From laforge at gnumonks.org  Wed Jul  3 01:18:44 2019
From: laforge at gnumonks.org (Harald Welte)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 09:18:44 +0800
Subject: [camp2019-village] Osmocom Village part of Singularity City / No
 extra tent
Message-ID: <20190703011844.GC11901@nataraja>

Sorry for the lack of responses here. Given the feedback received from the
Singularity City folks, I'm confident we won't need a separate tent and will
find sufficient space in their hackcenter tent.

So, the Osmocom village will be part of Singularity City and not rent a separate
tent.

Regards,
	Harald
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From laforge at gnumonks.org  Wed Jul 10 01:48:05 2019
From: laforge at gnumonks.org (Harald Welte)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 09:48:05 +0800
Subject: [camp2019-village] Singularity City self-organized workshops CfP
 extra tent
In-Reply-To: <20190703011844.GC11901@nataraja>
References: <20190703011844.GC11901@nataraja>
Message-ID: <20190710014805.GD3429@nataraja>

Singularity City has opened the CfP for self-organized workshops in their
dedicated workshop tent.  I've been asked to disribute the below link for
anyone interested in giving any workshops:

https://pad.stratum0.org/p/camp2019_cfp_workshops

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- Harald Welte <laforge at gnumonks.org>           http://laforge.gnumonks.org/
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From laforge at gnumonks.org  Fri Jul 12 08:01:39 2019
From: laforge at gnumonks.org (Harald Welte)
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 16:01:39 +0800
Subject: [camp2019-village] Singularity City tickets now available extra tent
In-Reply-To: <20190710014805.GD3429@nataraja>
References: <20190703011844.GC11901@nataraja> <20190710014805.GD3429@nataraja>
Message-ID: <20190712080139.GR3429@nataraja>

As we decided the Osmocom village will be part of Singularity City,
as citizens we're expected to pay our 'Village Share' for using their facilities
such as hack center tent/tables/chairs, breakfast, etc.

A [German] page with benefits we get in return is available at
https://singularitycity.de/kosten.html

We've been notified the related village share tickets can be obtained via
https://smaut.stratum0.org/sincity/village2019/ - however, it currently
doesn't work for me ("Internal Server Error We had trouble processing your request.")

Please make sure to obtain the related ticket. Thanks!

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- Harald Welte <laforge at gnumonks.org>           http://laforge.gnumonks.org/
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From philip at opensdr.com  Fri Jul 12 08:14:42 2019
From: philip at opensdr.com (Philip Balister)
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 10:14:42 +0200
Subject: [camp2019-village] Singularity City tickets now available extra
 tent
In-Reply-To: <20190712080139.GR3429@nataraja>
References: <20190703011844.GC11901@nataraja> <20190710014805.GD3429@nataraja>
 <20190712080139.GR3429@nataraja>
Message-ID: <0146F362-9576-4268-BAE4-5021359BCE98@opensdr.com>

I paid for the three of us coming from the US, I had an issue with errors, but careful reloading got me through the process. I do need to double check payment received though.

Philip


On July 12, 2019 10:01:39 AM GMT+02:00, Harald Welte <laforge at gnumonks.org> wrote:
>As we decided the Osmocom village will be part of Singularity City,
>as citizens we're expected to pay our 'Village Share' for using their
>facilities
>such as hack center tent/tables/chairs, breakfast, etc.
>
>A [German] page with benefits we get in return is available at
>https://singularitycity.de/kosten.html
>
>We've been notified the related village share tickets can be obtained
>via
>https://smaut.stratum0.org/sincity/village2019/ - however, it currently
>doesn't work for me ("Internal Server Error We had trouble processing
>your request.")
>
>Please make sure to obtain the related ticket. Thanks!
>
>-- 
>- Harald Welte <laforge at gnumonks.org>          
>http://laforge.gnumonks.org/
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From laforge at gnumonks.org  Wed Jul 17 23:31:59 2019
From: laforge at gnumonks.org (Harald Welte)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 01:31:59 +0200
Subject: [camp2019-village] Schedule information for build-up tent
In-Reply-To: <20190712080139.GR3429@nataraja>
References: <20190703011844.GC11901@nataraja> <20190710014805.GD3429@nataraja>
 <20190712080139.GR3429@nataraja>
Message-ID: <20190717233159.GZ3325@nataraja>

I've received this from the camp orga, and I'm passing it here:

======

we have an important information for you about the buildup timeline:
Build up for villages starts on 16.08.2019 14:00 CEST
Before that date, village buildup is not possible.

Please keep in mind the proposed timeline: [1] https://events.ccc.de/camp/2019/wiki/Timeline/
14.8: Buildup: Only for angels who help with buildup and registered at the orga- or angelsystem with their
dates
16.8: 14:00 CEST: People can start to buildup their villages, no power or net yet
19.8: Power is probably(!) available from now21.8Offical start of the CCCamp19 \o/
25.8: Last day of the CCCamp19, start of disassembly in the evening (leaving with a vehicle which is part
of a village might not be possible yet)
28.8: Last day of disassembly, all must be finished no later than this day. If you stay 27th/28th, you are
expected to help out!

======

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From laforge at gnumonks.org  Mon Jul 29 18:55:29 2019
From: laforge at gnumonks.org (Harald Welte)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 20:55:29 +0200
Subject: [camp2019-village] Osmocom Village at CCC Camp 2019
In-Reply-To: <20190729151211.GB8364@my.box>
References: <20190621165404.GU25425@nataraja>
 <20190729151211.GB8364@my.box>
Message-ID: <20190729185528.GH23630@nataraja>

Hi Neels,

On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 05:12:11PM +0200, Neels Hofmeyr wrote:
> I am noting possible duplication in effort preparing the camp as well as
> digital infrastructure.  Apparently bibor and lynxis aim to manage wiki etc on
> code.fe80.eu and the event-orga ML, and Osmocom to be part of the Singularity
> City. In contrast, this Osmocom Village mail seems to suggest a separate
> village and wiki+ML. I also at some point noted separate efforts made by
> different people for setting up a large Osmocom tent, IIUC.

I think the "problem" here is that we have two disjunct communities:

1) The wider "Osmocom and friends" community, consisting of people related to
   Osmocom projects unrelated to GSM/cellular, but even reaching into the gnuradio
   crowd, who had historically also been sharing the Osmocom village.  This is about
   bringing together people working on various SDR / communications related topics
   for "hanging out, chatting, ...".  As I wrote before, people have reached out to
   me about this for months.

2) The "post LaF0rge" team operating the 2G/3G network at CCC events.  I see that
   as a rather "production oriented" team which has to work closely with the POC,
   etc. and which shouldn't be bothered/distracted by people who are not
   involved in that.

> I'm not sure how to consolidate, but I get the strong feeling that bibor,
> lynxis and laforge should talk about the camp preparations to avoid "aneinander
> vorbeireden", confusion and redundant efforts ... ?

I'm always open to discuss, but after months of public posts on this
ando ther mailing lists, I'm not sure what there is to add.  In short:

* both villages are now part of Singularity City
* Osmocom Village has no separate tent/infrastructure but people will
  hang out at the singularity city hackcenter.

Regards,
	Harald
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From lynxis at fe80.eu  Wed Jul 31 16:02:42 2019
From: lynxis at fe80.eu (Alexander Couzens)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 18:02:42 +0200
Subject: [camp2019-village] [osmocom-event-orga] Osmocom Village at CCC
 Camp 2019
In-Reply-To: <20190729185528.GH23630@nataraja>
References: <20190621165404.GU25425@nataraja> <20190729151211.GB8364@my.box>
 <20190729185528.GH23630@nataraja>
Message-ID: <20190731180242.6db0a0f9@lazus.yip>

Hi Neels,

> * both villages are now part of Singularity City
> * Osmocom Village has no separate tent/infrastructure but people will
>   hang out at the singularity city hackcenter.

I agree with Harald that both villages have different needs.

The GSM/3G village needs place and time to build the network up and tear
down. If the network doesn't work, we like to have a quiet tent to fix
everything. But if everything works, we also like to hack and chill.

IMHO: The main reason for 2 villages was the lack of time to organize
it together, at least I can say it for my side.

I hope we will be at the same table hacking, drinking mate and
having fun! I see the GSM/3G team as part of the osmocom community and
hope everybody feels invited to join the GSM/3G team.

Have a nice camp,
lynxis
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