From pkix at inbox.lv  Tue Sep  2 09:57:02 2014
From: pkix at inbox.lv (Andris Berzins)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 12:57:02 +0300
Subject: sniffing EMV
Message-ID: <1409651822.5405946e06f10@mail.inbox.lv>

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From lukash at backstep.net  Mon Sep  8 18:11:22 2014
From: lukash at backstep.net (Lukas Kuzmiak)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 20:11:22 +0200
Subject: sniffing hangs / too fast sim? / parsing problem?
Message-ID: <CABV5EtFBGr8YKz8KwbdPDv424zGemvBq4AArxZEWs0z1HoFbeg@mail.gmail.com>

Hey guys,

this problem has been around for ages (from my perspective) .. and I don't
seem to understand if it's a SW issue or a HW issue.

I start the ./simtrace .. and then insert the SIM into the phone (or vice
versa), boot up the phone and start sniffing (log below).

It works for a second or two and then the stuff get broken into weird parts
.. I could probably fix that in apdu_split.c

but the other issue is that it stops sniffing completely at that point for
some reason.

Any idea why that happens?

Thanks!

Lukas

Entering main loop

ATR APDU: 3b 9e 96 80 1f c7 80 31 e0 73 fe 21 1b 66 d0 01 7b 8f 0d 00 f8

PPS(Fi=9/Di=6) APDU: 00 a4 00 04 02 3f 00 61 2e

APDU: 00 c0 00 00 2e 62 2c 82 02 78 21 83 02 3f 00 a5 09 80 01 71 83 04 00
00 95 d5 8a 01 05 8b 03 2f 06 02 c6 09 90 01 40 83 01 01 83 01 81 81 04 00
01 50 f2 90 00

APDU: 00 a4 08 04 02 2f e2 61 1b

APDU: 00 c0 00 00 1b 62 19 82 02 41 21 83 02 2f e2 a5 03 80 01 71 8a 01 05
8b 03 2f 06 01 80 02 00 0a 90 00

APDU: 00 b0 00 00 0a 98 94 22 14 51 02 31 21 51 f0 90 00

APDU: 00 a4 00 04 02 2f 05 61 1b

APDU: 00 c0 00 00 1b 62 19 82 02 41 21 83 02 2f 05 a5 03 80 01 71 8a 01 05
8b 03 2f 06 05 80 02 00 08 90 00

APDU: 00 b0 00 00 08 64 65 65 6e 66 72 ff ff 90 00

APDU: 80 10 00 00 1e ff ff ff ff 7f 9f 00 df ff 00 00 1f e2 00 00 00 83 fb
00 07 06 01 60 00 11 00 00 00 00 18 91 44

APDU: 80 12 00 00 44 d0 42 81 03 01 25 00 82 02 81 82 05 0c 53 4d 53 20 53
65 72 76 69 63 65 73 8f 0e 01 49 6e 66 6f 20 53 65 72 76 69 63 65 73 8f 0b
02 57 7c 72 74 65 72 62 75 63 68 8f 06 03 45 4d 61 69 6c 8f 04 04 46 61 78
90 00

APDU: 00 a4 00 04 02 2f 00 61 21

APDU: 00 c0 00 00 21 62 1f 82 05 42 21 00 26 02 83 02 2f 00 a5 03 80 01 71
8a 01 05 8b 03 2f 06 04 80 02 00 4c 88 01 f0 00 00

APDU: b2 01 04 26 b2 61 1e

APDU: 4f 10 a0 00 00 00 87

APDU: 10 02 ff 33 ff ff 89

APDU: 01 01 01 00 50 0a 4f

APDU: 32 2d 47 65 72 6d 61

APDU: 6e 79 ff ff ff ff ff

APDU: ff 90 00 00 b2 02 04

APDU: 26 b2 ff ff ff ff ff
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From lukash at backstep.net  Mon Sep  8 18:27:05 2014
From: lukash at backstep.net (Lukas Kuzmiak)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 20:27:05 +0200
Subject: sniffing hangs / too fast sim? / parsing problem?
In-Reply-To: <CABV5EtFBGr8YKz8KwbdPDv424zGemvBq4AArxZEWs0z1HoFbeg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABV5EtFBGr8YKz8KwbdPDv424zGemvBq4AArxZEWs0z1HoFbeg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABV5EtHBgUAuxrkintG+yK1xD6dNY1f8fMT3-1eAD9Hf2GUheg@mail.gmail.com>

oh,  I forgot to mention.. I still have SIMTrace v1.0 (from CCC camp when
it was first time available).

were there improvements I did not notice?

On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 8:11 PM, Lukas Kuzmiak <lukash at backstep.net> wrote:

> Hey guys,
>
> this problem has been around for ages (from my perspective) .. and I don't
> seem to understand if it's a SW issue or a HW issue.
>
> I start the ./simtrace .. and then insert the SIM into the phone (or vice
> versa), boot up the phone and start sniffing (log below).
>
> It works for a second or two and then the stuff get broken into weird
> parts .. I could probably fix that in apdu_split.c
>
> but the other issue is that it stops sniffing completely at that point for
> some reason.
>
> Any idea why that happens?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Lukas
>
> Entering main loop
>
> ATR APDU: 3b 9e 96 80 1f c7 80 31 e0 73 fe 21 1b 66 d0 01 7b 8f 0d 00 f8
>
> PPS(Fi=9/Di=6) APDU: 00 a4 00 04 02 3f 00 61 2e
>
> APDU: 00 c0 00 00 2e 62 2c 82 02 78 21 83 02 3f 00 a5 09 80 01 71 83 04 00
> 00 95 d5 8a 01 05 8b 03 2f 06 02 c6 09 90 01 40 83 01 01 83 01 81 81 04 00
> 01 50 f2 90 00
>
> APDU: 00 a4 08 04 02 2f e2 61 1b
>
> APDU: 00 c0 00 00 1b 62 19 82 02 41 21 83 02 2f e2 a5 03 80 01 71 8a 01 05
> 8b 03 2f 06 01 80 02 00 0a 90 00
>
> APDU: 00 b0 00 00 0a 98 94 22 14 51 02 31 21 51 f0 90 00
>
> APDU: 00 a4 00 04 02 2f 05 61 1b
>
> APDU: 00 c0 00 00 1b 62 19 82 02 41 21 83 02 2f 05 a5 03 80 01 71 8a 01 05
> 8b 03 2f 06 05 80 02 00 08 90 00
>
> APDU: 00 b0 00 00 08 64 65 65 6e 66 72 ff ff 90 00
>
> APDU: 80 10 00 00 1e ff ff ff ff 7f 9f 00 df ff 00 00 1f e2 00 00 00 83 fb
> 00 07 06 01 60 00 11 00 00 00 00 18 91 44
>
> APDU: 80 12 00 00 44 d0 42 81 03 01 25 00 82 02 81 82 05 0c 53 4d 53 20 53
> 65 72 76 69 63 65 73 8f 0e 01 49 6e 66 6f 20 53 65 72 76 69 63 65 73 8f 0b
> 02 57 7c 72 74 65 72 62 75 63 68 8f 06 03 45 4d 61 69 6c 8f 04 04 46 61 78
> 90 00
>
> APDU: 00 a4 00 04 02 2f 00 61 21
>
> APDU: 00 c0 00 00 21 62 1f 82 05 42 21 00 26 02 83 02 2f 00 a5 03 80 01 71
> 8a 01 05 8b 03 2f 06 04 80 02 00 4c 88 01 f0 00 00
>
> APDU: b2 01 04 26 b2 61 1e
>
> APDU: 4f 10 a0 00 00 00 87
>
> APDU: 10 02 ff 33 ff ff 89
>
> APDU: 01 01 01 00 50 0a 4f
>
> APDU: 32 2d 47 65 72 6d 61
>
> APDU: 6e 79 ff ff ff ff ff
>
> APDU: ff 90 00 00 b2 02 04
>
> APDU: 26 b2 ff ff ff ff ff
>
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From mxu at sanjole.com  Tue Sep  9 18:58:52 2014
From: mxu at sanjole.com (mxu at sanjole.com)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 08:58:52 -1000 (HST)
Subject: =?utf-8?Q?RE=3A_sniffing_hangs_=2F_too_fast_sim=3F_=2F_parsing_problem=3F?=
In-Reply-To: <mailman.9.1410256809.8716.simtrace@lists.osmocom.org>
References: <mailman.9.1410256809.8716.simtrace@lists.osmocom.org>
Message-ID: <1410289132.982528888@apps.rackspace.com>

The issues has been discussed before and I believe I have already fixed the problem.

When I asked Dean to confirm if my last post fixed his issue, it appear he already
unsubscribed from the list before he sent me the reply.

See below

P.S. 
you can get the new firmware at this link: 
http://lists.osmocom.org/pipermail/simtrace/2014-June/000600.html

for the client software, you'll also need the changes indicated here:
http://lists.osmocom.org/pipermail/simtrace/2014-January/000586.html


Subject: Re: Fast SIM cards loosing bytes
From: Dean Chester <dean.g.chester at gmail.com>
To: Min Xu <mxu at sanjole.com>
Cc: "simtrace at lists.osmocom.org" <simtrace at lists.osmocom.org>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hi Min,

Sorry for the delay, i've been travelling with work and been unable to test
this.

I can confirm this is fixes the issues I was having earlier this year. I
believe this firmware should be the default firmware on the simtrace
devices.

The company I work for are currently going through quality control on a
java implementation of the simtrace software to complement this new
firmware once this has been released I'll publish a link to it so then
there is a complete solution for a user to use an improved simtrace device.

Many Thanks,

Dean Chester


On 24 June 2014 22:26, Min Xu <mxu at sanjole.com> wrote:

> Hi Dean
>
> I recently worked on the firmware again and believe I have fixed the
> issues with the parity errors (at least for my SGS 2 and SGS 4 with ATT
> 4G/LTE cards)
>
> Can you try the attached firmware and let me know your results?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 8:23 AM, Min Xu <mxu at sanjole.com> wrote:
>
.....



-----Original Message-----
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 20:11:22 +0200
From: Lukas Kuzmiak <lukash at backstep.net>
To: "simtrace at lists.osmocom.org" <simtrace at lists.osmocom.org>
Subject: sniffing hangs / too fast sim? / parsing problem?
Message-ID:
	<CABV5EtFBGr8YKz8KwbdPDv424zGemvBq4AArxZEWs0z1HoFbeg at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Hey guys,

this problem has been around for ages (from my perspective) .. and I don't
seem to understand if it's a SW issue or a HW issue.

I start the ./simtrace .. and then insert the SIM into the phone (or vice
versa), boot up the phone and start sniffing (log below).

It works for a second or two and then the stuff get broken into weird parts
.. I could probably fix that in apdu_split.c

but the other issue is that it stops sniffing completely at that point for
some reason.

Any idea why that happens?

Thanks!

Lukas

Entering main loop

ATR APDU: 3b 9e 96 80 1f c7 80 31 e0 73 fe 21 1b 66 d0 01 7b 8f 0d 00 f8

PPS(Fi=9/Di=6) APDU: 00 a4 00 04 02 3f 00 61 2e

APDU: 00 c0 00 00 2e 62 2c 82 02 78 21 83 02 3f 00 a5 09 80 01 71 83 04 00
00 95 d5 8a 01 05 8b 03 2f 06 02 c6 09 90 01 40 83 01 01 83 01 81 81 04 00
01 50 f2 90 00

APDU: 00 a4 08 04 02 2f e2 61 1b

APDU: 00 c0 00 00 1b 62 19 82 02 41 21 83 02 2f e2 a5 03 80 01 71 8a 01 05
8b 03 2f 06 01 80 02 00 0a 90 00

APDU: 00 b0 00 00 0a 98 94 22 14 51 02 31 21 51 f0 90 00

APDU: 00 a4 00 04 02 2f 05 61 1b

APDU: 00 c0 00 00 1b 62 19 82 02 41 21 83 02 2f 05 a5 03 80 01 71 8a 01 05
8b 03 2f 06 05 80 02 00 08 90 00

APDU: 00 b0 00 00 08 64 65 65 6e 66 72 ff ff 90 00

APDU: 80 10 00 00 1e ff ff ff ff 7f 9f 00 df ff 00 00 1f e2 00 00 00 83 fb
00 07 06 01 60 00 11 00 00 00 00 18 91 44

APDU: 80 12 00 00 44 d0 42 81 03 01 25 00 82 02 81 82 05 0c 53 4d 53 20 53
65 72 76 69 63 65 73 8f 0e 01 49 6e 66 6f 20 53 65 72 76 69 63 65 73 8f 0b
02 57 7c 72 74 65 72 62 75 63 68 8f 06 03 45 4d 61 69 6c 8f 04 04 46 61 78
90 00

APDU: 00 a4 00 04 02 2f 00 61 21

APDU: 00 c0 00 00 21 62 1f 82 05 42 21 00 26 02 83 02 2f 00 a5 03 80 01 71
8a 01 05 8b 03 2f 06 04 80 02 00 4c 88 01 f0 00 00

APDU: b2 01 04 26 b2 61 1e

APDU: 4f 10 a0 00 00 00 87

APDU: 10 02 ff 33 ff ff 89

APDU: 01 01 01 00 50 0a 4f

APDU: 32 2d 47 65 72 6d 61

APDU: 6e 79 ff ff ff ff ff

APDU: ff 90 00 00 b2 02 04

APDU: 26 b2 ff ff ff ff ff
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Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 20:27:05 +0200
From: Lukas Kuzmiak <lukash at backstep.net>
To: "simtrace at lists.osmocom.org" <simtrace at lists.osmocom.org>
Subject: Re: sniffing hangs / too fast sim? / parsing problem?
Message-ID:
	<CABV5EtHBgUAuxrkintG+yK1xD6dNY1f8fMT3-1eAD9Hf2GUheg at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

oh,  I forgot to mention.. I still have SIMTrace v1.0 (from CCC camp when
it was first time available).

were there improvements I did not notice?

On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 8:11 PM, Lukas Kuzmiak <lukash at backstep.net> wrote:

> Hey guys,
>
> this problem has been around for ages (from my perspective) .. and I don't
> seem to understand if it's a SW issue or a HW issue.
>
> I start the ./simtrace .. and then insert the SIM into the phone (or vice
> versa), boot up the phone and start sniffing (log below).
>
> It works for a second or two and then the stuff get broken into weird
> parts .. I could probably fix that in apdu_split.c
>
> but the other issue is that it stops sniffing completely at that point for
> some reason.
>
> Any idea why that happens?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Lukas
>
> Entering main loop
>
> ATR APDU: 3b 9e 96 80 1f c7 80 31 e0 73 fe 21 1b 66 d0 01 7b 8f 0d 00 f8
>
> PPS(Fi=9/Di=6) APDU: 00 a4 00 04 02 3f 00 61 2e
>
> APDU: 00 c0 00 00 2e 62 2c 82 02 78 21 83 02 3f 00 a5 09 80 01 71 83 04 00
> 00 95 d5 8a 01 05 8b 03 2f 06 02 c6 09 90 01 40 83 01 01 83 01 81 81 04 00
> 01 50 f2 90 00
>
> APDU: 00 a4 08 04 02 2f e2 61 1b
>
> APDU: 00 c0 00 00 1b 62 19 82 02 41 21 83 02 2f e2 a5 03 80 01 71 8a 01 05
> 8b 03 2f 06 01 80 02 00 0a 90 00
>
> APDU: 00 b0 00 00 0a 98 94 22 14 51 02 31 21 51 f0 90 00
>
> APDU: 00 a4 00 04 02 2f 05 61 1b
>
> APDU: 00 c0 00 00 1b 62 19 82 02 41 21 83 02 2f 05 a5 03 80 01 71 8a 01 05
> 8b 03 2f 06 05 80 02 00 08 90 00
>
> APDU: 00 b0 00 00 08 64 65 65 6e 66 72 ff ff 90 00
>
> APDU: 80 10 00 00 1e ff ff ff ff 7f 9f 00 df ff 00 00 1f e2 00 00 00 83 fb
> 00 07 06 01 60 00 11 00 00 00 00 18 91 44
>
> APDU: 80 12 00 00 44 d0 42 81 03 01 25 00 82 02 81 82 05 0c 53 4d 53 20 53
> 65 72 76 69 63 65 73 8f 0e 01 49 6e 66 6f 20 53 65 72 76 69 63 65 73 8f 0b
> 02 57 7c 72 74 65 72 62 75 63 68 8f 06 03 45 4d 61 69 6c 8f 04 04 46 61 78
> 90 00
>
> APDU: 00 a4 00 04 02 2f 00 61 21
>
> APDU: 00 c0 00 00 21 62 1f 82 05 42 21 00 26 02 83 02 2f 00 a5 03 80 01 71
> 8a 01 05 8b 03 2f 06 04 80 02 00 4c 88 01 f0 00 00
>
> APDU: b2 01 04 26 b2 61 1e
>
> APDU: 4f 10 a0 00 00 00 87
>
> APDU: 10 02 ff 33 ff ff 89
>
> APDU: 01 01 01 00 50 0a 4f
>
> APDU: 32 2d 47 65 72 6d 61
>
> APDU: 6e 79 ff ff ff ff ff
>
> APDU: ff 90 00 00 b2 02 04
>
> APDU: 26 b2 ff ff ff ff ff
>
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