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Jonathan Thomas lexington1776 at gmail.comMartin, Thank you for your response. It doesn't appear that following those steps fixes what does appear to be a APDU parsing issue. Take a look at this set of APDUs and notice that the last APDU should have been: a0 b2 04 04 26 b2 ff ff but the a0 was appended to the previous line. APDU: (9): a0 a4 00 00 02 7f 20 9f 23 APDU: (42): a0 c0 00 00 23 00 00 00 00 7f 20 02 00 00 00 00 00 16 b3 02 37 04 00 83 8a 83 8a 00 03 00 00 fa b0 00 00 00 00 2f 06 06 90 00 APDU: (9): a0 a4 00 00 02 6f c7 9f 13 APDU: (26): a0 c0 00 00 13 00 00 00 98 6f c7 04 00 11 00 44 01 06 01 26 00 6f 06 04 90 00 APDU: (45): a0 b2 01 04 26 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff 90 00 APDU: (45): a0 b2 02 04 26 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff 90 00 APDU: (45): a0 b2 03 04 26 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff 90 00 a0 APDU: (7): b2 04 04 26 b2 ff ff When you say 'reset' I assume you mean that you physically press the 'Reset' button on the board. Any other helpful hints that might fix/bypass this parsing issue? Thank you, Jonathan On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Martin Paljak <martin at martinpaljak.net> wrote: > Hello, > > Your APDU output is garbage because it seems you have broken your host > side software or reset the board after you powered up your phone. > > I experienced similar issues but it usually worked after fixing a > small apdu parsing bug in simtrace tool after following this: > > 1. phone off > 2. reset simtrace board > 3. start simtrace application > 4. power up phone > > Martin > On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 16:49, Jonathan Thomas <lexington1776 at gmail.com> wrote: >> Harald, >> >> Thank you for your response. I will try and summarize what we are >> seeing based on your questions below. >> >> The word 'freeze' is probably not accurate as the the simtrace >> application is still running/executing without receiving a termination >> signal, etc. What we are experiencing is that the output, both with >> Wireshark and stdout, stops displaying any APDU traffic. >> >> For instance, when I boot up the phone for this first time, the >> simtrace application will appear to work correctly, but at some point >> during the reset it will stop displaying APDU traffic. For instance >> on this run it stops after a response from the SIM: >> >> APDU: (183): 03 00 00 fa b0 00 00 00 2f 06 06 90 00 a0 a4 00 00 02 a4 >> 6f 3a 9f 13 a0 c0 00 00 13 c0 00 00 0d 48 6f 3a 04 00 11 00 22 01 06 >> 01 22 00 6f 06 03 90 00 a0 a4 00 00 02 a4 7f 20 9f 23 a0 c0 00 00 23 >> c0 00 00 00 00 7f 20 02 00 00 00 00 00 16 33 02 37 04 00 83 8a 83 8a >> 00 03 00 00 fa b0 00 00 00 00 2f 06 06 90 00 a0 a4 00 00 02 a4 6f 7e >> 9f 13 a0 c0 00 00 13 c0 00 00 00 0b 6f 7e 04 00 11 00 44 01 06 00 00 >> 00 6f 06 06 90 00 a0 a4 00 00 02 a4 6f 07 9f 13 a0 c0 00 00 13 c0 00 >> 00 00 09 6f 07 04 00 14 00 44 01 06 00 00 00 6f 06 03 90 00 a0 a4 00 >> 00 02 a4 >> APDU: (7): 6f 07 9f 13 a0 c0 00 >> APDU: (7): 00 13 c0 00 00 00 09 >> APDU: (7): 6f 07 04 00 14 00 44 >> APDU: (7): 01 06 00 00 00 6f 06 >> APDU: (7): 03 90 00 a0 a4 00 00 >> APDU: (7): 02 a4 6f 07 9f 13 a0 >> APDU: (199): c0 00 00 13 c0 00 00 09 6f 07 04 00 14 00 44 01 06 00 00 >> 00 6f 06 03 90 00 a0 b0 00 00 09 b0 08 09 10 10 10 32 54 76 98 90 00 >> a0 b0 00 00 09 b0 08 09 10 10 10 32 54 76 98 90 00 a0 a4 00 00 02 a4 >> 6f 78 9f 13 a0 c0 00 00 13 c0 00 00 00 02 6f 78 04 00 14 00 44 01 06 >> 00 00 00 6f 06 05 90 00 a0 b0 00 00 02 b0 00 01 90 00 a0 a4 00 00 02 >> a4 6f 31 9f 13 a0 c0 00 00 13 c0 00 00 00 01 6f 31 04 00 14 00 44 01 >> 06 00 00 00 6f 06 05 90 00 a0 b0 00 00 01 b0 00 90 00 a0 a4 00 00 02 >> a4 6f 30 9f 13 a0 c0 00 00 13 c0 00 00 96 96 6f 30 04 00 11 00 44 01 >> 06 00 00 00 6f 06 04 90 00 a0 b0 00 00 96 b0 ff ff ff ff >> >> After this point it will no longer display (Wireshark or stdout) any >> APDU traffic. The board itself shows no indication that there are any >> issues and the process 'simtrace' is still running. If I restart the >> phone the only APDU I see is the ATR APDU. >> >> If I now stop the simtrace application and restart the application I >> will get the same result on boot up of the phone. If I restart the >> application after the phone has been completely booted then I will see >> the status messages between the phone and the SIM for some period of >> time before that traffic also stops displaying to the screen. >> >> After a while I will see this error from the simtrace application: >> "Error submitting BULK IN urb: No error". >> >> An alternative phone will stop displaying APDUs, but at a different >> location from the first (this doesn't seem to be consistent): >> >> APDU: (7): 32 05 83 02 6f 42 a5 >> APDU: (7): 03 80 01 71 8a 01 05 >> APDU: (7): 8b 03 6f 06 07 80 02 >> APDU: (7): 00 fa 88 00 90 00 00 >> APDU: (7): b2 01 04 32 b2 ff ff >> >> Please let me know if I can clarify/focus these issues. >> >> Thanks, >> Jonathan >> >> On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 6:30 AM, Harald Welte <laforge at gnumonks.org> wrote: >>> Hi Jonathan, >>> >>> sorry to hear you are having trouble. >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 05:10:35PM -0500, Jonathan Thomas wrote: >>> >>>> With testing against all three of the SIMTrace modules we purchased we >>>> have found the trace appears to lock-up or freeze randomly through >>>> processing of the APDUs. >>> >>> Can you please indicate what exactly seems to trigger those freezes? >>> Is there any particular phone model or sim card (or combination >>> thereof)? >>> >>> What can you see on the simtrace UART at the time of the freeze? >>> >>> Does the USB device re-enumerate (USB reset) when you observe the freeze? >>> >>> Does the simtrace program keep running or does it stop? >>> >>> Regards, >>> Harald >>> -- >>> - Harald Welte <laforge at gnumonks.org> http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ >>> ============================================================================ >>> "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." >>> (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. 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