super. holger From nikos.balkanas at eyeonix.com Mon Jan 13 10:12:01 2014 From: nikos.balkanas at eyeonix.com (Nikos Balkanas) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:12:01 +0200 Subject: [RFC] [ADMIN] Making lists subscriber-only? In-Reply-To: <20140112185326.GU23594@nataraja> References: <20140112185326.GU23594@nataraja> Message-ID: I, for one, agree totally. Not that i have received *any* spam from this list, but your proposal makes sense. Not that would stop spam, though, they do fake addresses sometimes :-( But because that's how all of the lists, that I know of, work. PS You didn't specify for "personal" feedback, so I am replying to the lists, many of whom I am not a member. Hope it is not considered spam ;-) BR, Nikos On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Harald Welte wrote: > Dear all, > > so far the osmocom.org mailing lists have always been in a 'non-members > are manually moderated' mode. This has created a lot of work for manual > list moderation, where a lot of the messages caught are simply spam, and > only the occasional valid message is being received. > > I'd like to thank the list moderators for taking care of this. > > However, in more recent discussions, we were considering to move the > lists to a completely closed mode, i.e. postings would automatically be > rejected from non-members. > > The automatic response would contain a description of how to subscribe > in 'nomail' mode, i.e. to subscribe in a way to be able to post to the > list, while still not receiving any incoming traffic. The latter should > be fine for occasional posters who don't want the bulk e-mail that goes > with a full/regular subscription. > > Please provide feedback in case you disagree with that change. Unless > there is major opposition, we will likely transition to the 'closed' > mode within one month. > > Thanks, > Harald > > -- > - Harald Welte > http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ > > ============================================================================ > "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." > (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. > A6) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From edoardo.rispoli at gmail.com Mon Jan 13 22:46:47 2014 From: edoardo.rispoli at gmail.com (Edoardo Rispoli) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 23:46:47 +0100 Subject: [RFC] [ADMIN] Making lists subscriber-only? In-Reply-To: <20140112185326.GU23594@nataraja> References: <20140112185326.GU23594@nataraja> Message-ID: ok for the closed mode ! 73 IW3BTI 2014/1/12 Harald Welte > Dear all, > > so far the osmocom.org mailing lists have always been in a 'non-members > are manually moderated' mode. This has created a lot of work for manual > list moderation, where a lot of the messages caught are simply spam, and > only the occasional valid message is being received. > > I'd like to thank the list moderators for taking care of this. > > However, in more recent discussions, we were considering to move the > lists to a completely closed mode, i.e. postings would automatically be > rejected from non-members. > > The automatic response would contain a description of how to subscribe > in 'nomail' mode, i.e. to subscribe in a way to be able to post to the > list, while still not receiving any incoming traffic. The latter should > be fine for occasional posters who don't want the bulk e-mail that goes > with a full/regular subscription. > > Please provide feedback in case you disagree with that change. Unless > there is major opposition, we will likely transition to the 'closed' > mode within one month. > > Thanks, > Harald > > -- > - Harald Welte > http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ > > ============================================================================ > "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." > (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. > A6) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stevie.glass at gmail.com Tue Jan 14 08:21:06 2014 From: stevie.glass at gmail.com (Steve Glass) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 18:21:06 +1000 Subject: [RFC] [ADMIN] Making lists subscriber-only? In-Reply-To: <20140112185326.GU23594@nataraja> References: <20140112185326.GU23594@nataraja> Message-ID: <52D4F372.8010403@gmail.com> Hi Closed lists will just be more efficient. If the bounce message is clear then most genuine contributors will get that and respond appropriately. I've only dealt with one real, actual problem as a moderator and it was purely accidental that the offender wasn't a subscriber and I was able to catch it. We should expect some spammers to join but even this hurdle will eliminate the majority and we can boot any subscribed spammers quite quickly. ATB Stevie From e_tews at seceng.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de Wed Jan 15 08:28:34 2014 From: e_tews at seceng.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (Erik Tews) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 09:28:34 +0100 Subject: [RFC] [ADMIN] Making lists subscriber-only? In-Reply-To: <20140112185326.GU23594@nataraja> References: <20140112185326.GU23594@nataraja> Message-ID: <1389774514.6112.2.camel@lima> Am Sonntag, den 12.01.2014, 19:53 +0100 schrieb Harald Welte: > Dear all, > > so far the osmocom.org mailing lists have always been in a 'non-members > are manually moderated' mode. This has created a lot of work for manual > list moderation, where a lot of the messages caught are simply spam, and > only the occasional valid message is being received. > > I'd like to thank the list moderators for taking care of this. > > However, in more recent discussions, we were considering to move the > lists to a completely closed mode, i.e. postings would automatically be > rejected from non-members. > > The automatic response would contain a description of how to subscribe > in 'nomail' mode, i.e. to subscribe in a way to be able to post to the > list, while still not receiving any incoming traffic. The latter should > be fine for occasional posters who don't want the bulk e-mail that goes > with a full/regular subscription. > > Please provide feedback in case you disagree with that change. Unless > there is major opposition, we will likely transition to the 'closed' > mode within one month. Hi The only disadvantage I can see is, that you cannot simply CC the list, when you get a question to your personal address, that might be interesting for the list. Your mail will still get through, but the next reply will not make it to the list. But that is quiet acceptable, compared to a lot of spam being send to such lists. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: