From peter at stuge.se Mon Dec 14 10:23:01 2015 From: peter at stuge.se (Peter Stuge) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 11:23:01 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] 32C3 spectrum assignment Message-ID: <20151214102301.9735.qmail@stuge.se> Hi all, I received a scan of this year's assignment from Bundesnetzagentur. Assignment number 01 55 0318 1780,6-1784,8 MHz / 1875,6-1879,8 MHz (assign all the ARFCNs!) Effective 2015-12-20 -> 2015-12-30 16 stationary radios Maximum 200 mW ERP (!) Signed Seide, Au?enstelle Berlin, 2015-11-24 Do we want to get in touch with them about the low ERP? We are in room 11 this year (the smallest room first in the hallway) only because we may need visitors to come to us in case of some problem like with the SIM cards a few years ago. Otherwise the room would have been used for workshops and we would have been placed in a more remote location. I arrive in Hamburg on the 25th and will set the server up as soon as NOC is ready for it. //Peter From ralph at schmid.xxx Mon Dec 14 14:43:29 2015 From: ralph at schmid.xxx (Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 15:43:29 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] 32C3 spectrum assignment In-Reply-To: <20151214102301.9735.qmail@stuge.se> References: <20151214102301.9735.qmail@stuge.se> Message-ID: <0ab501d1367d$ccada900$6608fb00$@schmid.xxx> Amazing! Is this the first time getting such a large block? Would be a great thing for LTE tests, guess I have to ask what they can do for me :) And how much power had been assigned in the years before? I would see 200mW as sufficient, the handhelds also have only 1W at its best, usually less, and you need anyway a BTS every two or three rooms. It will get interesting when this block is in commercial use (they auctioned away the test band this year), what happens with such assignments? I have an all time / everywhere test license for four ARFCNs, and I wonder what they will do in 2017 with it?! Ralph. > -----Original Message----- > From: osmocom-event-orga [mailto:osmocom-event-orga- > bounces at lists.osmocom.org] On Behalf Of Peter Stuge > Sent: Monday, 14 December, 2015 11:23 > To: osmocom-event-orga at lists.osmocom.org > Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] 32C3 spectrum assignment > > Hi all, > > I received a scan of this year's assignment from Bundesnetzagentur. > > > Assignment number 01 55 0318 > > 1780,6-1784,8 MHz / 1875,6-1879,8 MHz (assign all the ARFCNs!) > > Effective 2015-12-20 -> 2015-12-30 > > 16 stationary radios > > Maximum 200 mW ERP (!) > > Signed Seide, Au?enstelle Berlin, 2015-11-24 > > > Do we want to get in touch with them about the low ERP? > > > We are in room 11 this year (the smallest room first in the hallway) only > because we may need visitors to come to us in case of some problem like > with the SIM cards a few years ago. Otherwise the room would have been > used for workshops and we would have been placed in a more remote > location. > > I arrive in Hamburg on the 25th and will set the server up as soon as NOC is > ready for it. > > > //Peter From 246tnt at gmail.com Mon Dec 14 15:03:29 2015 From: 246tnt at gmail.com (Sylvain Munaut) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 16:03:29 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] 32C3 spectrum assignment In-Reply-To: <0ab501d1367d$ccada900$6608fb00$@schmid.xxx> References: <20151214102301.9735.qmail@stuge.se> <0ab501d1367d$ccada900$6608fb00$@schmid.xxx> Message-ID: Hi, > Amazing! Is this the first time getting such a large block? Would be a great thing for LTE tests, guess I have to ask what they can do for me :) And how much power had been assigned in the years before? > > I would see 200mW as sufficient, the handhelds also have only 1W at its best, usually less, and you need anyway a BTS every two or three rooms. I think last time was 5W. We have several BTS with amplifiers. So we can have small cells in large crowded area then a few very wide cells to cover all the gaps everywhere else. > It will get interesting when this block is in commercial use (they auctioned away the test band this year), what happens with such assignments? I have an all time / everywhere test license for four ARFCNs, and I wonder what they will do in 2017 with it?! The blocks have already been auctionned and even though only effective in Jan 2016, it turns out that the authorities have already told Vodafone that they can use the block any way they like now. But after posting that there would be no GSM at 32C3, it seems that someone from Vodafone saw that and since they're not using it yet, they allowed us to use it one last time : ( http://laforge.gnumonks.org/blog/20151116-gsm_at_32c3/ ) It's however likely that by 33C3, this spectrum will be in use, especially in a large city and so that's the last time we'll get a test network. Cheers, Sylvain From peter at stuge.se Tue Dec 15 00:14:26 2015 From: peter at stuge.se (Peter Stuge) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 01:14:26 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] 32C3 spectrum assignment In-Reply-To: <0ab501d1367d$ccada900$6608fb00$@schmid.xxx> References: <20151214102301.9735.qmail@stuge.se> <0ab501d1367d$ccada900$6608fb00$@schmid.xxx> Message-ID: <20151215001426.9240.qmail@stuge.se> Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras wrote: > Amazing! Is this the first time getting such a large block? Yes. Previously we've been assigned 5-8-10 ARFCNs. > Would be a great thing for LTE tests, Do you have some equipment to test? Should be open source of course... ;) > guess I have to ask what they can do for me :) And how much power > had been assigned in the years before? 5W at Camp, 3W and 2W at Congress. > I have an all time / everywhere test license for four ARFCNs Not in the DECT guard band I assume? (The block we were assigned.) //Peter From 246tnt at gmail.com Sat Dec 19 22:19:48 2015 From: 246tnt at gmail.com (Sylvain Munaut) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 23:19:48 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] 32C3 Network setup Message-ID: Hi everyone, Can I get a show of hands of people that can help setup the network at this CCC event ? Just to get an idea who's there and available to help. Pesonally I'll get to the venue on the 25th evening and I'll be available all 26th for setup. Cheers, Sylvain From peter at stuge.se Sat Dec 19 22:23:41 2015 From: peter at stuge.se (Peter Stuge) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 23:23:41 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] 32C3 Network setup In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20151219222341.27606.qmail@stuge.se> Hi, Sylvain Munaut wrote: > Can I get a show of hands of people that can help setup the network at > this CCC event ? Just to get an idea who's there and available to > help. Thanks for the call! > Pesonally I'll get to the venue on the 25th evening and I'll be > available all 26th for setup. I arrive on the 25th. I will set up the server as soon as NOC will have it and I will help with critical things on 25th and maybe 26th. I hope to take a short break before congress this year, let's see how that works out for me.. //Peter From push at ninja-netz.de Sat Dec 19 22:46:02 2015 From: push at ninja-netz.de (push) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 23:46:02 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] test Message-ID: <5675DE2A.2000409@ninja-netz.de> test From push at ninja-netz.de Sat Dec 19 22:40:17 2015 From: push at ninja-netz.de (push) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 23:40:17 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] 32C3 Network setup Message-ID: <5675DCD1.3060505@ninja-netz.de> Hi, i am at potsdam and wating for the hardware from osmocom to bring it to the congress i`ll be available ... from now /... Ulli / -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From laforge at gnumonks.org Sat Dec 19 22:37:24 2015 From: laforge at gnumonks.org (Harald Welte) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 23:37:24 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] 32C3 Network setup In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20151219223724.GD6001@nataraja> Hi all, I will be there from some TBD time on the 26th onwards, but would prefer to focus on osmo-iuh hacking rather than building up the network. So I will be around and able to help if there's a real shortage of hands. In terms of equipment, I will try to make sure that on Monday the sysmocom team is packing everything we have in terms of the usual 'devices used on events'. Once that has been packed, we should know exactly what is brougth along. 33C3 SIM cards are scheduled to arrive on monday, too. -- - Harald Welte http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ ============================================================================ "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) From horiz0n at gmx.net Sun Dec 20 07:19:41 2015 From: horiz0n at gmx.net (Dimitri Stolnikov) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2015 08:19:41 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] 32C3 Network setup In-Reply-To: <20151219223724.GD6001@nataraja> References: <20151219223724.GD6001@nataraja> Message-ID: Hi, i'll arrive on 26. in the morning and should be available from 9-10am or so... Best regards, Dimitri On Sat, 19 Dec 2015 23:37:24 +0100, Harald Welte wrote: > Hi all, > > I will be there from some TBD time on the 26th onwards, but would prefer > to focus on osmo-iuh hacking rather than building up the network. > > So I will be around and able to help if there's a real shortage of > hands. > > In terms of equipment, I will try to make sure that on Monday the > sysmocom team is packing everything we have in terms of the usual > 'devices used on events'. Once that has been packed, we should know > exactly what is brougth along. > > 33C3 SIM cards are scheduled to arrive on monday, too. From kevredon at mail.tsaitgaist.info Sun Dec 20 07:34:44 2015 From: kevredon at mail.tsaitgaist.info (=?iso-8859-1?Q?K=E9vin?= Redon) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2015 08:34:44 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] 32C3 Network setup In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20151220073444.GA25021@coil> I'll be there on the 26th in the evening an available for setup. kevin On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 11:19:48PM +0100, Sylvain Munaut wrote: > Hi everyone, > > > Can I get a show of hands of people that can help setup the network at > this CCC event ? Just to get an idea who's there and available to > help. > > Pesonally I'll get to the venue on the 25th evening and I'll be > available all 26th for setup. > > > > Cheers, > > Sylvain From osmocom at ngolde.de Sun Dec 20 11:37:13 2015 From: osmocom at ngolde.de (Nico Golde) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2015 12:37:13 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] 32C3 Network setup In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20151220113713.GB97024@coredump> Hi, * Sylvain Munaut <246tnt at gmail.com> [2015-12-19 23:27]: > Can I get a show of hands of people that can help setup the network at > this CCC event ? Just to get an idea who's there and available to > help. I'll arrive late on the 26th. If there's still help needed in the evening, I'm happy to help! I'll definitely come by and see if you still need help. Otherwise I'm not sure how much time I'll have during the conference. Cheers, Nico -- Nico Golde - XMPP: nion at jabber.ccc.de - GPG: 0xA0A0AAAA -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: not available URL: From holger at freyther.de Sat Dec 26 17:01:25 2015 From: holger at freyther.de (Holger Freyther) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 18:01:25 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] USIM + STK support at 32C3 Message-ID: <75B8796A-58D8-443D-A573-28AF57AF75BA@freyther.de> Hi, the SIM cards we started distributing at 31C3 (and then the camp and now the 32C3) support the SIM Toolkit. Last year Dieter (!) has modified the shady tools to install STKs app either through a PCSC reader or print SMPP snippets that can be send as a SMS. I have now published the hello-stk[1] and the sim-tools[2] and written and verified a small wiki page[3]. The wiki of events.ccc.de is down right now but what we would need is: * Get users to know their KIC1/KID1 + token(e.g. ICCID?) * Get users to be able to send their applet (hex + the token)? My approach would be: * Configure a destination number/ESME that is routed to a python script that includes the IMSI as the standard osmocom vendor extension and then send a message back (and let it queue at the nitb) * Create a second part that has a webform that takes the token + hex and then creates a DeliverSM message and asks NITB to send it by IMSI (if we support it). * Get someone from "outside" build it. holger [1] http://git.osmocom.org/sim/hello-stk/ [2] http://git.osmocom.org/sim/sim-tools/ [3] https://openbsc.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/shadysim.py From 246tnt at gmail.com Thu Dec 31 20:44:17 2015 From: 246tnt at gmail.com (Sylvain Munaut) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2015 21:44:17 +0100 Subject: [osmocom-event-orga] Thinkpad supply Message-ID: PSA If anyone that was in the GSM room is missing a thinkpad supply, Marcus Muller (funkylab on irc) might be able to help. Cheers, Sylvain