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Harald Welte laforge at gnumonks.orgHi WoMax, On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 02:20:44PM +0100, WoMax wrote: > If there is a solution for UMTS (W-CDMA) coming, we don't need the expensive > nanoBTS anymore. Yes and no. UMTS Node-B's and Home-Node-B are 3G only, i.e. will not work with the > 66% of all the phones that are actively in use even in developed countries. > BTW I've still one for sale ... see at http://umts.zerber.us I would like to kindly ask you to refrain from further advertising your product sales on this mailing list. I think people will easily find your messages in the archives. And no, I have no commercial motivation. BS-11 are sold out, and I think even for those I've never really actively made advertisements on this list. > There are cheap W-CDMA BTS's out there, like Netgear DVG834GH, AT&T 3G > Microcell, Alcatel-Lucent 9365 or the Vodafone Access Gateway you can buy in > England for just 160 GBP each. We're very well aware about this. Dieter, myself and others have been playing around with them a bit. Biggest issue is that there is no standard protocol like A-bis, and every vendor seems to have its own proprietary hacks. There actually is a IuH standard protocol, but that doesn't seem to be used much [yet?]. > All the femtocell's I know have built in GPS for timebase and security > reason, so there is a lot to do for our purpose ... At least one in the list that you have indicated above does not have GPS but rather a GSM modem for that purpsoe. Also, the security is implemented in the core network (HMB gateway or beyond), not in the femtocells themselves. > I guess the future is W-CDMA and I hope there will be openUMTS available > soon ;-) I'm not so sure. The capacity of those units is typically also very limited, as well as the transmit power... it always depends on the application. The biggest challenge for working with 3G is ASN.1 PER, as I have indicated in my blog. The only open source asn.1 tool that support all the required language features, as well as PER aligned and unaligned encoding is asn1ct, part of the Erlang distribution. And while Erlang might be a great programming language, it is exotic and not many people know how to program it. So unless somebody will implement the RNC + MSC functionality in Erlang, or write useful asn.1 tools for C and adapt OpenBSC, I don't see much progress in the Open Soruce 3G protocols area... Cheers, Harald -- - Harald Welte <laforge at gnumonks.org> http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ ============================================================================ "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6)