Hi folks,

Thanks for your clarifications Kurtis and Matt. The project was not abandoned, but we transitioned the project to community-driven development a few weeks ago. It's quiet now but at least a couple of us have discussed how to continue driving development forward. Adopting the new post-NITB stack is probably highest on the priority list after supporting ongoing deployments (given limited resources, support of existing deployments has meant no new feature work).

There is no "internal tool" replacing CCM, not sure where that info came from. 

Shaddi

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On Tue, Oct 23, 2018, 11:01 Matthew Johnson <matt9j@cs.washington.edu> wrote:
Unfortunately I have no info about new development, only speculation from the site being archived and things heard thirdhand about people getting reassigned with no details. I should be more conservative/specific when putting assertions onto public mailing lists : )

Kurtis is right, that CCM was never officially brought into TIP, and was just a Facebook incubated project too. There are a couple of us using CCM in the community, but we haven’t had the time or resources to do much work on it over the last few months. People are open do doing code review and accepting patches on the co-cell/ccm repo, but facebookincubator/CommunityCellularManager has been officially archived with no plan for future work.
-Matt J.
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 14:41 Kurtis Heimerl <kheimerl@cs.washington.edu> wrote:
Some clarifications:

On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 1:06 PM Harald Welte <laforge@gnumonks.org> wrote:
Hi Matthew,

On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 11:51:32AM -0700, Matthew Johnson wrote:
> to public voip network communication. The project was originally run by the
> Telecom Infra Project, but was abandoned by them last year

It's sad to hear that it has been officially abandoned :(

It was more or less apparent to me that priorities had somewhat changed/shifted
and that none of the more or less expected steps (like porting it to the
post-NITB osmocom stack) have happened.

Couple clarifications, CCM was never part of TIP and was instead an FB project. Abandoned is also maybe the wrong term; internal development at FB ended and development was transferred out of the company. There isn't a lot of activity now though, aside from the ongoing deployments.
 

> after they moved to a new (unfortunately private) internal tool

This is the first time I'm hearing about some private internal tool that
replaces CCM.  Are you able to share more information about this?


As is the nature of private internal tools, no. It's not really a replacement for CCM though, interests have moved in a different direction (or had when I was still there).
 

I've asked the OpenCellular project to clarify this in their forum, see
http://ocforum.telecominfraproject.com/t/status-of-communitycellularmanager/86

Unfortunately the Forum doesn't [yet] seem to be very active.

Regards,
        Harald

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