From lynxis at fe80.eu Tue Dec 5 12:52:11 2017 From: lynxis at fe80.eu (Alexander Couzens) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 13:52:11 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] 34c3 congress gsm network / AfRA 9.12. 14:00 Message-ID: <20171205135130.378d3458@lazus.yip> There is good news everybody. We manage to get a UMTS license in the 850 band (5mhz, 5watt)! We don't have a GSM license yet, but it looks good. About simcards: We haven't ordered any and sold our remaining congress cards last year. I would like invite everybody who is interested in building the network for this year to come to the AfRA [0] at 9.12. Saturday 14:00 in Berlin. The plan is to prepare the congress installation. As you might now, osmocom moved to a new architecture. The nitb is gone now. And we will have 3G for the first time. I will also bring a sysmobts for testing as well a femtocell. Best, lynxis [0] http://afra-berlin.de/ PS. I will be there until night. Best way to reach me is over the #afra or #osmocom channel on freenode or via phone. -- Alexander Couzens mail: lynxis at fe80.eu jabber: lynxis at fe80.eu mobile: +4915123277221 gpg: 390D CF78 8BF9 AA50 4F8F F1E2 C29E 9DA6 A0DF 8604 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From peter at stuge.se Tue Dec 5 15:57:51 2017 From: peter at stuge.se (Peter Stuge) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 15:57:51 +0000 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] 34c3 congress gsm network / AfRA 9.12. 14:00 In-Reply-To: <20171205135130.378d3458@lazus.yip> References: <20171205135130.378d3458@lazus.yip> Message-ID: <20171205155751.GB4167@stuge.se> Hi all, Alexander Couzens wrote: > There is good news everybody. > > We manage to get a UMTS license in the 850 band (5mhz, 5watt)! > We don't have a GSM license yet, but it looks good. Well done! How many people are interested in helping out with operations? I'm asking to understand the need for a dedicated GSM room. Costs are quite high in Leipzig, and I don't know if we strictly require a room? If as last year pretty much only Alexander is doing actual operations, then I find it difficult to justify a GSM room. What are your thoughts? > I would like invite everybody who is interested in building the > network for this year to come to the AfRA [0] at 9.12. Saturday 14:00 > in Berlin. > > The plan is to prepare the congress installation. Cool! See you there everyone. //Peter From ml at mail.tsaitgaist.info Tue Dec 5 17:13:10 2017 From: ml at mail.tsaitgaist.info (=?iso-8859-1?Q?K=E9vin?= Redon) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 18:13:10 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] 34c3 congress gsm network / AfRA 9.12. 14:00 In-Reply-To: <20171205135130.378d3458@lazus.yip> References: <20171205135130.378d3458@lazus.yip> Message-ID: <20171205171310.GA1972@coil> On Tue, Dec 05, 2017 at 01:52:11PM +0100, Alexander Couzens wrote: > We manage to get a UMTS license in the 850 band (5mhz, 5watt)! > We don't have a GSM license yet, but it looks good. thanks for organizing ti > > About simcards: We haven't ordered any and sold our remaining congress > cards last year. Maybe it's a bit late to order SIM cards but if you still intend to do it I'm happy to quickly make the artwork for it. > > I would like invite everybody who is interested in building the > network for this year to come to the AfRA [0] at 9.12. Saturday 14:00 in > Berlin. I am interested in helping out and will drop by then. From nhofmeyr at sysmocom.de Tue Dec 5 21:49:35 2017 From: nhofmeyr at sysmocom.de (Neels Hofmeyr) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 22:49:35 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] 34c3 congress gsm network / AfRA 9.12. 14:00 In-Reply-To: <20171205155751.GB4167@stuge.se> References: <20171205135130.378d3458@lazus.yip> <20171205155751.GB4167@stuge.se> Message-ID: <20171205214935.ap4rgjbbcg27zooo@my.box> On Tue, Dec 05, 2017 at 03:57:51PM +0000, Peter Stuge wrote: > Hi all, > > Alexander Couzens wrote: > > There is good news everybody. > > > > We manage to get a UMTS license in the 850 band (5mhz, 5watt)! > > We don't have a GSM license yet, but it looks good. > > How many people are interested in helping out with operations? I'll have one or two kids with me this time but I'm planning to be available for GSM/UMTS. > I'm asking to understand the need for a dedicated GSM room. Costs are > quite high in Leipzig, and I don't know if we strictly require a room? Hmm, the room costs extra, eh. It is nice to have a base to go back to, to leave stuff and meet, but it also tends to be secluded from the congress. I guess I'd "camp" with the coffee nerds if we won't have a dedicated room. But It's hard to say without knowing the new venue. Will it be humungous halls with deafening noise, and having a GSM room would be the only refuge from the madness? How expensive is "quite high"? Are we paying ourselves, or are we straining the budget of the congress at large? I mean, if it's not astronomic, I could well afford to forge out some bucks for a room... > If as last year pretty much only Alexander is doing actual operations, > then I find it difficult to justify a GSM room. Don't forget K?vin :) ~N -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm checking if I can get at least white / unprinted (but provisioned) cards still before christmas, but even there I'm not very optimistic. > > I would like invite everybody who is interested in building the > > network for this year to come to the AfRA [0] at 9.12. Saturday 14:00 in > > Berlin. > > I am interested in helping out and will drop by then. I don't want to make promises, but I'll try to be around for questions. In the worst case, I'll make sure you can reach me on jabber/irc/phone during that time. -- - Harald Welte http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ ============================================================================ "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) From laforge at gnumonks.org Wed Dec 6 12:11:07 2017 From: laforge at gnumonks.org (Harald Welte) Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2017 13:11:07 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] 34c3 congress gsm network / AfRA 9.12. 14:00 In-Reply-To: <20171205135130.378d3458@lazus.yip> References: <20171205135130.378d3458@lazus.yip> Message-ID: <20171206121107.GH9908@nataraja> On Tue, Dec 05, 2017 at 01:52:11PM +0100, Alexander Couzens wrote: > We manage to get a UMTS license in the 850 band (5mhz, 5watt)! The plan here is to deploy an experimental 3G/3.5G network by using a number of nano3G femtocells to get some idea how well the Osmocom stack can deal at all in such situations. There are many unknowns, as the Osmocom 3G stack and a setup with nano3G has never been used [to our knowledge] in such as setting. So at this point we cannot assume more than that it will crash, and give us lots of bugs to find in our code. > We don't have a GSM license yet, but it looks good. It appears there will be 3 ARFCN in the 1800 MHz band we can use. But only those three, not more. The license still has to be issued, but the primary licensee (operator) has apparently confirmed we can use those three. -- - Harald Welte http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ ============================================================================ "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) From laforge at gnumonks.org Thu Dec 7 10:57:08 2017 From: laforge at gnumonks.org (Harald Welte) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2017 11:57:08 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] SIM cards for 34C3 In-Reply-To: <20171206120637.GG9908@nataraja> References: <20171205135130.378d3458@lazus.yip> <20171205171310.GA1972@coil> <20171206120637.GG9908@nataraja> Message-ID: <20171207105708.GF5967@nataraja> Hi all, On Wed, Dec 06, 2017 at 01:06:37PM +0100, Harald Welte wrote: > I'm checking if I can get at least white / unprinted (but provisioned) > cards still before christmas, but even there I'm not very optimistic. I managed to get confirmation that the contract manufacturer will be able to produce + provision + laser-engrave (IMSI/PIN1/PUK1) 5000 white non-printed sysmoUSIM-SJS1 and ship them to sysmocom ahead of christmas. So if that all works out, we should have 5k white SIM cards at 34C3. The cards will have the same OS, profile and imsi range as the previous cards, just there won't be any fancy printing/artwork on the outside. Regards, Harald -- - Harald Welte http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ ============================================================================ "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) From alexander.chemeris at gmail.com Thu Dec 7 11:20:43 2017 From: alexander.chemeris at gmail.com (Alexander Chemeris) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2017 11:20:43 +0000 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] SIM cards for 34C3 In-Reply-To: <20171207105708.GF5967@nataraja> References: <20171205135130.378d3458@lazus.yip> <20171205171310.GA1972@coil> <20171206120637.GG9908@nataraja> <20171207105708.GF5967@nataraja> Message-ID: Hi Harald, We have around 1,000 programmable SIM cards in our European office. Let me know if that would be helpful for the installation Please excuse typos. Written with a touchscreen keyboard. -- Regards, Alexander Chemeris CTO/Founder Fairwaves, Inc. https://fairwaves.co On Dec 7, 2017 11:00 AM, "Harald Welte" wrote: > Hi all, > > On Wed, Dec 06, 2017 at 01:06:37PM +0100, Harald Welte wrote: > > I'm checking if I can get at least white / unprinted (but provisioned) > > cards still before christmas, but even there I'm not very optimistic. > > I managed to get confirmation that the contract manufacturer will be able > to > produce + provision + laser-engrave (IMSI/PIN1/PUK1) 5000 white non-printed > sysmoUSIM-SJS1 and ship them to sysmocom ahead of christmas. > > So if that all works out, we should have 5k white SIM cards at 34C3. The > cards will have the same OS, profile and imsi range as the previous > cards, just there won't be any fancy printing/artwork on the outside. > > Regards, > Harald > > -- > - Harald Welte > http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ > ============================================================ > ================ > "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." > (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. > A6) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nhofmeyr at sysmocom.de Thu Dec 7 12:55:57 2017 From: nhofmeyr at sysmocom.de (Neels Hofmeyr) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2017 13:55:57 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] SIM cards for 34C3 In-Reply-To: <20171207105708.GF5967@nataraja> References: <20171205135130.378d3458@lazus.yip> <20171205171310.GA1972@coil> <20171206120637.GG9908@nataraja> <20171207105708.GF5967@nataraja> Message-ID: <20171207125557.koqm67besp53pftv@my.box> On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 11:57:08AM +0100, Harald Welte wrote: > I managed to get confirmation that the contract manufacturer will be able to > produce + provision + laser-engrave (IMSI/PIN1/PUK1) 5000 white non-printed > sysmoUSIM-SJS1 and ship them to sysmocom ahead of christmas. nice!! ~N -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: not available URL: From peter at stuge.se Thu Dec 7 19:19:10 2017 From: peter at stuge.se (Peter Stuge) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2017 19:19:10 +0000 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] 34c3 congress gsm network / AfRA 9.12. 14:00 In-Reply-To: <20171205214935.ap4rgjbbcg27zooo@my.box> References: <20171205135130.378d3458@lazus.yip> <20171205155751.GB4167@stuge.se> <20171205214935.ap4rgjbbcg27zooo@my.box> Message-ID: <20171207191910.GF4167@stuge.se> Hi all, Good news all around! UMTS spectrum, SIM cards, and we have a room. I was considering trying to operate a Nokia Flexi BTS, but the FRGP RRU seems to be only for 2100 MHz, so no go. Neels Hofmeyr wrote: > > I'm asking to understand the need for a dedicated GSM room. Costs are > > quite high in Leipzig, and I don't know if we strictly require a room? .. > Will it be humungous halls Yes, exactly. > with deafening noise, and having a GSM room would be the only refuge > from the madness? I don't know - maybe. > How expensive is "quite high"? Are we paying ourselves, or are we > straining the budget of the congress at large? We're not paying ourselves. But we now have a room allocated, with some 8-10 tables for ~20 seats. It will quite likely be in CCL, away from the exhibition halls with assembly and lectures. The smallest lecture room (~1100 pax) is also in CCL. (Congress Center Leipzig) > > If as last year pretty much only Alexander is doing actual operations, > > then I find it difficult to justify a GSM room. > > Don't forget K?vin :) Very true - I'm sorry about that! :( //Peter From ralph at schmid.xxx Fri Dec 8 08:08:28 2017 From: ralph at schmid.xxx (Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2017 09:08:28 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] 34c3 congress gsm network / AfRA 9.12. 14:00 In-Reply-To: <20171206121107.GH9908@nataraja> References: <20171205135130.378d3458@lazus.yip> <20171206121107.GH9908@nataraja> Message-ID: <02d501d36ffb$bb50de70$31f29b50$@schmid.xxx> Hi, > It appears there will be 3 ARFCN in the 1800 MHz band we can use. But only > those three, not more. The license still has to be issued, but the primary > licensee (operator) has apparently confirmed we can use those three. Is there a good contact to them? I got my test license revoked when the spectrum was sold, but a request to the new owner kept unanswered :( For now I am testing on 860 MHz ISM bands, for private use this is quite fine to me, but not for public presentations. The UMTS 850 assignment shows that the BNetzA appears being open for unusual assignments... > -- > - Harald Welte http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ Ralph. -- Ralph A. Schmid Mondstr. 10 90762 F?rth +49-171-3631223 ralph at schmid.xxx http://www.bclog.de/ From peter at stuge.se Fri Dec 8 16:26:12 2017 From: peter at stuge.se (Peter Stuge) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2017 16:26:12 +0000 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] 34c3 congress gsm network / AfRA 9.12. 14:00 In-Reply-To: <02d501d36ffb$bb50de70$31f29b50$@schmid.xxx> References: <20171205135130.378d3458@lazus.yip> <20171206121107.GH9908@nataraja> <02d501d36ffb$bb50de70$31f29b50$@schmid.xxx> Message-ID: <20171208162612.GG4167@stuge.se> Hi, Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras wrote: > > It appears there will be 3 ARFCN in the 1800 MHz band we can use. > > But only those three, not more. The license still has to be issued, > > but the primary licensee (operator) has apparently confirmed we can > > use those three. > > Is there a good contact to them? No. The only connection is AFAIK over quite many hops - and to be honest I am quite surprised (but happy!) whenever it is possible for the event to use any licensed spectrum at all, considering how involved that is behind the scenes. > I got my test license revoked when the spectrum was sold, but a > request to the new owner kept unanswered :( I wouldn't bother. Licensees can't "sublet" very easily. > The UMTS 850 assignment shows that the BNetzA appears being open > for unusual assignments... I know that at least one university was also granted an assignment in UMTS bands not used by commercial operators in Germany. You can certainly talk with them. But even an assignment for your site isn't very helpful if you want to do a demonstration somewhere else... //Peter From frank at ccc.de Fri Dec 8 16:55:44 2017 From: frank at ccc.de (Frank Rieger) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2017 17:55:44 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] 34c3 congress gsm network / AfRA 9.12. 14:00 In-Reply-To: <02d501d36ffb$bb50de70$31f29b50$@schmid.xxx> References: <20171205135130.378d3458@lazus.yip> <20171206121107.GH9908@nataraja> <02d501d36ffb$bb50de70$31f29b50$@schmid.xxx> Message-ID: > On 8. Dec 2017, at 09:08, Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras wrote: > > Is there a good contact to them? I got my test license revoked when the > spectrum was sold, but a request to the new owner kept unanswered :( For now > I am testing on 860 MHz ISM bands, for private use this is quite fine to me, > but not for public presentations. The UMTS 850 assignment shows that the > BNetzA appears being open for unusual assignments... We got the sub-let of the 1800 ARFCNs from Deutsche Telekom. People from their mobile network team will be in Leipzig and also drop by the GSM/UMTS room. I have an ongoing contact with them regarding sub-letting of spectrum, but only for test, development and trials in bands where the BNetzA does not offer any viable options. So for UMTS 850 (and some other bands as well) the BNetzA is the best option. For other spectrum the Deutsche Telekom has set up a sort of ad-hoc process that we are currently using for congress for the 1800 ARFCNs. There are a number of conditions to that: only one person handling the requests as primary contact, proper identification of the entity etc. for the legal department, sufficient trust-base that technical limitations are diligently observed, proper documentation of the sub-let towards the BNetzA etc. If one person violates the conditions and causes trouble, they will revoke all the sub-lets made available to us. So this is not a process for "I would find it cool to have my own spectrum for the two times a year I boot my BTS"-cases. But for events or spaces with regular ongoing development activities with a stable group of people this is an viable option. Thanks & Greetings, Frank Rieger From peter at stuge.se Fri Dec 8 16:54:03 2017 From: peter at stuge.se (Peter Stuge) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2017 16:54:03 +0000 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] 34c3 congress gsm network / AfRA 9.12. 14:00 In-Reply-To: <20171208162612.GG4167@stuge.se> References: <20171205135130.378d3458@lazus.yip> <20171206121107.GH9908@nataraja> <02d501d36ffb$bb50de70$31f29b50$@schmid.xxx> <20171208162612.GG4167@stuge.se> Message-ID: <20171208165403.GH4167@stuge.se> Peter Stuge wrote: > > The UMTS 850 assignment shows that the BNetzA appears being open > > for unusual assignments... > > I know that at least one university was also granted an assignment in > UMTS bands not used by commercial operators in Germany. You can > certainly talk with them. To clarify: You can certainly talk with the Bundesnetzagentur. I always had a good experience when I had any contact with them. //Peter From marcus at hostalia.de Sat Dec 9 12:46:46 2017 From: marcus at hostalia.de (=?UTF-8?Q?Marcus_M=c3=bcller?=) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2017 13:46:46 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] Help setting up stuff in Leipzig Message-ID: <5ff4d2e0-f0d7-5017-4303-498ecfeb3c73@hostalia.de> Hi, as I got the voucher that allowed me to purchase a 34c3 ticket through my Osmocontacts, and since I've been known to hang around the Osmoroom anyway, I think it's only fair to offer my help at setting Osmothings up: I could arrive somewhen on the 26th, and be available from then on without significant interruption. Would there still be need for two helping hands at that point? Regards, Marcus From laforge at gnumonks.org Sat Dec 9 14:27:41 2017 From: laforge at gnumonks.org (Harald Welte) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2017 15:27:41 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] 34c3 congress gsm network / AfRA 9.12. 14:00 In-Reply-To: <20171207191910.GF4167@stuge.se> References: <20171205135130.378d3458@lazus.yip> <20171205155751.GB4167@stuge.se> <20171205214935.ap4rgjbbcg27zooo@my.box> <20171207191910.GF4167@stuge.se> Message-ID: <20171209142741.GA5967@nataraja> On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 07:19:10PM +0000, Peter Stuge wrote: > I was considering trying to operate a Nokia Flexi BTS, but the FRGP > RRU seems to be only for 2100 MHz, so no go. it might be possible to find RU/RRU for the 850 MHz band. but the bigger problem is: what RNC do you want to use? The NodeB's just implement everything up to Iub, and Osmocom only implements down to IuCS/IuPS/Iuh. So The RNC (which is much more complex than a BSC) is missing, and unless you find one, it will be hard to use any non-femtocell 3G devices :/ Regards, Harald -- - Harald Welte http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ ============================================================================ "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) From laforge at gnumonks.org Sat Dec 9 14:29:55 2017 From: laforge at gnumonks.org (Harald Welte) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2017 15:29:55 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] 34c3 congress gsm network / AfRA 9.12. 14:00 In-Reply-To: <20171205135130.378d3458@lazus.yip> References: <20171205135130.378d3458@lazus.yip> Message-ID: <20171209142955.GB5967@nataraja> Dear Alexander, On Tue, Dec 05, 2017 at 01:52:11PM +0100, Alexander Couzens wrote: > I would like invite everybody who is interested in building the > network for this year to come to the AfRA [0] at 9.12. Saturday 14:00 in > Berlin. I won't be going to AFRA and rather focus on continuing my BSC testsuite development at home. However, if you have questions, I'm available on Jabber and IRC (#osmocom / #osmocom-dev) or even via phone. So if there are questions/problems, feel free to reach out. Regards, Harald -- - Harald Welte http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ ============================================================================ "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) From lynxis at fe80.eu Sat Dec 9 15:44:24 2017 From: lynxis at fe80.eu (Alexander Couzens) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2017 16:44:24 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] 34c3 pad Message-ID: <20171209164424.20549c98@lazus.yip> https://cccb.pads.ccc.de/84 pw: gsmfoo2342 -- Alexander Couzens mail: lynxis at fe80.eu jabber: lynxis at fe80.eu mobile: +4915123277221 gpg: 390D CF78 8BF9 AA50 4F8F F1E2 C29E 9DA6 A0DF 8604 From bibor at syscallofduty.org Sat Dec 9 18:16:03 2017 From: bibor at syscallofduty.org (bibor) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2017 19:16:03 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] Hardware for 34c3 Message-ID: <596b60b3-a671-4b30-fd24-da2233a30445@syscallofduty.org> Hi, this year the congress area will be huge, so we may have to make some compromises in coverage. How many femto cells and how many bts will we have at c3? de bibor From nhofmeyr at sysmocom.de Sun Dec 10 13:54:01 2017 From: nhofmeyr at sysmocom.de (Neels Hofmeyr) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 14:54:01 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] re failure to call between two nano3G Message-ID: <20171210135401.GA31907@my.box> Yesterday at the AfRA we ran two nano3G alongside for the first time. We failed to call from one cell to the other. Now I reproduced the same for SMS, and hence pinpointed the failure to Paging not working. It helps to not run all cells with RNC ID 23: https://gerrit.osmocom.org/5264 :) I've just verified that, with that patch, SMSing and calling from one nano3G to another via OsmoMSC works! ~N -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks //Peter From lynxis at fe80.eu Tue Dec 12 07:30:38 2017 From: lynxis at fe80.eu (Alexander Couzens) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 08:30:38 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] issues with umts frequency 824-829 / 869-874 Message-ID: <20171212083038.7fb0e9f5@lazus.yip> Hi, the nano3g is accepting it when using the extended band 5 arfcn 1007 1007 / 5 + 670.1 - 2.5 = 869.0 1007 / 5 + 670.1 + 2.5 = 874.0 best, lynxis -- Alexander Couzens mail: lynxis at fe80.eu jabber: lynxis at fe80.eu mobile: +4915123277221 gpg: 390D CF78 8BF9 AA50 4F8F F1E2 C29E 9DA6 A0DF 8604 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From nhofmeyr at sysmocom.de Tue Dec 12 12:27:18 2017 From: nhofmeyr at sysmocom.de (Neels Hofmeyr) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 13:27:18 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] issues with umts frequency 824-829 / 869-874 In-Reply-To: <20171212074707.GA28559@coil> References: <20171212083038.7fb0e9f5@lazus.yip> <20171212074707.GA28559@coil> Message-ID: <20171212122718.GA10022@ass40.sysmocom.de> On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 08:47:07AM +0100, K?vin Redon wrote: > On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 08:30:38AM +0100, Alexander Couzens wrote: > > the nano3g is accepting it when using the extended band 5 arfcn 1007 > > 1007 / 5 + 670.1 - 2.5 = 869.0 > > 1007 / 5 + 670.1 + 2.5 = 874.0 > > the license is for freq 824.0 to 829.0 MHz and 869.0 to 874.0 MHz. they are both 5 MHz wide, the 5 MHz needed by UMTS. > thus (AFAIK) you have to use the center frequency to get the corresponding UARFCN. > ideally it should be 826.5 MHz and 871.5 MHz. > the closest in band 5 are UARFCN DL 4357 (871.4 MHz) or 4358 (871.6 MHz) and the corresponding UARFCN UL 4132 (826.4 MHz) or 4133 (826.6 MHz). > we also tested successfully both UARFCN on the nano3G (you have to provide the DL) with neils. 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Cheers, Sylvain From nhofmeyr at sysmocom.de Tue Dec 12 14:04:45 2017 From: nhofmeyr at sysmocom.de (Neels Hofmeyr) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 15:04:45 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] todo list Message-ID: <20171212140445.GC10022@ass40.sysmocom.de> Things I'd like to check / fix before the congress starts, some of which could be real show stoppers: - external MNCC with 3G - today dexter encountered a problem when running a 2G network with 3G auth data present in the HLR, timeout when waiting for a cipher mode complete message. Does UMTS-2G AKA work with osmo-bsc?? - properly fix multiple hNodeB, see comments to https://gerrit.osmocom.org/5264 - voice calls between 2G and 3G, i.e. IuUP proxy - reliable 3G data https://osmocom.org/issues/1977 and probably need regression tests for that https://osmocom.org/issues/1959 - operate osmo-msc with osmo-mgw, not osmo-bsc_mgcp (not strictly necessary, we can also stay with osmo-bsc_mgcp) https://gerrit.osmocom.org/4980 That's actually quite a lot to do... Some of it is being worked on by dexter already, some of it has been being postponed for a long while. I need to see how much time I can invest in these items in the two weeks remaining. ~N -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Does UMTS-2G AKA work with osmo-bsc?? > - properly fix multiple hNodeB, see comments to > https://gerrit.osmocom.org/5264 > - voice calls between 2G and 3G, i.e. IuUP proxy > - reliable 3G data https://osmocom.org/issues/1977 and > probably need regression tests for that https://osmocom.org/issues/1959 > - operate osmo-msc with osmo-mgw, not osmo-bsc_mgcp (not strictly > necessary, we can also stay with osmo-bsc_mgcp) > https://gerrit.osmocom.org/4980 - discard VLR subscribers when they miss periodic LU https://osmocom.org/issues/1976 though technically we should keep them as long as valid auth tuples are still available, which in turn translates to a high-watermark on subscribers in the VLR to prevent OOM: https://osmocom.org/issues/1974 Interesting how wanting to run an actual network changes my perspective on (some of the) issues... ~N -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From lynxis at fe80.eu Thu Dec 14 22:59:38 2017 From: lynxis at fe80.eu (Alexander Couzens) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 23:59:38 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] issues with umts frequency 824-829 / 869-874 In-Reply-To: References: <20171212083038.7fb0e9f5@lazus.yip> <20171212074707.GA28559@coil> <20171212122718.GA10022@ass40.sysmocom.de> <20171214164510.42860e7b@lazus.yip> Message-ID: <20171214235938.5dd0c2d1@lazus.yip> On Thu, 14 Dec 2017 22:55:58 +0100 Ulrich Kalloch wrote: > Am 14.12.2017 um 16:45 schrieb Alexander Couzens: > > On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 13:31:21 +0100 > > Sylvain Munaut <246tnt at gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Is the port on the femtocell 100M or Gibabit ? > >> I remember last year that not all the switch port were capable of > >> going down to 100M ... > > the nano3g only supports 100M. > The NOC tells me that only in the COLO are Switches without 100M. The femto cell are our UMTS base stations. We would connect the femto cell to ports in the Saal/Halls. Our server support 1gbit. best, lynxis -- Alexander Couzens mail: lynxis at fe80.eu jabber: lynxis at fe80.eu mobile: +4915123277221 gpg: 390D CF78 8BF9 AA50 4F8F F1E2 C29E 9DA6 A0DF 8604 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From laforge at gnumonks.org Mon Dec 18 09:24:56 2017 From: laforge at gnumonks.org (Harald Welte) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 10:24:56 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] 34C3 SIM Cards arrived Message-ID: <20171218092456.GW17619@nataraja> Hi all, FYI: The 5.000 white / non-printed SIM cards have just arrived at the sysmocom office in Berlin. It's a package weighing 21.3 kilograms, just in case you thought SIM cards don't weigh anything. Alexander and Team: Please let me know when and how it is supposed ot be picked up / shipped. I suppose there's more you want to pick up anyway. Regards, Harald -- - Harald Welte http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ ============================================================================ "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The IMSIs start with 262423403.... just like the previous ones had e.g. 262423203... where "3403" is for 34C3. > If no-one is going by car, we could distribute the SIMs in several smaller > packages that several different persons could take to Leipzig... Well, thre are also still the nano3G that need to be transported, so for sure some means of transport will have to be found for those. Not sure what was the plan for this so far. Lynxis? I *could* go by car if necessary, but I won't go before the 26th, i.e. too late for nano3Gs to be installed. However, not too late to bring SIM cards. -- - Harald Welte http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ ============================================================================ "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) From msuraev at sysmocom.de Mon Dec 18 15:47:08 2017 From: msuraev at sysmocom.de (Max) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 16:47:08 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] 34C3 SIM Cards arrived In-Reply-To: <20171218153305.GD17619@nataraja> References: <20171218092456.GW17619@nataraja> <20171218152606.GA5690@my.box> <20171218153305.GD17619@nataraja> Message-ID: I plan to go by (friend's) car on 23rd so I can take some stuff. Bear in mind that it's regular car not van, so I can only take whatever fits into trunk. On a related note - I don't have transport back from congress so if anyone has a free space, than let me know. On 18.12.2017 16:33, Harald Welte wrote: > > Well, thre are also still the nano3G that need to be transported, so for sure > some means of transport will have to be found for those. Not sure what > was the plan for this so far. Lynxis? > > I *could* go by car if necessary, but I won't go before the 26th, i.e. > too late for nano3Gs to be installed. However, not too late to bring > SIM cards. > -- Max Suraev http://www.sysmocom.de/ ======================================================================= * sysmocom - systems for mobile communications GmbH * Alt-Moabit 93 * 10559 Berlin, Germany * Sitz / Registered office: Berlin, HRB 134158 B * Geschaeftsfuehrer / Managing Director: Harald Welte From lynxis at fe80.eu Mon Dec 18 19:52:36 2017 From: lynxis at fe80.eu (Alexander Couzens) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 20:52:36 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] 34c3 pad - changed password In-Reply-To: <20171209164424.20549c98@lazus.yip> References: <20171209164424.20549c98@lazus.yip> Message-ID: <20171218205236.0a969349@lazus.yip> On Sat, 9 Dec 2017 16:44:24 +0100 Alexander Couzens wrote: > https://cccb.pads.ccc.de/84 pw: gsmfoo2342 I've changed the password, because the ML archive is public. I'll send you the pw off-list. best, lynxis -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If that's desirable then please reach out to the people working at the warehouse ASAP, to ensure that trailer space is indeed available. //Peter From peter at stuge.se Tue Dec 19 12:43:05 2017 From: peter at stuge.se (Peter Stuge) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 12:43:05 +0000 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] Status ARFCNs Telekom In-Reply-To: <20171219020321.09b67aae@lazus.yip> References: <20171219020321.09b67aae@lazus.yip> Message-ID: <20171219124305.GI4167@stuge.se> Alexander Couzens wrote: > der Brief ist schon bei cpunkt eingegangen und ich hab den in PDF Form. Great! Have we sent out the application to BNetzA already? They need an application since we need an assignment for those channels too. Thanks //Peter From laforge at gnumonks.org Wed Dec 20 14:33:12 2017 From: laforge at gnumonks.org (Harald Welte) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 15:33:12 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] 34C3 SIM Cards arrived In-Reply-To: References: <20171218092456.GW17619@nataraja> <20171218152606.GA5690@my.box> <20171218153305.GD17619@nataraja> Message-ID: <20171220143312.GF2155@nataraja> Hi Max, I think it's best to coordinate with Lynxis. AFAICT there are still the following two things to bring along: * 5000 sim cards (21kgs); it's a carton box labeled "34C3 USIM" currently stored in front of the webshop shelf in the sysmocom office. * an undetermined number of femtocells (probably around 20 or so nano3G S8, but possibly also the "wall wart type"). Lynxis? The SIM cards are heavy and don't need much space, so probably a good idea to take those with you on the 23rd? Once again, I'm just sharing ideas here here and I'm not authoritative in any way when it comes to the 32C3 cellular network[s]. As for my plans: I will be around during the event for some amount of Osmocom debugging/bug fixing, but I won't be involved in the actual setup/operation/teardown. My deepest respect to the team who's working on this these days! Regards, Harald -- - Harald Welte http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ ============================================================================ "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) From lynxis at fe80.eu Thu Dec 21 02:31:27 2017 From: lynxis at fe80.eu (Alexander Couzens) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 03:31:27 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] Status ARFCNs Telekom In-Reply-To: <20171219124305.GI4167@stuge.se> References: <20171219020321.09b67aae@lazus.yip> <20171219124305.GI4167@stuge.se> Message-ID: <20171221033127.0724b582@lazus.yip> On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 12:43:05 +0000 Peter Stuge wrote: > Alexander Couzens wrote: > > der Brief ist schon bei cpunkt eingegangen und ich hab den in PDF > > Form. > > Great! Have we sent out the application to BNetzA already? yes. already done and got accepted. best, lynxis -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From laforge at gnumonks.org Mon Dec 25 08:30:23 2017 From: laforge at gnumonks.org (Harald Welte) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2017 09:30:23 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] Things to bring to Leipzig on 26th Message-ID: <20171225083023.GF4152@nataraja> Hi all, I'm going to stop by at the sysmocom office, in case there's still something to bring to the 34C3 venue. I'm planning to arrive at some point before noon on the 26th at Messe Leipzig. So far I have on my list: * more sysmoBTS (if any are still in the lab and not needed by Daniel) * TEMS phone[s] + charger * OsmocomBB phone[s] + charger * RF Explorer * SIM Card reader(s) in case we need to modify some cards * some webshop items for Vadim + friend >From my home, I am planning to bring: * 1x personal sysmoBTS (we can put that up for R&D/testing in the GSM room) * 1x femtocell for R&D/testing purpose * extension cords / power strips If you have additions to that list, please let me know before 7pm tonight (25th) preferrably by personal e-mail. Regrads, Harald -- - Harald Welte http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ ============================================================================ "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) From stsp at stsp.name Mon Dec 25 16:17:27 2017 From: stsp at stsp.name (Stefan Sperling) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2017 17:17:27 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] arriving at 34c3 tomorrow Message-ID: <20171225161727.GH97781@ted.stsp.name> Hey all, I should be arriving tomorrow at noon on a bus direct from Berlin to Leipzig Messe. I suppose I will find you all in the GSM room? See you tomorrow, Stefan From ml at mail.tsaitgaist.info Mon Dec 25 16:35:06 2017 From: ml at mail.tsaitgaist.info (=?iso-8859-1?Q?K=E9vin?= Redon) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2017 17:35:06 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] arriving at 34c3 tomorrow In-Reply-To: <20171225161727.GH97781@ted.stsp.name> References: <20171225161727.GH97781@ted.stsp.name> Message-ID: <20171225163506.GA20156@coil.home> On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 05:17:27PM +0100, Stefan Sperling wrote: > I should be arriving tomorrow at noon on a bus direct from Berlin > to Leipzig Messe. I suppose I will find you all in the GSM room? I'll arrive in the evening, Kevin From lynxis at fe80.eu Mon Dec 25 18:43:35 2017 From: lynxis at fe80.eu (Alexander Couzens) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2017 19:43:35 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] arriving at 34c3 tomorrow In-Reply-To: <20171225163506.GA20156@coil.home> References: <20171225161727.GH97781@ted.stsp.name> <20171225163506.GA20156@coil.home> Message-ID: <20171225194335.379aca27@lazus.yip> There is a GSM room and we're in it. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From lynxis at fe80.eu Tue Dec 26 07:32:23 2017 From: lynxis at fe80.eu (Alexander Couzens) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2017 08:32:23 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] state of the core network #34c3 Message-ID: <20171226083145.230db9e5@lazus.yip> The hardware state looks good. bibor is working + coordinating the bts deployment. The software state is not so good. We don't even have a basic 2g setup yet. - 1x 2g bts is active (at the gsm room) - no active 3g nano3g yet - the auth over GERAN seems to work in general, but there is at least from one phone which doesn't work, but it could be the UMTS AKA problem (patch needs to be applied?!) - connection to POC/eventphone - there is a freeswitch setup. Thanks to nibblr! (needs to be deployed on the gsm server) [0] - osmo-sip-connector is missing the codec selection to MSC as well as to SIP - to freeswitch/sip: implement on the first run GSM FR only - to MSC: force GSM FR - osmo-msc: seems to have some odd leftover from the nitb -> msc/bsc split. - I've also managed to get into corner cases, after dialing A -> B and end up one of them having a call with themself. I'm going to rest now and will be there around 14:00. best, lynxis The freeswitch needs to be deployed on the gsm server. I've used a lxc container on my laptop for testing. [0] .tar.gz from /etc/freeswitch https://own.fe80.eu/s/JCCLlNmhEd2Er5e -- Alexander Couzens mail: lynxis at fe80.eu jabber: lynxis at fe80.eu mobile: +4915123277221 gpg: 390D CF78 8BF9 AA50 4F8F F1E2 C29E 9DA6 A0DF 8604 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From peter at stuge.se Tue Dec 26 11:19:03 2017 From: peter at stuge.se (Peter Stuge) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2017 11:19:03 +0000 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] state of the core network #34c3 In-Reply-To: <20171226083145.230db9e5@lazus.yip> References: <20171226083145.230db9e5@lazus.yip> Message-ID: <20171226111903.GL4167@stuge.se> Alexander Couzens wrote: > The hardware state looks good. bibor is working + coordinating the bts > deployment. Cool! > The software state is not so good. We don't even have a basic 2g setup yet. .. > I'm going to rest now and will be there around 14:00. You are making really excellent progress on the deployment, even though parts aren't ready yet. > The freeswitch needs to be deployed on the gsm server. I've used a lxc > container on my laptop for testing. I'll arrive later this afternoon and will help with server setup. //Peter From lynxis at fe80.eu Tue Dec 26 12:21:52 2017 From: lynxis at fe80.eu (Alexander Couzens) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2017 13:21:52 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] Day0 14:30 @GSM coordinate and talk Message-ID: <20171226132152.7e7a85fe@lazus.yip> let's come together and talk, coordinate around 14:30 in the gsm room. From lynxis at fe80.eu Sat Dec 30 09:21:07 2017 From: lynxis at fe80.eu (lynxis at fe80.eu) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 10:21:07 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] take down Message-ID: <8c93fd44f1843a178e37becbfebe0374@base45.de> I would like to start the take down oft he network after the closing event. We have to leave the GSM room around 10 pm. Sokrates and bibor have a room key atm. I will be back at 3 pm. You can call sokrates if you need a key.