From 246tnt at gmail.com  Wed Jan  1 19:03:24 2014
From: 246tnt at gmail.com (Sylvain Munaut)
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 20:03:24 +0100
Subject: GMR Standard for Inmarsat
In-Reply-To: <CAOgT0tdOesRUrVGNZhccTpE_St-mwXEuM_GiyH5PamcxsGtJ0Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOgT0tdOesRUrVGNZhccTpE_St-mwXEuM_GiyH5PamcxsGtJ0Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHL+j08Xs9Uo04iyQ1vdQ-j4LGC965sRfpfCS8ab3YE_MsUEww@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

> Sorry to bother you considering how precious the time is for you
> professionals but i want some guidance from you. Sir/Madam i want to
> learn about GMR standard for Inmarsat, its frame structure, channel
> coding (FEC), ETSI Standard (GMR 1 or GMR 2) etc. Actually i want to
> learn about how to decode Inmarsat data.

AFAICT only the iSatPhone Pro service is documented publically. It
should be the GMR-2 specification, freely available from ETSI under
"TS 101 377"

That's all I know about Inmarsat. All their other services are not
publically documented under any standard.

Cheers,

    Sylvain Munaut



From laforge at gnumonks.org  Sun Jan 12 18:53:26 2014
From: laforge at gnumonks.org (Harald Welte)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 19:53:26 +0100
Subject: [RFC] [ADMIN] Making lists subscriber-only?
Message-ID: <20140112185326.GU23594@nataraja>

Dear all,

so far the osmocom.org mailing lists have always been in a 'non-members
are manually moderated' mode.  This has created a lot of work for manual
list moderation, where a lot of the messages caught are simply spam, and
only the occasional valid message is being received.

I'd like to thank the list moderators for taking care of this.

However, in more recent discussions, we were considering to move the
lists to a completely closed mode, i.e. postings would automatically be
rejected from non-members.

The automatic response would contain a description of how to subscribe
in 'nomail' mode, i.e. to subscribe in a way to be able to post to the
list, while still not receiving any incoming traffic.  The latter should
be fine for occasional posters who don't want the bulk e-mail that goes
with a full/regular subscription.

Please provide feedback in case you disagree with that change.  Unless
there is major opposition, we will likely transition to the 'closed'
mode within one month.

Thanks,
	Harald

-- 
- Harald Welte <laforge at gnumonks.org>           http://laforge.gnumonks.org/
============================================================================
"Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option."
                                                  (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6)
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From kaber at trash.net  Sun Jan 12 19:38:55 2014
From: kaber at trash.net (Patrick McHardy)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 19:38:55 +0000
Subject: [RFC] [ADMIN] Making lists subscriber-only?
In-Reply-To: <20140112185326.GU23594@nataraja>
References: <20140112185326.GU23594@nataraja>
Message-ID: <20140112193855.GB13545@macbook.localnet>

On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 07:53:26PM +0100, Harald Welte wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> so far the osmocom.org mailing lists have always been in a 'non-members
> are manually moderated' mode.  This has created a lot of work for manual
> list moderation, where a lot of the messages caught are simply spam, and
> only the occasional valid message is being received.
> 
> I'd like to thank the list moderators for taking care of this.
> 
> However, in more recent discussions, we were considering to move the
> lists to a completely closed mode, i.e. postings would automatically be
> rejected from non-members.
> 
> The automatic response would contain a description of how to subscribe
> in 'nomail' mode, i.e. to subscribe in a way to be able to post to the
> list, while still not receiving any incoming traffic.  The latter should
> be fine for occasional posters who don't want the bulk e-mail that goes
> with a full/regular subscription.
> 
> Please provide feedback in case you disagree with that change.  Unless
> there is major opposition, we will likely transition to the 'closed'
> mode within one month.

For the dect list I'm all in favour of this. There's very low traffic
and almost only spam.

Cheers,
Patrick



From holger at freyther.de  Sun Jan 12 19:55:41 2014
From: holger at freyther.de (Holger Hans Peter Freyther)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 20:55:41 +0100
Subject: [RFC] [ADMIN] Making lists subscriber-only?
In-Reply-To: <20140112185326.GU23594@nataraja>
References: <20140112185326.GU23594@nataraja>
Message-ID: <20140112195541.GJ9767@xiaoyu.lan>

On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 07:53:26PM +0100, Harald Welte wrote:
> Dear all,

Good Evening,

> Please provide feedback in case you disagree with that change.  Unless
> there is major opposition, we will likely transition to the 'closed'
> mode within one month.

when I think I make a one time contribution I use the gmane.org service
a lot. On some mailinglists the patch/email sent i just dropped and will
never arrive at the mailinglist.

If we could find a 'closed' but gmane for posting will still work kind
of solution that would be super.

holger



From nikos.balkanas at eyeonix.com  Mon Jan 13 10:12:01 2014
From: nikos.balkanas at eyeonix.com (Nikos Balkanas)
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:12:01 +0200
Subject: [RFC] [ADMIN] Making lists subscriber-only?
In-Reply-To: <20140112185326.GU23594@nataraja>
References: <20140112185326.GU23594@nataraja>
Message-ID: <CAAdsYnb2YLJbiEqkAWPntB-uZ58SGCN_ucw85thx63TLY3CADw@mail.gmail.com>

I, for one, agree totally. Not that i have received *any* spam from this
list, but your proposal makes sense. Not that would stop spam, though, they
do fake addresses sometimes :-( But because that's how all of the lists,
that I know of, work.

PS You didn't specify for "personal" feedback, so I am replying to the
lists, many of whom I am not a member. Hope it is not considered spam ;-)

BR,
Nikos


On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Harald Welte <laforge at gnumonks.org> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> so far the osmocom.org mailing lists have always been in a 'non-members
> are manually moderated' mode.  This has created a lot of work for manual
> list moderation, where a lot of the messages caught are simply spam, and
> only the occasional valid message is being received.
>
> I'd like to thank the list moderators for taking care of this.
>
> However, in more recent discussions, we were considering to move the
> lists to a completely closed mode, i.e. postings would automatically be
> rejected from non-members.
>
> The automatic response would contain a description of how to subscribe
> in 'nomail' mode, i.e. to subscribe in a way to be able to post to the
> list, while still not receiving any incoming traffic.  The latter should
> be fine for occasional posters who don't want the bulk e-mail that goes
> with a full/regular subscription.
>
> Please provide feedback in case you disagree with that change.  Unless
> there is major opposition, we will likely transition to the 'closed'
> mode within one month.
>
> Thanks,
>         Harald
>
> --
> - Harald Welte <laforge at gnumonks.org>
> http://laforge.gnumonks.org/
>
> ============================================================================
> "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option."
>                                                   (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch.
> A6)
>
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From edoardo.rispoli at gmail.com  Mon Jan 13 22:46:47 2014
From: edoardo.rispoli at gmail.com (Edoardo Rispoli)
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 23:46:47 +0100
Subject: [RFC] [ADMIN] Making lists subscriber-only?
In-Reply-To: <20140112185326.GU23594@nataraja>
References: <20140112185326.GU23594@nataraja>
Message-ID: <CACZOaf7uLu8oNewFFn+xoAeN2FvDfAo+1epFuiVZ81idEacG1g@mail.gmail.com>

ok for the closed mode !

73 IW3BTI


2014/1/12 Harald Welte <laforge at gnumonks.org>

> Dear all,
>
> so far the osmocom.org mailing lists have always been in a 'non-members
> are manually moderated' mode.  This has created a lot of work for manual
> list moderation, where a lot of the messages caught are simply spam, and
> only the occasional valid message is being received.
>
> I'd like to thank the list moderators for taking care of this.
>
> However, in more recent discussions, we were considering to move the
> lists to a completely closed mode, i.e. postings would automatically be
> rejected from non-members.
>
> The automatic response would contain a description of how to subscribe
> in 'nomail' mode, i.e. to subscribe in a way to be able to post to the
> list, while still not receiving any incoming traffic.  The latter should
> be fine for occasional posters who don't want the bulk e-mail that goes
> with a full/regular subscription.
>
> Please provide feedback in case you disagree with that change.  Unless
> there is major opposition, we will likely transition to the 'closed'
> mode within one month.
>
> Thanks,
>         Harald
>
> --
> - Harald Welte <laforge at gnumonks.org>
> http://laforge.gnumonks.org/
>
> ============================================================================
> "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option."
>                                                   (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch.
> A6)
>
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From stevie.glass at gmail.com  Tue Jan 14 08:21:06 2014
From: stevie.glass at gmail.com (Steve Glass)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 18:21:06 +1000
Subject: [RFC] [ADMIN] Making lists subscriber-only?
In-Reply-To: <20140112185326.GU23594@nataraja>
References: <20140112185326.GU23594@nataraja>
Message-ID: <52D4F372.8010403@gmail.com>

Hi

Closed lists will just be more efficient. If the bounce message is clear
then most genuine contributors will get that and respond appropriately.

I've only dealt with one real, actual problem as a moderator and it was
purely accidental that the offender wasn't a subscriber and I was able
to catch it. We should expect some spammers to join but even this hurdle
will eliminate the majority and we can boot any subscribed spammers
quite quickly.

ATB

Stevie



From e_tews at seceng.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de  Wed Jan 15 08:28:34 2014
From: e_tews at seceng.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de (Erik Tews)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 09:28:34 +0100
Subject: [RFC] [ADMIN] Making lists subscriber-only?
In-Reply-To: <20140112185326.GU23594@nataraja>
References: <20140112185326.GU23594@nataraja>
Message-ID: <1389774514.6112.2.camel@lima>

Am Sonntag, den 12.01.2014, 19:53 +0100 schrieb Harald Welte:
> Dear all,
> 
> so far the osmocom.org mailing lists have always been in a 'non-members
> are manually moderated' mode.  This has created a lot of work for manual
> list moderation, where a lot of the messages caught are simply spam, and
> only the occasional valid message is being received.
> 
> I'd like to thank the list moderators for taking care of this.
> 
> However, in more recent discussions, we were considering to move the
> lists to a completely closed mode, i.e. postings would automatically be
> rejected from non-members.
> 
> The automatic response would contain a description of how to subscribe
> in 'nomail' mode, i.e. to subscribe in a way to be able to post to the
> list, while still not receiving any incoming traffic.  The latter should
> be fine for occasional posters who don't want the bulk e-mail that goes
> with a full/regular subscription.
> 
> Please provide feedback in case you disagree with that change.  Unless
> there is major opposition, we will likely transition to the 'closed'
> mode within one month.

Hi

The only disadvantage I can see is, that you cannot simply CC the list,
when you get a question to your personal address, that might be
interesting for the list. Your mail will still get through, but the next
reply will not make it to the list.

But that is quiet acceptable, compared to a lot of spam being send to
such lists.

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From ssadi_14 at hotmail.com  Wed Jan 15 06:56:51 2014
From: ssadi_14 at hotmail.com (sadi 1)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 11:56:51 +0500
Subject: gmr Receive Error
Message-ID: <COL129-W4261D0FA61BCFA85DB1EE7F9BE0@phx.gbl>

Hi all, I am zia. I successfully installed softwares Uhd_003.006.002/GNU Radio 3.6.5.1/Boost 1.43.1 and gmr on Ubuntu 12.04,but when i run signal capturing command I receive no file at output:

//*********************************************************************//
zia:~/osmo-gmr/utils/gmr_multi_rx$ sudo ./gmr_multi_rx --gmr1-dl 943 -a RX1 -S A:0 -T 10 --add=usrp2

linux; GNU C++ version 4.6.3; Boost_104601; UHD_003.006.002-rc2

    Given gmr1-dl ARFCNs:     943 = 1554.468750 MHz
    Required bandwidth is: 31.250000 kHz
    
    Creating the UHD device...

zia~/osmo-gmr/utils/gmr_multi_rx$

//*****************************************************************************//

(I am running USRP NI 2930)

Any help will be highly appreciated.

Thanxs
Zia

 		 	   		  
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From ssadi_14 at hotmail.com  Tue Jan 28 05:46:44 2014
From: ssadi_14 at hotmail.com (sadi 1)
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 10:46:44 +0500
Subject: Receiver Error
Message-ID: <COL129-W852499BD50AFA423996A45F9AD0@phx.gbl>

Hi,


I have resolve some of my previous issue and from few days i am stuck on following problem:
 
***********************************
root at sadi:/home/zia/osmo-gmr/utils/gmr_multi_rx# ./gmr_multi_rx --gmr1-dl 978 -a RX2 -S A:0 --addr=usrp2 -T 10 
linux; GNU C++ version 4.6.3; Boost_104601; UHD_003.006.002-rc2

Given gmr1-dl ARFCNs:
    978 = 1555.562500 MHz

Required bandwidth is: 31.250000 kHz

Creating the UHD device...
-- Opening a USRP2/N-Series device...
-- Current recv frame size: 1472 bytes
-- Current send frame size: 1472 bytes
-- Detecting internal GPSDO.... Found a Jackson Labs GPS

-- found
-- Detecting internal GPSDO.... Found a Jackson Labs GPS
-- found
-- Detecting internal GPSDO.... Found a Jackson Labs GPS
-- found
terminate called after throwing an instance of 'uhd::runtime_error'

  what():  RuntimeError: fifo ctrl timed out looking for acks
Aborted (core dumped)
root at sadi:/home/zia/osmo-gmr/utils/gmr_multi_rx# 

***********************************************************************************************


Going through GMR mailing list I have found that you posted same problem in Oct-2012.

I have follow the Mr,Sylvain advice and run uhd_fft utility, that is working fine and showing signal on screen.


Can u plz guide me how to resolve this issue.
(i am using Ubuntu 12.04 OS).

Thanxs
Zia 		 	   		  
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