simtrace Digest, Vol 18, Issue 3

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Stefanos Malliaros stefmalli89 at gmail.com
Thu Oct 18 11:17:47 UTC 2012


Thanks for all the answers. Everything is fine up to now.
May i ask if you know a list of the available apdu commands for SIM and 
USIM?


Thanks

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> From: Stefanos Malliaros <stefmalli89 at gmail.com>
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> Subject: SIMtrace hardware questions
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> Good evening.
>
> I am interested in your SIMtrace hardware board and i would like to ask
> a few questions if possible. ( http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/SIMtrace)
>
> First of all i am interested in sniffing data between both SIM and USIM.
> As a result, i would like to ask if your product fully works with these
> cards and if i will be able to capture all the data between the mobile
> terminal and the (U)SIM. (eg. usim authentication)
>
> Furthermore, i have some queries about the wireshark integration.
> The wireshark intefration supports the GSMTAP protocol. this protocol is
> used in order to parse the data between the SIM card and the mobile
> terminal. Does this protocol also supports parsing data between the USIM
> and the mobile terminal?
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> Thanks
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> Stefanos
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> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 00:47:05 +0200
> From: Kevin Redon <ml at mail.tsaitgaist.info>
> To: simtrace <simtrace at lists.osmocom.org>
> Subject: Re: SIMtrace hardware questions
> Message-ID: <1350513125-sup-6210 at dennou>
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> Hi,
>
> Excerpts from Stefanos Malliaros's message of Wed Oct 17 20:57:58 +0200 2012:
>> Good evening.
>>
>> I am interested in your SIMtrace hardware board and i would like to ask
>> a few questions if possible. ( http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/SIMtrace)
>>
>> First of all i am interested in sniffing data between both SIM and USIM.
>> As a result, i would like to ask if your product fully works with these
>> cards and if i will be able to capture all the data between the mobile
>> terminal and the (U)SIM. (eg. usim authentication)
> Yes, SIMtrace is capable of sniffing the communication between (U)SIM and mobile.
> To be more precise, 2 transmission protocols exist: T=0, and T=1.
> T=0 is the default and most common protocol used. It is fully supported by SIMtrace.
> If the (U)SIM and phone both support T=1, and the (U)SIM prefers T=1 and the phone follows this preference, or the phone wants to use it (because it's faster), then T=1 can be used.
> It is not too different to T=0, but the sniffing and decoding is not implemented in SIMtrace.
> The hardware supports it, but not the software (yet). This is still a todo for the moment, but low priority because rarely used.
> Also there have been some corner cases concerning T=0 with high or curious data rates. This lead to faulty decoding but was fixed for the known cases.
> If you have such a corner case, please tell the mailing list, and it should be fixed.
>
>> Furthermore, i have some queries about the wireshark integration.
>> The wireshark intefration supports the GSMTAP protocol. this protocol is
>> used in order to parse the data between the SIM card and the mobile
>> terminal. Does this protocol also supports parsing data between the USIM
>> and the mobile terminal?
> Only the APDU (messages exchanged using T=0 or T=1) decoding for SIM has been implemented into wireshark.
> Most of the commands in USIM are similar to SIM, but there are some exceptions where the parsing will go wrong (USIM only APDU type, and some commands).
>
> regards,
> kevin
>
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