From mariolucas75 at mail.ru  Sun Sep  5 18:57:33 2021
From: mariolucas75 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?TWFyaW8gTHVjYXM=?=)
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2021 21:57:33 +0300
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Message-ID: <1630868253.141453249@f745.i.mail.ru>


Dear All,
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I try to run a virtual BTS:
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systemctl start osmo-stp
systemctl start osmo-hlr
systemctl start osmo-msc
systemctl start osmo-bsc
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and finally i run osmo-bts-virtual?. but i am getting following outcome:
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DOML <0001> oml.c:91 OC=GPRS-CELL INST=(00,ff,ff): Sending PCU version report to BSC: PCU socket has LOST connection
DPCU <0009> pcu_sock.c:1084 PCU socket connected to external PCU
DPCU <0009> pcu_sock.c:967 Received 212 bytes on PCU Socket, but primitive size is 1006, discarding
DPCU <0009> pcu_sock.c:895 PCU socket has LOST connection
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I tried to run osmo-pcu (I thought may be this will resole above issue) but it keeps saying:
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<000b> gprs_ns.c:322 NSVCI=65534 Creating NS-VC with Signal weight 1, Data weight 1
<000e> telnet_interface.c:104 Available via telnet 127.0.0.1 4240
<0001> osmobts_sock.cpp:224 Opening OsmoPCU L1 interface to OsmoBTS
<0001> osmobts_sock.cpp:248 osmo-bts PCU socket /tmp/pcu_bts has been connected
<0001> pcu_l1_if.cpp:114 Sending 0.8.0 TXT as PCU_VERSION to BTS
PCU interface version number of BTS (10) is different (9).
Please re-compile!
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I have
OsmoPCU version 0.8.0
OsmoBTS version 1.2.0.307-6e27
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Would you kindly advise whats going on please?.
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As i understand osmo-pcu is to implement GPRS into my GSM network? ok but if i dont want GPRS implemented thus i dont need PCU ?. can i run virtual bts without this PCU things ?
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pls help ?..
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From pespin at sysmocom.de  Sun Sep  5 20:18:02 2021
From: pespin at sysmocom.de (Pau Espin Pedrol)
Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2021 22:18:02 +0200
Subject: PCU socket has LOST connection
In-Reply-To: <1630868253.141453249@f745.i.mail.ru>
References: <1630868253.141453249@f745.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <11baf500-dcd5-f082-66fd-8b7172dbd52a@sysmocom.de>

Hi,

On 9/5/21 8:57 PM, Mario Lucas wrote:
> OsmoPCU version 0.8.0
> OsmoBTS version 1.2.0.307-6e27

You have rather old versions of osmocom software. Latest osmo-bts is 
1.3.2 and osmo-pcu 0.9.0. I don't know where did you get them from, but 
first of all you should upgrade to latest stable. Check Osmocom OBS 
repositories.

> Would you kindly advise whats going on please?.
> As i understand osmo-pcu is to implement GPRS into my GSM network? ok 
> but if i dont want GPRS implemented thus i dont need PCU ?. can i run 
> virtual bts without this PCU things ?

Sure you can use your network/bts without gprs. Make sure to use VTY 
option "gprs mode none" in your osmo-bsc.cfg, and avoid setting any TS 
to PDCH ("phys_chan_config PDCH")

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From mariolucas75 at mail.ru  Fri Sep 10 20:40:43 2021
From: mariolucas75 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?TWFyaW8gTHVjYXM=?=)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2021 23:40:43 +0300
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Dear All,
Could you please advise me based on what logic (how) can i decompose?logical channel configuration??CCCH+SDCCH4 which is mapped on TS0???
So my understanding is as follows:
There are 51 TDMA frames in multiframe, therefore i am having 51?consecutive TS0 slots. So??CCCH+SDCCH4 should be redistributed in these 51 slots.
SDCCH4 means that there are 4 SDCCH?blocks,?each block is having 4 bursts?or 4 timeslots in another words (as i understand to transmit SDCCH ?unit data? it is needed 4 burts), so 16 slots are occupied by SDCCH.
Does it mean 51-16 =?35 slots to be occupied by CCCH ?
If i use following notation CCCH=C, SDCCH1=S1,?SDCCH2=S2,?SDCCH3=S3 and?SDCCH4=S4 does the decomposition looks like:
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CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC?S1S1S1S1?S2S2S2S2?S3S3S3S3?S4S4S4S4
If so should not there be an idle slots ???
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Thank you so much.
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From laforge at osmocom.org  Sat Sep 11 09:29:43 2021
From: laforge at osmocom.org (Harald Welte)
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2021 11:29:43 +0200
Subject: osmo-bsc default config file time-slot TS0 configuration
 CCCH+SDCCH4 understanding
In-Reply-To: <1631306443.523067660@f470.i.mail.ru>
References: <1631306443.523067660@f470.i.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <YTx3B2UoOwv2qojV@nataraja>

Hi Mario,

On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 11:40:43PM +0300, Mario Lucas wrote:
> Could you please advise me based on what logic (how) can i decompose?logical channel configuration??CCCH+SDCCH4 which is mapped on TS0???

See the diagram e.g. at https://www.rfwireless-world.com/Terminology/GSM-combined-channel-configuration.html for the 51-multiframe in a combined CCCH situation, for both downlink and uplink.

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From mariolucas75 at mail.ru  Wed Sep 15 18:13:51 2021
From: mariolucas75 at mail.ru (=?UTF-8?B?TWFyaW8gTHVjYXM=?=)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 21:13:51 +0300
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Dear Forum members i am not sure this question directly relates to Osmocom, but I don?t know where I can post it else ?. If you know some active / alive technical forum which relates to GSM side (frequencies, modulations, GMSK etc etc) it would be very great if you could advise me ?..
Meanwhile I ll continue with my question?. 
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51 TDMA multiframe starts with a FCCH which carries frequency correction burst on TS0.
Due to nature of GMSK modulation and initial zeros of frequency correction burst the aired signal (signal that GSM modulator emits into air) as I understand is nothing but sine wave of an approximately 67Khz on top of the carrier frequency. Once mobile finds the frequency correction burst on some frequency it subtracts 67 Khz and precisely gets / sits on beacon frequency. So when it is said that upon switching the mobile phone on - ?it is looking for frequency correction bursts means in different words that it is looking for sine wave in GSM frequency interval it can work. ?Let?s say if my phone can work only in E-GSM900 interval (925 - 960 Mhz) it is looking for sine wave (frequency correction burst) and once finds it will subtract 67 Khz and it will be precisely the carrier frequency of beacon channel ?
So if I use my rtl-sdr and software that analyzes ?RF spectrum (something like only oscilloscope) in 925 960 Mhz interval and I notice ?sine waves with periodic occurrence - as many times as FCCH appears in 51 multiframe - can I say that got frequency correction burst and subtracting 67 Khz I got beacon frequency ?
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From laforge at osmocom.org  Thu Sep 23 19:43:48 2021
From: laforge at osmocom.org (Harald Welte)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2021 21:43:48 +0200
Subject: Announcement of "OsmoDevCall" on September 24, 2021
Message-ID: <YUzY9OlaxWxCV/sL@nataraja>

Dear Osmocom community,

It's my pleasure to announce the next OsmoDevCall at

	September 24, 2021 at 20:00 CEST
at
	https://meeting4.franken.de/b/har-xbc-bsx-wvs

This meeting will have the following schedule:

20:00 meet + greet
20:15 presentation on "ISO 7816 smart card interface FPGA softcore" by tnt
21:00 USSE: unstructured supplementary social event [*]
22:00 close of call

Attendance is free of charge and open to anyone with an interest
in Osmocom.

More information about OsmoDevCall, including the schedule
for further upcoming events can be found at
https://osmocom.org/projects/osmo-dev-con/wiki/OsmoDevCall

Looking forward to meeting you on Friday.

Best regards,
	Harald

[*] this is how we started to call the "unstructured" part of osmocom
developer conferences in the past, basically where anyone can talk about
anything, no formal schedule or structure.

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