From roger.jardi at urv.cat Tue Dec 11 14:54:52 2012 From: roger.jardi at urv.cat (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Roger_Jardi_Ced=F3=22?=) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 15:54:52 +0100 Subject: sim emulation Message-ID: Dear all, I'am asking how can I emulate a sim/smartcard with my SIMtrace. Could you say to me if I need an extra software or change any jumper etc? I have not found no documentation about that...? Thank you very much. Roger Jard? Personal de Suport a la Recerca Grup de recerca CRISES Departament d'Enginyeria Inform?tica i Matem?tiques Universitat Rovira i Virgili Despatx 132 Av. Pa?sos Catalans 26 43007 TARRAGONA Tel. +34 977 55 82 70 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 246tnt at gmail.com Tue Dec 11 15:47:47 2012 From: 246tnt at gmail.com (Sylvain Munaut) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:47:47 +0100 Subject: sim emulation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > I'am asking how can I emulate a sim/smartcard with my SIMtrace. Could you > say to me if I need an extra software or change any jumper etc? I have not > found no documentation about that... The hardware can do it. But there is no software written for that. Cheers, Sylvain From ml at mail.tsaitgaist.info Tue Dec 11 16:11:23 2012 From: ml at mail.tsaitgaist.info (Kevin Redon) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:11:23 +0100 Subject: sim emulation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1355242053-sup-9216@dennou> Hi, SIM emulation has not been implemented yet. Only siffing is implemented. See http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/SIMtrace/Hardware#Modi You can also find the information in the mailing list archive, but I will additionally write it on the main page so to find it more easily. thanks, kevin Excerpts from Roger Jardi Ced?'s message of Tue Dec 11 15:54:52 +0100 2012: > Dear all, > > I'am asking how can I emulate a sim/smartcard with my SIMtrace. Could you say to me if I need an extra software or change any jumper etc? I have not found no documentation about that...? > > Thank you very much. > > Roger Jard? > > Personal de Suport a la Recerca > Grup de recerca CRISES > Departament d'Enginyeria Inform?tica i Matem?tiques > Universitat Rovira i Virgili > > Despatx 132 > Av. Pa?sos Catalans 26 > 43007 TARRAGONA > > Tel. +34 977 55 82 70 From roger.jardi at urv.cat Sun Dec 16 16:27:47 2012 From: roger.jardi at urv.cat (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Roger_Jardi_Ced=F3=22?=) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 17:27:47 +0100 Subject: usim adapter Message-ID: Dear all, I'm traying to snoop a samsung galaxy s3, but I've noticed this mobile has usim and it is uncompatible withe the PCB SIM adapter. Is there a PCB usim adapter or another kind of adapter permitting connect the SIMtrace device? Thanks in advance!!!! ;) Roger Jard? Personal de Suport a la Recerca Grup de recerca CRISES Departament d'Enginyeria Inform?tica i Matem?tiques Universitat Rovira i Virgili Despatx 132 Av. Pa?sos Catalans 26 43007 TARRAGONA Tel. +34 977 55 82 70 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ml at mail.tsaitgaist.info Sun Dec 16 17:18:57 2012 From: ml at mail.tsaitgaist.info (Kevin Redon) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 18:18:57 +0100 Subject: usim adapter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1355678152-sup-6042@dennou> Hi, USIM is an application running on the UICC, used for UMTS. It is not related to PCB or hardware in general. Could you clarify what you meant? thanks, kevin Excerpts from Roger Jardi Ced?'s message of Sun Dec 16 17:27:47 +0100 2012: > Dear all, > > I'm traying to snoop a samsung galaxy s3, but I've noticed this mobile has usim and it is uncompatible withe the PCB SIM adapter. Is there a PCB usim adapter or another kind of adapter permitting connect the SIMtrace device? > > Thanks in advance!!!! ;) > > Roger Jard? > > Personal de Suport a la Recerca > Grup de recerca CRISES > Departament d'Enginyeria Inform?tica i Matem?tiques > Universitat Rovira i Virgili > > Despatx 132 > Av. Pa?sos Catalans 26 > 43007 TARRAGONA > > Tel. +34 977 55 82 70 From roger.jardi at urv.cat Sun Dec 16 17:48:38 2012 From: roger.jardi at urv.cat (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Roger_Jardi_Ced=F3=22?=) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 18:48:38 +0100 Subject: usim adapter In-Reply-To: <1355678152-sup-6042@dennou> References: <1355678152-sup-6042@dennou> Message-ID: Hi, I'm sorry, maybe I've not explained well. I mean the micro-Sim or ?Sim (15 x 12 cm). Thanks, Roger ----- Missatge original ----- De: Kevin Redon Data: Diumenge, Desembre 16, 2012 18:34 Assumpte: Re: usim adapter Per a: simtrace > Hi, > > USIM is an application running on the UICC, used for UMTS. > It is not related to PCB or hardware in general. > Could you clarify what you meant? > > thanks, > kevin > > Excerpts from Roger Jardi Ced?'s message of Sun Dec 16 17:27:47 > +0100 2012: > > Dear all, > > > > I'm traying to snoop a samsung galaxy s3, but I've noticed > this mobile has usim and it is uncompatible withe the PCB SIM > adapter. Is there a PCB usim adapter or another kind of adapter > permitting connect the SIMtrace device? > > > > Thanks in advance!!!! ;) > > > > Roger Jard? > > > > Personal de Suport a la Recerca > > Grup de recerca CRISES > > Departament d'Enginyeria Inform?tica i Matem?tiques > > Universitat Rovira i Virgili > > > > Despatx 132 > > Av. Pa?sos Catalans 26 > > 43007 TARRAGONA > > > > Tel. +34 977 55 82 70 > Roger Jard? Personal de Suport a la Recerca Grup de recerca CRISES Departament d'Enginyeria Inform?tica i Matem?tiques Universitat Rovira i Virgili Despatx 132 Av. Pa?sos Catalans 26 43007 TARRAGONA Tel. +34 977 55 82 70 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ml at mail.tsaitgaist.info Sun Dec 16 18:40:12 2012 From: ml at mail.tsaitgaist.info (Kevin Redon) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 19:40:12 +0100 Subject: usim adapter In-Reply-To: References: <1355678152-sup-6042@dennou> Message-ID: <1355682506-sup-7999@dennou> ah, now I get it. sadly no micro-SIM (actually called Mini-UICC is the specs) cable is provided with SIMtrace. I drawn then, but the production costs are to high yet. The simpler solution would be to cut the current SIM (called Plug-in UICC) cable so it fits on the slot. Or you could buy an adapter. look for "dual sim to micro sim adapter". good luck, kevin Excerpts from Roger Jardi Ced?'s message of Sun Dec 16 18:48:38 +0100 2012: > Hi, > I'm sorry, maybe I've not explained well. I mean the micro-Sim or ?Sim (15 x 12 cm). > > Thanks, > > Roger > From roger.jardi at urv.cat Sun Dec 16 23:11:11 2012 From: roger.jardi at urv.cat (=?utf-8?B?Um9nZXIgSmFyZMOt?=) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 00:11:11 +0100 Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IHVzaW0gYWRhcHRlcg==?= Message-ID: Ok, thank you for this information! I will look for a dual sim to micro sim adapter. Thank you! Roger. ----- Reply message ----- De: "Kevin Redon" Fecha: dom., dic. 16, 2012 19:40 Asunto: usim adapter Para: "simtrace" ah, now I get it. sadly no micro-SIM (actually called Mini-UICC is the specs) cable is provided with SIMtrace. I drawn then, but the production costs are to high yet. The simpler solution would be to cut the current SIM (called Plug-in UICC) cable so it fits on the slot. Or you could buy an adapter. look for "dual sim to micro sim adapter". good luck, kevin Excerpts from Roger Jardi Ced?'s message of Sun Dec 16 18:48:38 +0100 2012: > Hi, > I'm sorry, maybe I've not explained well. I mean the micro-Sim or ?Sim (15 x 12 cm). > > Thanks, > > Roger > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hugofredericosoares at gmail.com Thu Dec 20 13:38:36 2012 From: hugofredericosoares at gmail.com (Hugo Soares) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 10:38:36 -0300 Subject: Windows usage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: +Francisco and Herbert from my team. 2012/12/20 Hugo Soares > Hi guys, > > I'm thinking of making an application on top of simtrace, but my focus > would be on Windows users. I'd like to know if the application runs ok on > Windows systems. > > > -- > Atenciosamente, > Hugo Frederico Soares > -- Atenciosamente, Hugo Frederico Soares -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From holger at freyther.de Thu Dec 20 16:48:11 2012 From: holger at freyther.de (Holger Hans Peter Freyther) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 17:48:11 +0100 Subject: Windows usage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20121220164811.GB30327@xiaoyu.lan> On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 10:38:36AM -0300, Hugo Soares wrote: Hi, I didn't see the initial mail. > > I'm thinking of making an application on top of simtrace, but my focus > > would be on Windows users. I'd like to know if the application runs ok on > > Windows systems. Windows has not been a priority. I once created a very simple GUI for SIMtrace (providing the dump and status about the device) using Qt. The biggest issue for Windows will be the socket code, we don't have WSA2 support in libosmocore. Currently the easiest would be to use cygwin when using the simtrace application on windows. holger From hugofredericosoares at gmail.com Thu Dec 20 18:04:37 2012 From: hugofredericosoares at gmail.com (Hugo Soares) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 15:04:37 -0300 Subject: Windows usage In-Reply-To: <20121220164811.GB30327@xiaoyu.lan> References: <20121220164811.GB30327@xiaoyu.lan> Message-ID: Thank you for your reply, that was the first email :) Ok. We'll try linking the app with cygwin1.dll. You said the biggest issue would be WSA2, but I see you use libusb. Do you know if we are going to have problems with hardware detection/communication (SIMTrace board) under Windows? 2012/12/20 Holger Hans Peter Freyther > On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 10:38:36AM -0300, Hugo Soares wrote: > > Hi, > > I didn't see the initial mail. > > > > I'm thinking of making an application on top of simtrace, but my focus > > > would be on Windows users. I'd like to know if the application runs ok > on > > > Windows systems. > > Windows has not been a priority. I once created a very simple GUI for > SIMtrace (providing the dump and status about the device) using Qt. The > biggest issue for Windows will be the socket code, we don't have WSA2 > support in libosmocore. Currently the easiest would be to use cygwin when > using the simtrace application on windows. > > holger > -- Atenciosamente, Hugo Frederico Soares -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From peter at stuge.se Thu Dec 20 19:10:54 2012 From: peter at stuge.se (Peter Stuge) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 20:10:54 +0100 Subject: Windows usage In-Reply-To: References: <20121220164811.GB30327@xiaoyu.lan> Message-ID: <20121220191054.3843.qmail@stuge.se> Hi Hugo, Hugo Soares wrote: > Thank you for your reply, that was the first email :) > > Ok. We'll try linking the app with cygwin1.dll. Please make sure to build the entire application within the cygwin environment, ie. using the cygwin compiler. > You said the biggest issue would be WSA2, but I see you use libusb. > Do you know if we are going to have problems with hardware > detection/communication (SIMTrace board) under Windows? I don't think you will have problems, libusb-1.0 works on Windows as long as you make sure to: 1. Use the WinUSB.sys kernel driver from Microsoft for the device 2. Build and use libusb-1.0.dll from http://git.libusb.org/libusb.git rather than another version of the code Please let me (or Trac at https://libusb.org/ ) know if there are some issues. libusb-1.0 should work fine for SIMtrace on Windows, both in and out of cygwin. Note that cygwin might or might not be very up to date with the libusb source code. I would suggest not to bother with testing it, and go straight for building the libusb.git source. //Peter From hugofredericosoares at gmail.com Thu Dec 20 19:20:12 2012 From: hugofredericosoares at gmail.com (Hugo Soares) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 16:20:12 -0300 Subject: Windows usage In-Reply-To: <20121220191054.3843.qmail@stuge.se> References: <20121220164811.GB30327@xiaoyu.lan> <20121220191054.3843.qmail@stuge.se> Message-ID: Hummm... I was thinking about compiling the application with MinGW and link it with cygwin and with whichever dll SIMTrace would need. At this point we think it would be best if the user didn't have to install cygwin, he'd only have to install our app which would include cygs dlls. Do you think that this wouldn't suffice? Anyways, we can try both approaches, but it would be great if we could spare the effort. Thanks! 2012/12/20 Peter Stuge > Hi Hugo, > > Hugo Soares wrote: > > Thank you for your reply, that was the first email :) > > > > Ok. We'll try linking the app with cygwin1.dll. > > Please make sure to build the entire application within the cygwin > environment, ie. using the cygwin compiler. > > > > You said the biggest issue would be WSA2, but I see you use libusb. > > Do you know if we are going to have problems with hardware > > detection/communication (SIMTrace board) under Windows? > > I don't think you will have problems, libusb-1.0 works on Windows as > long as you make sure to: > > 1. Use the WinUSB.sys kernel driver from Microsoft for the device > > 2. Build and use libusb-1.0.dll from http://git.libusb.org/libusb.git > rather than another version of the code > > Please let me (or Trac at https://libusb.org/ ) know if there are > some issues. libusb-1.0 should work fine for SIMtrace on Windows, > both in and out of cygwin. > > Note that cygwin might or might not be very up to date with the > libusb source code. I would suggest not to bother with testing it, > and go straight for building the libusb.git source. > > > //Peter > -- Atenciosamente, Hugo Frederico Soares -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From peter at stuge.se Fri Dec 21 03:17:08 2012 From: peter at stuge.se (Peter Stuge) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 04:17:08 +0100 Subject: Windows usage In-Reply-To: References: <20121220164811.GB30327@xiaoyu.lan> <20121220191054.3843.qmail@stuge.se> Message-ID: <20121221031708.18637.qmail@stuge.se> Hugo Soares wrote: > Hummm... > I was thinking about compiling the application with MinGW and link it with > cygwin and with whichever dll SIMTrace would need. At this point we think > it would be best if the user didn't have to install cygwin, he'd only have > to install our app which would include cygs dlls. You have to install Cygwin to build the application, your user only needs the DLL, as always with Cygwin. > Do you think that this wouldn't suffice? Avoid mixing MinGW with Cygwin. MinGW is Windows, Cygwin is *not* Windows, and they don't mix so great. //Peter From hugofredericosoares at gmail.com Thu Dec 20 13:18:50 2012 From: hugofredericosoares at gmail.com (Hugo Soares) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 10:18:50 -0300 Subject: Windows usage Message-ID: Hi guys, I'm thinking of making an application on top of simtrace, but my focus would be on Windows users. I'd like to know if the application runs ok on Windows systems. -- Atenciosamente, Hugo Frederico Soares -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hugofredericosoares at gmail.com Fri Dec 21 13:08:14 2012 From: hugofredericosoares at gmail.com (Hugo Soares) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:08:14 -0300 Subject: Windows usage In-Reply-To: <20121221031708.18637.qmail@stuge.se> References: <20121220164811.GB30327@xiaoyu.lan> <20121220191054.3843.qmail@stuge.se> <20121221031708.18637.qmail@stuge.se> Message-ID: Oh, ok! Great news! Thanks a lot for the help! Will post back to let you know the results. Thank you! 2012/12/21 Peter Stuge > Hugo Soares wrote: > > Hummm... > > I was thinking about compiling the application with MinGW and link it > with > > cygwin and with whichever dll SIMTrace would need. At this point we think > > it would be best if the user didn't have to install cygwin, he'd only > have > > to install our app which would include cygs dlls. > > You have to install Cygwin to build the application, your user only > needs the DLL, as always with Cygwin. > > > > Do you think that this wouldn't suffice? > > Avoid mixing MinGW with Cygwin. MinGW is Windows, Cygwin is *not* > Windows, and they don't mix so great. > > > //Peter > -- Atenciosamente, Hugo Frederico Soares -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: