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Pedro Cabrera pedrocab at gmail.comHi all, Just to update, I found something interesting, the Single Wire Protocol: NFC applications on the UICC can communicate to the NFC chip using the SWP interface. Reading on GSMA docs, I found the ETSI TS 102 613 "UICC - Contactless Front-end (CLF) Interface". So looks like is not about 3GPP, but ETSI standards. Also very interesting the GSMA "Requirements for Single Wire Protocol NFC Handsets": http://www.gsma.com/digitalcommerce/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/gsmarequirementsforswpnfchandsetsv4.pdf I continue trying to identify why SCR3310 and simtrace aren't able to read this SIM cards (UICC). Reading simtrace AT91SAM datasheet, it just states "ISO7816, T0 or T1 protocols for interfacing with smart cards", while SCR3310 v2 technical specifications are; -T=1, T=0 protocol support -ISO 7816 Class A, B and C SmartCard -and CT-API (through wrapper on top of PC/SC) I will continue analyzing the ATR for this SIM cards. Regards, Pedro 2017-02-27 17:03 GMT+01:00 Pedro Cabrera <pedrocab at gmail.com>: > Hi all, > > I come to all of you as I'm trying to use simtrace to capture the UE-SIM > traffic with a 4G+ SIM card, called "next gen SIM card" (the ones with > NFC). The only thing I see is the ATR, and the mobile never detects the SIM > card. I try also to read the SIM card plugin directly into the SCR3310 card > reader, but the reader didn't recognize the SIM card (no led activity). > > At the beginning I thought this must be a new standard for the NFC/SIM > cards, but reading 3GPP TS 31.101 V13.2.0 (2016-06), I understood only > Class B and C operating conditions should be supported by 3G MEs (page 10 > of the document), and using transmission protocols T=0 and T=1. So looks > like nothing has change in the protocols/electrical conditions. > > I look for 3GPP specs folder searching for something related with this > NFC/SIM (http://www.3gpp.org/DynaReport/31-series.htm), but nothing > appear. Also searching in google about this simcards I just found Orange > document describing the business strategy to use NFC services/wallet; > > "On February 21st 2011 many of the world’s leading mobile operators (15 in > total) including Orange announced their collective commitment to SIM-based > mobile NFC and intention to launch commercial mobile NFC services. In > November 2011, the Chinese MNOs increased the momentum of support to SIM > based NFC. In January, GSMA communicated that more than 60 MNOs now support > these initiatives." > > Source: https://www.orange.com/en/content/download/12418/258640/ > version/1/file/Orange%2BNFC%2Band%2BOrange%2BMoney%2BFact% > 2BSheet%2B-%2BFebruary%2B2013.pdf > > But still didn't found any technical spec for this sim cards. Most strange > for me is that plugging this SIM card in an old Samsung Galaxy S3 is > working normally, so ask myself why plugging in SCR3310 reader or simtrace > is not working. > > Can anyone help me with this SIM cards specifications? Does anyone been > able to read with SIM readers? > > Best Regards, > Pedro > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.osmocom.org/pipermail/simtrace/attachments/20170301/fa4d9136/attachment.htm>