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<p>Hi Matt,<br>
<br>
On Tue, May 08, 2018 at 10:25:54AM +1000, Matt Ames matt.ames7bc@gmail.com [op25-dev] wrote:<br>
<br>
> Since Yahoo is now holding us back from being properly "open" with the<br>
> mailing lists, I too am in favour of a migration to an lists.osmocom.org<br>
> mailing list. <br>
<br>
Seems like you indeed have a very good reason to migrate away.<br>
<br>
> If there is any way we can migrate the entire message history<br>
> from Yahoo into an osmocom list, that would be great too, but of course<br>
> it's not totally necessary.<br>
<br>
The history 2012 through present (while I've been subscribed) is already imported:<br>
http://lists.osmocom.org/pipermail/op25-dev/<br>
<br>
Admittedly, the pipermail web interface is pretty abysimal, but once we update<br>
to mailman3, we will get hyperkitty and a much nicer user interface, also for<br>
the old archives.<br>
<br>
If anyone has mbox/maildir format archives from 2008 to 2012, I'm happy to<br>
import them into this archive, too. Feel free contact me off-list about this.<br>
<br>
> "Max" branch - This is a problem that we have spoken about previously and<br>
> didn't find a solution for. Ideally, I think that new features and code<br>
> should end up in the mater branch on the osmocom git repo. This way, it's<br>
> in a single place, it's obvious what it's there for (master being the main<br>
> central repo) and there's no confusion. I think we would need two things -<br>
> away we can add developers ssh keys to the osmocom git repo, and also a way<br>
> to have a pull request type feature where other developers can submit their<br>
> code, and have say, Max, or someone look at the changes and them merge them<br>
> in. <br>
<br>
This is what we use gerrit for in other osmocom projects, see<br>
https://gerrit.osmocom.org/<br>
<br>
gerrit was (I believe) originally developed by the Google Android folks for<br>
code review / merging in their Android OS development universe, but has meanwhile<br>
been used by many other projects. For example, Wireshark is also using it,<br>
see code.wireshark.org.<br>
<br>
In order to use gerrit, we have to change the configuration of your git.osmocom.org<br>
repository, so that:<br>
* [only] gerrit will push to git.osmocom.org<br>
* all developers need to push their changes to gerrit.osmocom.org,<br>
the setup is described at http://osmocom.org/projects/cellular-infrastructure/wiki/Gerrit<br>
<br>
The nice part about gerrit is that it will manage<br>
* subsequent updates / versions of patch sets<br>
* structured way for anyone to comment on changes and provide feedback<br>
* maintaners have the magic "+2" permission that makes a change eligible for merge<br>
* integration with build-testing / continuous integration (https://jenkins.osmocom.org/)<br>
to make sure only patches that build will be merged.<br>
<br>
Literally anyone in the general public can register an account on<br>
gerrit.osmocom.org and start to push changes to gerrit, so there's no<br>
"manual adding SSH keys" or "manual creation of accounts" required.<br>
Still, the setup with the Change-ID pre-commit hook (see the page above)<br>
is something that must be done once by every contributor.<br>
<br>
If you don't like gerrit, we can also think of alternatives. If you want to go<br>
for github, you can also do that, we'd then simply set up git.osmocom.org to mirror<br>
the github repo. I personally have a certain dislike/distrust against proprietary<br>
software-as-a-service operators, and prefer to be self-hosting. But then, my<br>
choice shouldn't restrict what you guys in OP25 would want to do<br>
<br>
> * Lastly - are there any IRC channels that we could contribute to? <br>
<br>
A number of people from the other osmocom sister projects hang out on<br>
#osmocom on freenode.net.<br>
<br>
> Or any other forums for this type of thing that might help us communicate the<br>
> project status better? It sounds like this is really where we're falling<br>
> down, as I know for a fact that the features and abilities of OP25 are some<br>
> of the best available - for example the QPSK receiver works just as well as<br>
> a commercial P25 radio, and it absolutely kills any commercial P25 scanner.<br>
<br>
>From my experience, conference talks/slides/videos also help a lot in<br>
spreading knowledge. So it may make sense to present about your work at<br>
some conference where it's on-topic, like OsmoDevCon, grcon, or any HAM<br>
radio related event?<br>
<br>
Keeping the wiki updated is also important. The public mailing list<br>
also will help people to see that there's activity going on. You could<br>
blog about your progress (We can aggregate that on planet.osmocom.org).<br>
You could use the "News" feature of the redmine project to post updates,<br>
too.<br>
<br>
> Oh, also, yes the OP25 core contributors are spread out all around the<br>
> globe - unfortunately getting to Europe is a little tricky!<br>
<br>
Sure, I know we're not the center of the world, even though many maps<br>
are drawn that way ;)<br>
<br>
-- <br>
- Harald Welte <laforge@gnumonks.org> http://laforge.gnumonks.org/<br>
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