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Keith keith at rhizomatica.orgOn 11/09/18 05:41, Harald Welte wrote: > Hi Neels, > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 11:26:46PM +0200, Neels Hofmeyr wrote: > >> So, I want to make 'logging level all' manipulate each individual category >> once-off, I want to completely deprecate the 'everything' keyword, and drop the >> "global clamp" feature entirely. >> >> Maybe I'd re-add the clamp as 'logging level force-all (debug|...|fatal)' and >> 'no logging level force-all' to switch it off. That would be exactly the old >> clamping feature just with less confusing names. Well, I was in favour of the "clamp" originally, and I was using it a lot, hence my manual patching for a while of libosmocore to restore "everything" as "clamp-remover". I use it less now, if ever I do do something like logging level all debug, I know I have to exit the vty and start again to remove the clamp. >> >> >> The only thing that makes me write here is that I'm only 90% sure on changing >> the meaning of an existing command, of 'logging level all'. If there is no >> negative feedback on this here, that would bring me to 100%. > In terms of semantics, old notes/documentation, etc. I would suggest to simply > deprecate "all" and introduce a new command instead. If the global clamping > is removed, then "logging level all debug" could simply become a no-op, so if people > type it in because they are used to it, or have it in some old configs, no > harm is done. And if they use "logging level all notice" then they should get > a non-fatal warning/notice message that this command is no longer supported. You /could/ just reinstate the "all everything" as clamp remover. Note that doing "write" in the vty still writes a "logging level all everything" line to the config, causing a warning on startup: % Ignoring deprecated logging level everything Then leave logging level all notice meaning "clamp to notice" (as it always was). I honestly never found this difficult to understand once I understood how it worked, so I'd suggest documenting "all" as a "clamp" and suggesting prefer the use of "set-all" > > So in short: I suggest to not overload existing keywords, but introducing new ones > with well-defined/documented meaning. > Then add logging level set-all [level]? set-all makes most sense to me out of the suggestions, for a temporary But again... I really don't mind.. I don't want to wreck your head, Neels, in making decisions. Deprecate 'all' if you want. As I said before I just use expect scripts as shell functions to setup different logging scenarios: rhizomatica at rccnII:~$ type nitb_cc nitb_cc is a function nitb_cc () { /usr/bin/expect -c 'spawn telnet localhost 4242;send "enable\r";send "logging enable\r";send "logging print category 1\r";send "logging level smpp fatal\r"; send "logging level mncc debug\r"; send "logging level cc debug\r"; send "logging filter all 1\r"; interact' } I think this is easier that trying to put that functionality into osmocore itself.. which would be something like logging level foo bar.. [..repeat according to preferences..] then logging scenario save mylogging logging scenario load mylogging One has more urgent things to do.. right? k/