From lynxis at fe80.eu  Thu Jun 13 21:43:11 2019
From: lynxis at fe80.eu (Alexander Couzens)
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2019 23:43:11 +0200
Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] Camp Village (Singularity City)
Message-ID: <20190613234045.4d4ffd11@lazus.yip>

Hi,


the Singularity City is a village [1] at the camp.
The POC is also part of the village. I would like to join the
the village (as GSM Team) as well as with my tent.
The Singularity City is also organising infrastructur for the village
including kitchen, fridge, power distribution, [...]. The website
contains also further information [1].

The question is do we want to join the team and setup there a GSM tent?

How many of us will be there with a tent?

reneger from the POC asked me if we could provide this information
until Tuesday 18. Juni.


best,
lynxis

[0] https://signup.c3assemblies.de/assembly/6e6d1392-d5e3-4b63-bb8b-75b025cd9b06
[1] https://singularitycity.de/

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From laforge at gnumonks.org  Fri Jun 21 16:54:04 2019
From: laforge at gnumonks.org (Harald Welte)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2019 18:54:04 +0200
Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] Osmocom Village at CCC Camp 2019
Message-ID: <20190621165404.GU25425@nataraja>

Dear all,

I've been asked by a number of pepole about a possible Osmocom village at the
CCC Camp 2019.  I personally didn't really have any plans, but given related
e-mails and "encouragement" I went ahead and registered an "Osmocom Village",
see
	https://signup.c3assemblies.de/assembly/3b8f7aa2-95d5-4c44-aadc-de8f2680e9c3

I also created a wiki page (as nobody else did, despite earlier discussion on IRC,
SCNR) for coordinating related efforts at
	https://osmocom.org/projects/osmo-dev-con/wiki/CCC_Camp_2019

One of the bigger questions is about having a tent as well as some tables/benches
to sit on and work.  The Camp orga team nas been negotiating rates with a tent
rental company, but to be honest I'm rather surprised by the extremely steep
pricing.  The smallest possible tent (6m x 3m) would cost 825 EUR.  I'm not
sure we want to raise that amount of money?  Even if we'd be 10 people sharing
it, its still 82.50 EUR per person.  And that excludes any tables/chairs.

I'm attaching the relevant parts of a mail from the assemblies orga team FYI.

Please note there also is some kind of fragmentation / overlap with the
team planning to run the GSM/3G networks at the camp, see Lynxis'
related post at
https://lists.osmocom.org/mailman/private/osmocom-event-orga/2019-June/000362.html

It's questionable whether it makes sense to have tow distinct
'villages', but given that e.g. I don't know anyone of that singularity
city, I'm not sure if we'd either be welcome there, nor whether we'd
want to associate us with them?  Also, while the GSM network operation
for sure has good reasons to mingle with the POC and whatever facilities
they have, I'm not sure if the wider Osmocom community attendees
unrelated to the GSM network operation wouldn't just be a
disturbance/nuisance.

In the end, to be honest, I personally do not feel I have the time and
mental capacity to take on any additional tasks in terms of organizing
anything.  I just created the entry in c3assemblies as I was asked to,
and I similarly created the related mailing list and wiki page.

So please, anyone interested in making an Osmocom village happen one way
or another, step up [and continue this discussion on the
camp2019-village at lists.osmocom.org mailing list, without crossposting
everywhere else :)

Regards,
	Harald
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Ticket sale is over. There are no more tickets available. There will be no ticket sale on site. That means
you should know how many will join your village. In the next days we start planning the placing of the
assemblies, we need your help.

Please update your village registration at [3] https://signup.c3assemblies.de/ with the number of people
who will join, extra space you require, power requirements, and such. Please write all information to be
considered in the village registration form.

There have been some frequently asked questions in the last weeks. So we want to address some topics here:

Tents/Tables/Benches/Construction Wood:
Prebuilt tents, tables, benches and wood can be borrowed or bought via the presale system: [4]
https://tickets.events.ccc.de/camp2019hw/. For now there are only tents because we need to order them
soon. The rest will follow and can be bought with the same voucher. You will recieve a voucher with this
email (see below). The earlier you order your stuff, the more likely we can provide what you want.
Especially tents might be in short supply. Please remember bringing cash for the mandatory deposit of ?
100,- for renting tables and benches.

Water:
We want to remind you, if you bring cooking equipment, there will be no direct fresh water and waste water
supply for your kitchen. We will have some central places with fresh water supply and where you can wash
your kitchen utensiles and dishes.

Power:
Power will be generated from diesel with power generators. All engergy you'll use will have to be
generated. Think about our environment and use as little power as possible. For that reason, there is no
possibility to fulfill high power demands for pizza ovens, saunas and alike. If you need cooling for your
food supplies, please think about your refrigeration requirements. Less is more. And please bring enough
outdoor and rain proof extension cables to connect your tents and equipment.

Fire:
Open wood or coal fire is not allowed at any time. That applies for anything that needs heat for kitchen
usage. If you need heat, please bring your own safe gas-based camping heaters.

Waste:
Of course there will be containers for waste, paper and glass on the camp site. But the camp tries to be
as sustainable and ecological as possible. So please consider bringing reusable dishes and cutlery. Also
think about bringing a refillable water bottle for this is the more ecological alternative to bottled
water. The tap water is perfectly drinkable.

Wiki:
There will be no automatic transfer of your data from the village registration tool to the wiki. Please
create your own Wiki page using the form at [5] https://events.ccc.de/camp/2019/wiki/Form:Village if you
want your village appear in the wiki. Please be aware that the only valid place for village registration
is [6] https://signup.c3assemblies.de/

Timeline:
14.8: Buildup: Only for angels who help with buildup and registered at the orga- or angelsystem with their dates
16.8: People can start to build up their villages, no power or network yet
19.8: Power is probably(!) available from now
21.8: Offical start of the CCCamp19 \o/
25.8: Last day of the CCCamp19, start of disassembly in the evening
28.8: Last day of disassembly, all must be finished no later than this day. If you stay 27th/28th, you are
expected to help out!

Please see [7] https://events.ccc.de/camp/2019/wiki/Timeline for recent updates.

[1] https://signup.c3assemblies.de/
[2] https://tickets.events.ccc.de/camp2019hw/
[3] https://signup.c3assemblies.de/
[4] https://tickets.events.ccc.de/camp2019hw/
[5] https://events.ccc.de/camp/2019/wiki/Form:Village
[6] https://signup.c3assemblies.de/
[7] https://events.ccc.de/camp/2019/wiki/Timeline