From laforge at osmocom.org  Tue Nov  2 09:25:47 2021
From: laforge at osmocom.org (Harald Welte)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2021 10:25:47 +0100
Subject: OsmoDevCon 2022 ?
Message-ID: <YYEEG5iH/7FxvHLc@nataraja>

Dear fellow Osmocom developers,

as you all know, we've sadly had to skip OsmoDevCon 2020 and 2021,
trying to compensate it at least to some extent with our OsmoDevCall
every two weeks.

The COVID-19 pandemic is far from over, and we don't know what the
upcoming winter season will bring.

Nevertheless, I think it would be a good idea to start a discussion of
whether we should plan for an OsmoDevCon in 2022.

I personally would say let's plan for the usual late April 2022 time frame,
and if the pandemic situation deteriorates, we can still cancel it with
something like one month lead time.

I would also personally suggest to limit attendance to people who are fully
vaccinated, and in addition do a self-test for all participants every
morning.

In terms of venue, we might also consider to move to a venue that allows better
ventilation.  Irrespective of the above we can also bring the air filters from
the sysmocom office.

So with that as an input statement, I would like to hear your opinion
on the above proposals.  Who would want to attend? Any complaints against
the "vaccinated only plus daily self-tests in the morning" approach?

Regards,
	Harald
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- Harald Welte <laforge at osmocom.org>            http://laforge.gnumonks.org/
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From 246tnt at gmail.com  Tue Nov  2 10:22:21 2021
From: 246tnt at gmail.com (Sylvain Munaut)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2021 11:22:21 +0100
Subject: OsmoDevCon 2022 ?
In-Reply-To: <YYEEG5iH/7FxvHLc@nataraja>
References: <YYEEG5iH/7FxvHLc@nataraja>
Message-ID: <CAHL+j0_oB_1GKDT+n2PNV0y2PyxMxjPLnDjpBU_irpe_0hf1JQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Harald,

I'm definitely for it and would attend and the usual timeframe sounds good.

As for the modalities.
 - Vaccinated : Sure.
 - Self Test : Although a test before departure sounds like a good
idea, I'm not really sure of the need / efficacy of a day to day test.
But I also have no issue taking one if people are more comfortable
that way or think it's worth it.
 - Venue : Obvious questions is what are the alternatives :)
 - Ventilation : I honestly have no idea on the efficacy of that, but
if you got filters for the sysmocom office, I guess you did some
research and if they are movable and not obnoxiously loud, that can't
hurt.
 - Masks : You didn't mention it in your original email, but
personally I think in this context ( low number of people, but quite
extended period of time, + meals / drinks ), their efficacy would be
negligible. But again, if the consensus is to wear them, I have no
issues with that.

This is of course just my 2ct and also for my personal situation (like
for instance I know I can easily have a week "buffer" before/after the
event where I'll have virtually no contacts).
Looking forward to hear what others think.

Cheers,

    Sylvain


From pespin at sysmocom.de  Wed Nov  3 14:08:07 2021
From: pespin at sysmocom.de (Pau Espin Pedrol)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2021 15:08:07 +0100
Subject: OsmoDevCon 2022 ?
In-Reply-To: <CAHL+j0_oB_1GKDT+n2PNV0y2PyxMxjPLnDjpBU_irpe_0hf1JQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <YYEEG5iH/7FxvHLc@nataraja>
 <CAHL+j0_oB_1GKDT+n2PNV0y2PyxMxjPLnDjpBU_irpe_0hf1JQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7d108ef3-07ae-2aa0-f995-1cb3fd747100@sysmocom.de>



On 11/2/21 11:22, Sylvain Munaut wrote:
> Hi Harald,
> 
> I'm definitely for it and would attend and the usual timeframe sounds good.
> 
> As for the modalities.
>   - Vaccinated : Sure.

Agree, I consider this a must (or some sort of equivalent certificate).


>   - Self Test : Although a test before departure sounds like a good
> idea, I'm not really sure of the need / efficacy of a day to day test.
> But I also have no issue taking one if people are more comfortable
> that way or think it's worth it.

I'd say at least providing a PCR/antigen test over last 24-48h is 
enough, given that I expect no much social interaction with third 
parties once OsmoDevCon starts, since we'll be most part of the day 
together. That'd be fine for me. Maybe one can be enforced during the 
first day at start of the event.


>   - Venue : Obvious questions is what are the alternatives :)

While in general I like being at IN Berlin during the conferences, it 
would be a good idea to explore other venues for this year, were we can 
have a bit more space between people and a bigger volume of ventilated 
air, maybe also with some extra place outside.


>   - Masks : You didn't mention it in your original email, but
> personally I think in this context ( low number of people, but quite
> extended period of time, + meals / drinks ), their efficacy would be
> negligible. But again, if the consensus is to wear them, I have no
> issues with that.

The specific rules regarding this topic can probably be 
discussed/announced a few days/weeks before the event, to take into 
account current legislation, epidemic numbers, etc. since it doesn't 
involve any kind of organization ahead.

Regards,
Pau

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From nhofmeyr at sysmocom.de  Thu Nov  4 16:34:14 2021
From: nhofmeyr at sysmocom.de (Neels Hofmeyr)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2021 17:34:14 +0100
Subject: OsmoDevCon 2022 ?
In-Reply-To: <20211104160735.GA26052@my.box>
References: <YYEEG5iH/7FxvHLc@nataraja>
 <20211104160735.GA26052@my.box>
Message-ID: <20211104163414.GB26052@my.box>

> requiring vaccination to attend by default. Maybe with the option for attendees
> to request attendance despite no vaccination, and then see whether we can
> unanimously agree on that?

I'd like to add that I find it should also be sufficient to have recovered from
COVID. This is a common rule in schools in Berlin that does relieve teachers
from the need to test regularly (called 2G, incidentally).

Another question is whether we play by RKI rules and not accept certain
vaccines.

I guess we should first see whether anyone would be refused attendance based on
these rules and take it from there?

Here is a dudle to anonymously figure out the current vaccination status. Feel
free to enter your current status, especially if you're not fully vaccinated
and would like to attend. This is just to get a basis for discussion:

https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.de/w93G6NPqfA/

I guess we need to repeat such poll in early '22.


From laforge at osmocom.org  Sat Nov  6 09:11:04 2021
From: laforge at osmocom.org (Harald Welte)
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2021 10:11:04 +0100
Subject: OsmoDevCon 2022 ?
In-Reply-To: <YYUvFrK4JWLI0EwH@diode>
References: <YYEEG5iH/7FxvHLc@nataraja>
 <YYUvFrK4JWLI0EwH@diode>
Message-ID: <YYZGqJ9/vOeFmpWJ@nataraja>

Hi Kevin,

On Fri, Nov 05, 2021 at 02:18:14PM +0100, K?vin Redon wrote:
> I'm also happy to help with the recording and streaming of the public talks for those not able to join on site.

thanks for that, as usual.

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- Harald Welte <laforge at osmocom.org>            http://laforge.gnumonks.org/
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"Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option."
                                                  (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6)


From laforge at osmocom.org  Thu Nov 11 08:13:33 2021
From: laforge at osmocom.org (Harald Welte)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2021 09:13:33 +0100
Subject: "OsmoDevCall" on Nov 12, 2021: icE1usb in practice
Message-ID: <YYzQrfXrKnJnOYIY@nataraja>

Dear Osmocom community,

It's my pleasure to announce the next OsmoDevCall at

	November 12, 2021 at 20:00 CET
at
	https://meeting4.franken.de/b/har-xbc-bsx-wvs

This meeting will have the following schedule:

20:00 meet + greet
20:10 presentation "E1 / TDM / PDH / SDH basics" by laforge
20:30 presentation "icE1usb in practice" by tnt
later USSE: unstructured supplementary social event [*]

Attendance is free of charge and open to anyone with an interest
in Osmocom.

More information about OsmoDevCall, including the schedule
for further upcoming events can be found at
https://osmocom.org/projects/osmo-dev-con/wiki/OsmoDevCall

Looking forward to meeting you on Friday.

Best regards,
	Harald

[*] this is how we started to call the "unstructured" part of osmocom
developer conferences in the past, basically where anyone can talk about
anything, no formal schedule or structure.

-- 
- Harald Welte <laforge at osmocom.org>            http://laforge.gnumonks.org/
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"Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option."
                                                  (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6)


From laforge at osmocom.org  Tue Nov 23 19:04:10 2021
From: laforge at osmocom.org (Harald Welte)
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2021 20:04:10 +0100
Subject: "OsmoDevCall" on Nov 25, 2021: Control/User Plane Separation (CUPS)
 + PFCP
Message-ID: <YZ07KkB31oA17BhI@nataraja>

Dear Osmocom community,

It's my pleasure to announce the next OsmoDevCall at

	November 25, 2021 at 20:00 CET (yes, Thursday instead of Friday this time!)
at
	https://meeting4.franken.de/b/har-xbc-bsx-wvs

This meeting will have the following schedule:

20:00 meet + greet
20:10 presentation "Control/User Plane Separation (CUPS) + PFCP" by laforge
21:00 unstructured supplementary social event [*]

Attendance is free of charge and open to anyone with an interest
in Osmocom or open source cellular technologies.

More information about OsmoDevCall, including the schedule
for further upcoming events can be found at
https://osmocom.org/projects/osmo-dev-con/wiki/OsmoDevCall

Looking forward to meeting you on Friday.

Best regards,
	Harald

[*] this is how we started to call the "unstructured" part of osmocom
developer conferences in the past, basically where anyone can talk about
anything, no formal schedule or structure.

-- 
- Harald Welte <laforge at osmocom.org>            http://laforge.gnumonks.org/
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"Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option."
                                                  (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6)


From domi at tomcsanyi.net  Wed Nov 24 00:01:41 2021
From: domi at tomcsanyi.net (Tomcsanyi, Domonkos)
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2021 01:01:41 +0100
Subject: "OsmoDevCall" on Nov 25,
 2021: Control/User Plane Separation (CUPS) + PFCP
In-Reply-To: <YZ07KkB31oA17BhI@nataraja>
References: <YZ07KkB31oA17BhI@nataraja>
Message-ID: <90D11810-3DC7-4A7C-A3B2-80F9A69DA5D4@tomcsanyi.net>

Hi Harald,

> 23.11.2021 d?tummal, 20:11 id?pontban Harald Welte <laforge at osmocom.org> ?rta:
> 
> Looking forward to meeting you on Friday.

You meant Thursday I assume :-) :-)

Cheers,
Domi