From martian at seznam.cz Wed Mar 14 14:54:43 2012 From: martian at seznam.cz (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Martin_Janovsk=FD?=) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 15:54:43 +0100 Subject: Use OsmocomBB as OpenBTS / airprobe clock generator In-Reply-To: <4D39B891.3070306@steve-m.de> References: <20100410214745.GB3284@prithivi.gnumonks.org> <4BC1099B.8070504@steve-m.de> <20100411053705.GF3284@prithivi.gnumonks.org> <4BC1F0D1.5010809@steve-m.de> <4D39B891.3070306@steve-m.de> Message-ID: <4F60B133.60808@seznam.cz> Hi guys, I'd like to build a test scenario for my thesis based on a Motorola C123 and a PLL such as this http://search.digikey.com/us/en/products/ICS501MLFT/800-1036-1-ND/1916104 Like this, I'd feed the multiplied clock to a USRP1 to run OpenBTS reliably. Would you help me choose the correct PLL if you understand the topic? I have little experience with circuit design. Regards, Martin Janovsk? Dne 21.1.2011 17:47, Steve Markgraf napsal(a): > Hi, > > On 11.04.2010 17:54, Steve Markgraf wrote: > >>> The third one is MCLK, i.e. the clock that the Calypos PLL feeds into >>> the ARM core. >> Ah, okay. But this one isn't accessible on all currently known phones >> anyway. > Just as an update on this idea: The Pirelli DP-L10 I have been playing > around with recently exposes the MCLK pin. > > I've added a summary in the wiki: > > http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/PirelliDPL10#Phoneasclockgenerator > > Regards, > Steve > > From 246tnt at gmail.com Wed Mar 14 15:14:53 2012 From: 246tnt at gmail.com (Sylvain Munaut) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 16:14:53 +0100 Subject: Use OsmocomBB as OpenBTS / airprobe clock generator In-Reply-To: <4F60B133.60808@seznam.cz> References: <20100410214745.GB3284@prithivi.gnumonks.org> <4BC1099B.8070504@steve-m.de> <20100411053705.GF3284@prithivi.gnumonks.org> <4BC1F0D1.5010809@steve-m.de> <4D39B891.3070306@steve-m.de> <4F60B133.60808@seznam.cz> Message-ID: Hi, > I'd like to build a test scenario for my thesis based on a Motorola C123 and > a PLL such as this > http://search.digikey.com/us/en/products/ICS501MLFT/800-1036-1-ND/1916104 > > Like this, I'd feed the multiplied clock to a USRP1 to run OpenBTS reliably. > Would you help me choose the correct PLL if you understand the topic? I have > little experience with circuit design. That PLL looks fine, should work AFAICT. Maybe just check the clock levels at the C123 output. If it's 2.5v logic you may need to manually bias the PLL clock input and AC feed the clock. Cheers, Sylvain From f.koliqi at gmail.com Wed Mar 14 18:33:47 2012 From: f.koliqi at gmail.com (Fadil Berisha) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:33:47 -0400 Subject: Use OsmocomBB as OpenBTS / airprobe clock generator In-Reply-To: <4F60B133.60808@seznam.cz> References: <20100410214745.GB3284@prithivi.gnumonks.org> <4BC1099B.8070504@steve-m.de> <20100411053705.GF3284@prithivi.gnumonks.org> <4BC1F0D1.5010809@steve-m.de> <4D39B891.3070306@steve-m.de> <4F60B133.60808@seznam.cz> Message-ID: Hi Martin, I'd like to suggest you to consider clock-tamer or new design as external clock for USRP - http://code.google.com/p/clock-tamer/ . It is open source software and hardware project and it is was specifically designed to be used with USRP. It is possible to use phone as external clock for openBTS, but except proof of concept, that solution does not have practical value. Regards Fadil On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Martin Janovsk? wrote: > Hi guys, > > I'd like to build a test scenario for my thesis based on a Motorola C123 and > a PLL such as this > http://search.digikey.com/us/en/products/ICS501MLFT/800-1036-1-ND/1916104 > > Like this, I'd feed the multiplied clock to a USRP1 to run OpenBTS reliably. > Would you help me choose the correct PLL if you understand the topic? I have > little experience with circuit design. > > Regards, > > Martin Janovsk? > > > Dne 21.1.2011 17:47, Steve Markgraf napsal(a): > >> Hi, >> >> On 11.04.2010 17:54, Steve Markgraf wrote: >> >>>> The third one is MCLK, i.e. the clock that the Calypos PLL feeds into >>>> the ARM core. >>> >>> Ah, okay. But this one isn't accessible on all currently known phones >>> anyway. >> >> Just as an update on this idea: The Pirelli DP-L10 I have been playing >> around with recently exposes the MCLK pin. >> >> I've added a summary in the wiki: >> >> http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/PirelliDPL10#Phoneasclockgenerator >> >> Regards, >> Steve >> >> > From kheimerl at cs.berkeley.edu Wed Mar 14 22:03:48 2012 From: kheimerl at cs.berkeley.edu (Kurtis Heimerl) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 15:03:48 -0700 Subject: Use OsmocomBB as OpenBTS / airprobe clock generator In-Reply-To: References: <20100410214745.GB3284@prithivi.gnumonks.org> <4BC1099B.8070504@steve-m.de> <20100411053705.GF3284@prithivi.gnumonks.org> <4BC1F0D1.5010809@steve-m.de> <4D39B891.3070306@steve-m.de> <4F60B133.60808@seznam.cz> Message-ID: I think the osmocomBB signal generator would be a great idea; clock-tamers are significantly more expensive than calypso phones. 2012/3/14 Fadil Berisha : > Hi Martin, > > I'd like to suggest you to consider clock-tamer or new design as > external clock for USRP - ?http://code.google.com/p/clock-tamer/ . ?It > is open source software and hardware project and it is was > specifically designed to be used with USRP. It is possible to use > phone as external clock for openBTS, but except proof of concept, that > solution does not have practical value. > > Regards > > Fadil > > > > On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Martin Janovsk? wrote: >> Hi guys, >> >> I'd like to build a test scenario for my thesis based on a Motorola C123 and >> a PLL such as this >> http://search.digikey.com/us/en/products/ICS501MLFT/800-1036-1-ND/1916104 >> >> Like this, I'd feed the multiplied clock to a USRP1 to run OpenBTS reliably. >> Would you help me choose the correct PLL if you understand the topic? I have >> little experience with circuit design. >> >> Regards, >> >> Martin Janovsk? >> >> >> Dne 21.1.2011 17:47, Steve Markgraf napsal(a): >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> On 11.04.2010 17:54, Steve Markgraf wrote: >>> >>>>> The third one is MCLK, i.e. the clock that the Calypos PLL feeds into >>>>> the ARM core. >>>> >>>> Ah, okay. But this one isn't accessible on all currently known phones >>>> anyway. >>> >>> Just as an update on this idea: The Pirelli DP-L10 I have been playing >>> around with recently exposes the MCLK pin. >>> >>> I've added a summary in the wiki: >>> >>> http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/PirelliDPL10#Phoneasclockgenerator >>> >>> Regards, >>> Steve >>> >>> >> > From laforge at gnumonks.org Wed Mar 14 23:45:35 2012 From: laforge at gnumonks.org (Harald Welte) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 00:45:35 +0100 Subject: Use OsmocomBB as OpenBTS / airprobe clock generator In-Reply-To: References: <20100410214745.GB3284@prithivi.gnumonks.org> <4BC1099B.8070504@steve-m.de> <20100411053705.GF3284@prithivi.gnumonks.org> <4BC1F0D1.5010809@steve-m.de> <4D39B891.3070306@steve-m.de> <4F60B133.60808@seznam.cz> Message-ID: <20120314234535.GU7841@prithivi.gnumonks.org> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 03:03:48PM -0700, Kurtis Heimerl wrote: > I think the osmocomBB signal generator would be a great idea; > clock-tamers are significantly more expensive than calypso phones. I agree with Kurtis. In fact, I already tried to make such a circuit using a Ti CDCVF25084 some time ago, but it wasn't as straight-forwardd as I hoped and it was never completed :( -- - Harald Welte http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ ============================================================================ "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) From alexander.huemer at xx.vu Thu Mar 15 09:04:37 2012 From: alexander.huemer at xx.vu (Alexander Huemer) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 10:04:37 +0100 Subject: Use OsmocomBB as OpenBTS / airprobe clock generator In-Reply-To: <20120314234535.GU7841@prithivi.gnumonks.org> References: <20100410214745.GB3284@prithivi.gnumonks.org> <4BC1099B.8070504@steve-m.de> <20100411053705.GF3284@prithivi.gnumonks.org> <4BC1F0D1.5010809@steve-m.de> <4D39B891.3070306@steve-m.de> <4F60B133.60808@seznam.cz> <20120314234535.GU7841@prithivi.gnumonks.org> Message-ID: <20120315090436.GA1430@de.xx.vu> Hi Harald, On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 12:45:35AM +0100, Harald Welte wrote: > In fact, I already tried to make such a circuit using a Ti CDCVF25084 > some time ago, but it wasn't as straight-forwardd as I hoped and it was > never completed :( A while back there was a posting[1] on the OpenBTS ML that mentioned positive results using this exact PLL as clock input for a USRP. The posting itself does not contain the part#, but I remember to have read it in a follow up post or so. This setup did not use a phone as input to the PLL, but nevertheless used such a PLL to feed the USRP. Could you please elaborate on which problems you were facing? Kind regards, -Alexander Huemer [1] http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=24642256 [?] http://lists.osmocom.org/pipermail/baseband-devel/2010-April/000322.html From laforge at gnumonks.org Thu Mar 15 09:56:57 2012 From: laforge at gnumonks.org (Harald Welte) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 10:56:57 +0100 Subject: Use OsmocomBB as OpenBTS / airprobe clock generator In-Reply-To: <20120315090436.GA1430@de.xx.vu> References: <20100410214745.GB3284@prithivi.gnumonks.org> <4BC1099B.8070504@steve-m.de> <20100411053705.GF3284@prithivi.gnumonks.org> <4BC1F0D1.5010809@steve-m.de> <4D39B891.3070306@steve-m.de> <4F60B133.60808@seznam.cz> <20120314234535.GU7841@prithivi.gnumonks.org> <20120315090436.GA1430@de.xx.vu> Message-ID: <20120315095657.GB7841@prithivi.gnumonks.org> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:04:37AM +0100, Alexander Huemer wrote: > Could you please elaborate on which problems you were facing? I think it was mostly related to the levels and coupling, possibly combined with the 13 MHz signal being a sine wave and not square whihc I believe the TI PLL expects. It's probably 1.5 or 2 years since I tried that, I honestly don't remember the details. -- - Harald Welte http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ ============================================================================ "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) From alexander.huemer at xx.vu Thu Mar 15 10:51:06 2012 From: alexander.huemer at xx.vu (Alexander Huemer) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 11:51:06 +0100 Subject: Use OsmocomBB as OpenBTS / airprobe clock generator In-Reply-To: <20120315095657.GB7841@prithivi.gnumonks.org> References: <4BC1099B.8070504@steve-m.de> <20100411053705.GF3284@prithivi.gnumonks.org> <4BC1F0D1.5010809@steve-m.de> <4D39B891.3070306@steve-m.de> <4F60B133.60808@seznam.cz> <20120314234535.GU7841@prithivi.gnumonks.org> <20120315090436.GA1430@de.xx.vu> <20120315095657.GB7841@prithivi.gnumonks.org> Message-ID: <20120315105106.GB1430@de.xx.vu> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:56:57AM +0100, Harald Welte wrote: > I think it was mostly related to the levels and coupling, possibly > combined with the 13 MHz signal being a sine wave and not square whihc I > believe the TI PLL expects. As I understand the datasheet of the CDCVF25084 it can very well be the case that a sine wave input makes trouble. Assuming this is the case, could something like a Schmitt trigger between the sine wave source and the PLL improve the situation? Or would that add jitter or some other negative effects to the signal? Kind regards, -Alexander Huemer From vogelchr at vogel.cx Thu Mar 15 19:11:41 2012 From: vogelchr at vogel.cx (Christian Vogel) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 20:11:41 +0100 Subject: Use OsmocomBB as OpenBTS / airprobe clock generator In-Reply-To: <20120315105106.GB1430@de.xx.vu> References: <4BC1099B.8070504@steve-m.de> <20100411053705.GF3284@prithivi.gnumonks.org> <4BC1F0D1.5010809@steve-m.de> <4D39B891.3070306@steve-m.de> <4F60B133.60808@seznam.cz> <20120314234535.GU7841@prithivi.gnumonks.org> <20120315090436.GA1430@de.xx.vu> <20120315095657.GB7841@prithivi.gnumonks.org> <20120315105106.GB1430@de.xx.vu> Message-ID: Hi Alexander, On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 11:51:06 +0100, Alexander Huemer wrote: > Assuming this is the case, could something like a Schmitt trigger > between the sine wave source and the PLL improve the situation? > Or would that add jitter or some other negative effects to the signal? 74AC(T)04 are considered quite excellent input stages (or amplifiers for fanout) for timing signals. See, for example, this posting on the "time-nuts" mailinglist (which is dedicated to precision frequency measurement/timekeeping): http://www.mail-archive.com/time-nuts at febo.com/msg26830.html With a feedback resistors (say, a few 10kOhm) and a series input capacitor (a few nF) the bias-DC of the input will automatically adjust to 1/2 duty cycle. Using anything more fancy, for example high-bandwidth comparators, is frowned upon. Chris From martian at seznam.cz Thu Mar 15 12:20:45 2012 From: martian at seznam.cz (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Martin_Janovsk=FD?=) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 13:20:45 +0100 Subject: Use OsmocomBB as OpenBTS / airprobe clock generator In-Reply-To: <20120314234535.GU7841@prithivi.gnumonks.org> References: <20100410214745.GB3284@prithivi.gnumonks.org> <4BC1099B.8070504@steve-m.de> <20100411053705.GF3284@prithivi.gnumonks.org> <4BC1F0D1.5010809@steve-m.de> <4D39B891.3070306@steve-m.de> <4F60B133.60808@seznam.cz> <20120314234535.GU7841@prithivi.gnumonks.org> Message-ID: <4F61DE9D.5050804@seznam.cz> Thanks everyone for opinion. I'm going to pursue the idea as far as I can, welcoming your advice in the future. Price is my concern as well. The ClockTamer might be excellent but it's way over the top for me at the moment. There are 7E9 people in the world for a reason. Some of us can work on different problems than others. :) Dne 15.3.2012 00:45, Harald Welte napsal(a): > On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 03:03:48PM -0700, Kurtis Heimerl wrote: >> I think the osmocomBB signal generator would be a great idea; >> clock-tamers are significantly more expensive than calypso phones. > I agree with Kurtis. > > In fact, I already tried to make such a circuit using a Ti CDCVF25084 > some time ago, but it wasn't as straight-forwardd as I hoped and it was > never completed :( > From 246tnt at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 21:49:32 2012 From: 246tnt at gmail.com (Sylvain Munaut) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 22:49:32 +0100 Subject: [PATCH] Added option for mobile-app to bind to other interfaces than localhost. In-Reply-To: <20120221155537.GC29148@prithivi.gnumonks.org> References: <1329834754-4970-1-git-send-email-osmocom@ehlers.info> <20120221155537.GC29148@prithivi.gnumonks.org> Message-ID: > > I'm currently travelling and don't have time to test it right now. I > home one of the other developers with commit access will be able to try > it. > I rewrote the libosmocore patch to use socket.c helper code. Also updated libosmocore in osmocombb and merged Tim's patch. Cheers, Sylvain -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From GNUtoo at no-log.org Thu Mar 1 20:15:35 2012 From: GNUtoo at no-log.org (Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 21:15:35 +0100 Subject: [nuttx-bb] how to integrate nuttx-bb into upstream nuttx. In-Reply-To: <20120228230418.GB21122@prithivi.gnumonks.org> References: <201202282217.37832.GNUtoo@no-log.org> <20120228230418.GB21122@prithivi.gnumonks.org> Message-ID: <201203012115.35187.GNUtoo@no-log.org> >How did you do the analysis? Just by looking at the header of the file, >or actually analyzing the author name information in the git commit logs >of those files? The latter is probably more precise. Of course you can >skip any trivial one-line changes as they are not copyrightable. I just looked at the header, that was quicker. Denis. From laforge at gnumonks.org Thu Mar 1 21:11:37 2012 From: laforge at gnumonks.org (Harald Welte) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 22:11:37 +0100 Subject: [nuttx-bb] how to integrate nuttx-bb into upstream nuttx. In-Reply-To: <201203012115.35187.GNUtoo@no-log.org> References: <201202282217.37832.GNUtoo@no-log.org> <20120228230418.GB21122@prithivi.gnumonks.org> <201203012115.35187.GNUtoo@no-log.org> Message-ID: <20120301211137.GI21016@prithivi.gnumonks.org> Hi Denis, On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 09:15:35PM +0100, Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli wrote: > >How did you do the analysis? Just by looking at the header of the file, > >or actually analyzing the author name information in the git commit logs > >of those files? The latter is probably more precise. Of course you can > >skip any trivial one-line changes as they are not copyrightable. > > I just looked at the header, that was quicker. yes, but also much less precise. doing a git log on a file and grep'ing for the author like: git log --follow layer1/prim_fbsb.c | grep \^Auth | sort | uniq is not that hard. Of course it only works in a repository that has the complete history. Regards, Harald -- - Harald Welte http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ ============================================================================ "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) From peter at stuge.se Thu Mar 1 21:50:19 2012 From: peter at stuge.se (Peter Stuge) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 22:50:19 +0100 Subject: [nuttx-bb] how to integrate nuttx-bb into upstream nuttx. In-Reply-To: <20120301211137.GI21016@prithivi.gnumonks.org> References: <201202282217.37832.GNUtoo@no-log.org> <20120228230418.GB21122@prithivi.gnumonks.org> <201203012115.35187.GNUtoo@no-log.org> <20120301211137.GI21016@prithivi.gnumonks.org> Message-ID: <20120301215019.14297.qmail@stuge.se> Harald Welte wrote: > > I just looked at the header, that was quicker. > > yes, but also much less precise. doing a git log on a file and grep'ing > for the author like: > > git log --follow layer1/prim_fbsb.c | grep \^Auth | sort | uniq > > is not that hard. Of course it only works in a repository that has > the complete history. 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This is the uplink GSM ARFCN channel 70. It is possible ? Best Regards Carlos Cecanecchia Neto www.mobipower.com.br 55-11-3257.7736 New Picture (2) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 20048 bytes Desc: not available URL: From laforge at gnumonks.org Sun Mar 11 18:34:32 2012 From: laforge at gnumonks.org (Harald Welte) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 19:34:32 +0100 Subject: osmocom In-Reply-To: <002301ccff12$5f7fb180$1e7f1480$@com.br> References: <002301ccff12$5f7fb180$1e7f1480$@com.br> Message-ID: <20120311183432.GN25693@prithivi.gnumonks.org> Hi Carlos, On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 08:06:05PM -0300, Carlos Cecanecchia Neto wrote: > We are working in a project that uses a GSM modem to send a GMSK > beacom in 904 MHZ with 2W. Is this an free software / open source / open hardware project? > Visiting you site, we found a GSM RSSI software working in a phone. > Can we use it in 904 Mhz ? This is the uplink GSM ARFCN channel 70. > It is possible ? Yes, in general this is possible. You will have to remove the receive filter of the phone, as it is described in http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/Hardware/FilterReplacement and replace it with soem baluns. Please also note that the measurements at the moment are completely uncalibrated. If you need precision, I would suggest to calibrate each phone individually. -- - Harald Welte http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ ============================================================================ "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) From carlos at mobipower.com.br Sun Mar 11 20:36:03 2012 From: carlos at mobipower.com.br (Carlos Cecanecchia Neto) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:36:03 -0300 Subject: RES: osmocom In-Reply-To: <20120311183432.GN25693@prithivi.gnumonks.org> References: <002301ccff12$5f7fb180$1e7f1480$@com.br> <20120311183432.GN25693@prithivi.gnumonks.org> Message-ID: <000001ccffc6$96199c10$c24cd430$@com.br> Harald, No. This not a open hardware / open source project. It is for car localization, in case of jammer use, that blinds the GPRS modem. We tried to sniff that frequency, but was impossible, due the saw filters in the GPRS modems (that only allow the to receive the uplink channel), and for economic reasons. We to make a 20 units like this and we have a reduced budget. Do you think that is possible ? How much you think will cost a solution like that ? Regards Carlos Cecanecchia Neto www.mobipower.com.br 55-11-3257.7736 -----Mensagem original----- De: Harald Welte [mailto:laforge at gnumonks.org] Enviada em: domingo, 11 de mar?o de 2012 15:35 Para: Carlos Cecanecchia Neto Cc: baseband-devel at lists.osmocom.org Assunto: Re: osmocom Hi Carlos, On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 08:06:05PM -0300, Carlos Cecanecchia Neto wrote: > We are working in a project that uses a GSM modem to send a GMSK > beacom in 904 MHZ with 2W. Is this an free software / open source / open hardware project? > Visiting you site, we found a GSM RSSI software working in a phone. > Can we use it in 904 Mhz ? This is the uplink GSM ARFCN channel 70. > It is possible ? Yes, in general this is possible. You will have to remove the receive filter of the phone, as it is described in http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/Hardware/FilterReplacement and replace it with soem baluns. Please also note that the measurements at the moment are completely uncalibrated. If you need precision, I would suggest to calibrate each phone individually. -- - Harald Welte http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ ============================================================================ "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) From akibsayyed at gmail.com Mon Mar 12 12:51:06 2012 From: akibsayyed at gmail.com (Akib Sayyed) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:21:06 +0530 Subject: any one have clone of MTK project hosted on google Message-ID: guys i recently came across mobile-phone-mtk-project.googlecode.com but it seems to be down.does any one have copy of this one?? also can be create osmocom like project with help of MTK chipsets?? -- Akib Sayyed Matrix-Shell akibsayyed at gmail.com akibsayyed at matrixshell.com Mob:- +91-966-514-2243 From rm.engineer84 at gmail.com Wed Mar 14 17:41:11 2012 From: rm.engineer84 at gmail.com (R M) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 23:11:11 +0530 Subject: Video : Deepsec 2010 Targeted Dos Attack And Various Fun With Gsm Um Message-ID: Hi, I am looking for this video. I found it at the official Deepsec video archives. But you require to register to the video host site and I am unable to download it using wget Does any one know of any bit torrent site that has this video so that I can download it? Regards, RM From 246tnt at gmail.com Wed Mar 14 18:07:51 2012 From: 246tnt at gmail.com (Sylvain Munaut) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:07:51 +0100 Subject: Video : Deepsec 2010 Targeted Dos Attack And Various Fun With Gsm Um In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, > I am looking for this video. I found it at the official Deepsec video archives. > > But you require to register to the video host site and I am unable to > download it using wget > > Does any one know of any bit torrent site that has this video so that > I can download it? It's on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWXnHQiuoGA There are various plugins/addons for browsers that allow youtube download IIRC. Cheers, Sylvain From peter at stuge.se Wed Mar 14 18:10:18 2012 From: peter at stuge.se (Peter Stuge) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:10:18 +0100 Subject: Video : Deepsec 2010 Targeted Dos Attack And Various Fun With Gsm Um In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120314181018.6852.qmail@stuge.se> Sylvain Munaut wrote: > > I can download it? > > It's on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWXnHQiuoGA > > There are various plugins/addons for browsers that allow youtube > download IIRC. Try the youtube-dl script. //Peter From rm.engineer84 at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 04:54:48 2012 From: rm.engineer84 at gmail.com (R M) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 10:24:48 +0530 Subject: Video : Deepsec 2010 Targeted Dos Attack And Various Fun With Gsm Um In-Reply-To: <20120314181018.6852.qmail@stuge.se> References: <20120314181018.6852.qmail@stuge.se> Message-ID: Hi, Thanks a lot. I have downloaded the video Regards, RM On 3/14/12, Peter Stuge wrote: > Sylvain Munaut wrote: >> > I can download it? >> >> It's on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWXnHQiuoGA >> >> There are various plugins/addons for browsers that allow youtube >> download IIRC. > > Try the youtube-dl script. > > > //Peter > > From dave.meathead at googlemail.com Tue Mar 20 18:33:49 2012 From: dave.meathead at googlemail.com (David Bahr) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 19:33:49 +0100 Subject: Working with OpenBSC + Osmocon: Paging response fails to activate SDCCH Message-ID: Hi, Ive just setup an OpenBSC + nanoBTS environment to experiment around with your Osmocom software and a Motorola C123. I tried wo write a little application similiar to app_ccch scan, which is able of responding to paging requests by sending a rach request and the following paging response procedure. The rach access is working fine, but i cant get the paging response to work properly. The message itself is correct (layer2/layer3 parts) according to the specs. OpenBSC is also working correctly as it is working with my normal cell phone or your mobile application. What i'm doing in my code is the following: 1. After getting the immediate assignment i call l1ctl_tx_dm_est_req_h0 in l1ctl.c (l1ctl_tx_dm_est_req_h0(ms, arfcn, ia->chan_desc.chan_nr, ia->chan_desc.h0.tsc, GSM48_CMODE_SIGN, 0)) in order to tune to the assigned channel (or the h1 procedure for hopping). 2. Afterwards i build the paging response (layer2 + layer3), pad the msg and send it via osmo_send_l1(ms, msg) similiar to l1ctl_tx_data_req in l1ctl.c That it is not working can be seen in the OpenBSC abis debug output: <0004> abis_rsl.c:1318 (bts=0,trx=0,ts=0,ss=0) Activating ARFCN(514) SS(0) lctype SDCCH r=OTHER ra=0x67 ta=0 <0004> abis_rsl.c:1064 (bts=0,trx=0,ts=0,ss=0) CHANNEL ACTIVATE ACK <0004> abis_rsl.c:891 (bts=0,trx=0,ts=0,ss=0) CONNECTION FAIL: RELEASING CAUSE=0x01(Radio Link Failure) <0004> abis_rsl.c:621 (bts=0,trx=0,ts=0,ss=0) RF Channel Release CMD due error 1 <0004> abis_rsl.c:658 (bts=0,trx=0,ts=0,ss=0) RF CHANNEL RELEASE ACK <0004> abis_rsl.c:594 (bts=0,trx=0,ts=0,ss=0) is back in operation. It should be looking like this: <0004> abis_rsl.c:1318 (bts=0,trx=0,ts=0,ss=0) Activating ARFCN(514) SS(0) lctype SDCCH r=OTHER ra=0x10 ta=0 <0004> abis_rsl.c:1064 (bts=0,trx=0,ts=0,ss=0) CHANNEL ACTIVATE ACK <0000> abis_rsl.c:1490 (bts=0,trx=0,ts=0,ss=0) SAPI=0 ESTABLISH INDICATION <0003> gsm_04_08.c:1076 PAGING RESPONSE: mi_type=0x04 MI(...) Has anyone an idea what I'm doing wrong? Thanks in advance for any help! Best regards, David -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rm.engineer84 at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 05:01:47 2012 From: rm.engineer84 at gmail.com (R M) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 10:31:47 +0530 Subject: Frame Number--Paging Message-ID: Hi, Lately I have been looking at the GSM traffic through wireshark. In every packet, wireshark tells me about the frame number. But a paging message is spread over four frames. (You need to read four frames to get a single paging message.) So which among these four frames does the frame number displayed in wireshark correspond to for the paging message? Regards, RM From 246tnt at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 07:14:52 2012 From: 246tnt at gmail.com (Sylvain Munaut) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 08:14:52 +0100 Subject: Frame Number--Paging In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, > So which among these four frames does the frame number displayed in > wireshark correspond to for the paging message? I think we take the frame number of the first burst but I'm not sure ... In any case there can't be ambiguity because all the 4 bursts are always "aligned" on the multiframe. (See GSM 05.02 series for multiframe timings) Cheers, Sylvain From rm.engineer84 at gmail.com Sat Mar 24 16:22:20 2012 From: rm.engineer84 at gmail.com (R M) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 21:52:20 +0530 Subject: Frame Number--Paging In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, > ... In any case there can't be ambiguity because all the 4 bursts are > always "aligned" on the multiframe. (See GSM 05.02 series for > multiframe timings) As far as I understand, all the four burst are aligned on the frame if you are listening to C0T0. But paging bursts can also appear on C0T2, C0T4 and C0T6 depending on channel configuration. Regards, RM From rm.engineer84 at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 06:07:26 2012 From: rm.engineer84 at gmail.com (R M) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 11:37:26 +0530 Subject: GSM specs describing Random Access Procedure Message-ID: Hi, I want to understand the RACH channel acess procedure. I tried to search for it in google. It doesnt lead me to the right GSM spec. Does any one know which GSM spec details out the RACH link access procedure ? Regards, RM From dburgess at jcis.net Wed Mar 21 06:17:37 2012 From: dburgess at jcis.net (David A. Burgess) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 23:17:37 -0700 Subject: GSM specs describing Random Access Procedure In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: GSM 04.08 On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:07 PM, R M wrote: > Hi, > > I want to understand the RACH channel acess procedure. I tried to > search for it in google. It doesnt lead me to the right GSM spec. > > Does any one know which GSM spec details out the RACH link access procedure ? > > Regards, > RM From 246tnt at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 07:12:57 2012 From: 246tnt at gmail.com (Sylvain Munaut) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 08:12:57 +0100 Subject: GSM specs describing Random Access Procedure In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > GSM 04.08 And search for "CHANNEL REQUEST" because RACH is the name of the channel while CHANNEL REQUEST is the name of the message in them ... Cheers, Sylvain From kandanalor at googlemail.com Thu Mar 22 00:56:56 2012 From: kandanalor at googlemail.com (Dennis Weider) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 01:56:56 +0100 Subject: Problem building OsmocomBB Message-ID: Hi! I tried this tutorial to build my osmocomBB enviroment: http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/GettingStarted I downloaded the gnuarm toolchain from here: http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/toolchain I set the Path and i tried make, but it stops at > arm-elf-ld: ../../shared/libosmocore/build-target/src/.libs/libosmocore.a(msgb.o): Relocations in generic ELF (EM: 3) > ../../shared/libosmocore/build-target/src/.libs/libosmocore.a: could not read symbols: File in wrong format > make[1]: *** [board/compal_e88/hello_world.compalram.elf] Fehler 1 I found a similar Thread on the mailing list here: http://baseband-devel.722152.n3.nabble.com/unknown-error-td2758006.html#a2763434 But there is not a solution for the problem I would be happy if anybody would be able to giv a solution. MFG Kandanalor From kandanalor at googlemail.com Thu Mar 22 01:33:14 2012 From: kandanalor at googlemail.com (Dennis Weider) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 02:33:14 +0100 Subject: Problem building OsmocomBB In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Am 22. M?rz 2012 01:56 schrieb Dennis Weider : > Hi! > I tried this tutorial to build my osmocomBB enviroment: > http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/GettingStarted > I downloaded the gnuarm toolchain from here: > http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/toolchain > I set the Path and i tried make, but it stops at > >> arm-elf-ld: ../../shared/libosmocore/build-target/src/.libs/libosmocore.a(msgb.o): Relocations in generic ELF (EM: 3) >> ../../shared/libosmocore/build-target/src/.libs/libosmocore.a: could not read symbols: File in wrong format >> make[1]: *** [board/compal_e88/hello_world.compalram.elf] Fehler 1 > > I found a similar Thread on the mailing list here: > http://baseband-devel.722152.n3.nabble.com/unknown-error-td2758006.html#a2763434 > But there is not a solution for the problem > > I would be happy if anybody would be able to giv a solution. > MFG Kandanalor With help of the mailing list I realized that first time i tried to compile I hadn't my cross compiler in PATH. A "git clean -dfx" and "make" fixed the problem MFG Kandanalor From vogelchr at vogel.cx Sat Mar 24 18:02:29 2012 From: vogelchr at vogel.cx (Christian Vogel) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 19:02:29 +0100 Subject: Patch: use-before-free in config_write_file Message-ID: <20120324180228.GA7419@vogel.cx> Hi Everyone, while discussing config_file_write, I noticed that there's a use-after-free bug in libosmocore config_write_file. Chris From vogelchr at vogel.cx Sat Mar 24 17:58:28 2012 From: vogelchr at vogel.cx (Christian Vogel) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 18:58:28 +0100 Subject: [PATCH] Fix use-after-free in config_write_file Message-ID: --- src/vty/command.c | 13 ++++++------- 1 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-) diff --git a/src/vty/command.c b/src/vty/command.c index ab1eaca..b3595e5 100644 --- a/src/vty/command.c +++ b/src/vty/command.c @@ -2337,40 +2337,39 @@ DEFUN(config_write_file, vty_out(vty, "Can't unlink backup configuration file %s.%s", config_file_sav, VTY_NEWLINE); + unlink(config_file_tmp); talloc_free(config_file_sav); talloc_free(config_file_tmp); - unlink(config_file_tmp); return CMD_WARNING; } if (link(config_file, config_file_sav) != 0) { vty_out(vty, "Can't backup old configuration file %s.%s", config_file_sav, VTY_NEWLINE); + unlink(config_file_tmp); talloc_free(config_file_sav); talloc_free(config_file_tmp); - unlink(config_file_tmp); return CMD_WARNING; } + talloc_free(config_file_sav); /* we are done with config_file_sav by now */ sync(); + if (unlink(config_file) != 0) { vty_out(vty, "Can't unlink configuration file %s.%s", config_file, VTY_NEWLINE); - talloc_free(config_file_sav); - talloc_free(config_file_tmp); unlink(config_file_tmp); + talloc_free(config_file_tmp); return CMD_WARNING; } if (link(config_file_tmp, config_file) != 0) { vty_out(vty, "Can't save configuration file %s.%s", config_file, VTY_NEWLINE); - talloc_free(config_file_sav); - talloc_free(config_file_tmp); unlink(config_file_tmp); + talloc_free(config_file_tmp); return CMD_WARNING; } unlink(config_file_tmp); sync(); - talloc_free(config_file_sav); talloc_free(config_file_tmp); if (chmod(config_file, 0666 & ~CONFIGFILE_MASK) != 0) { -- 1.7.5.4 --n8g4imXOkfNTN/H1-- From vogelchr at vogel.cx Sat Mar 24 21:00:37 2012 From: vogelchr at vogel.cx (Christian Vogel) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 22:00:37 +0100 Subject: Patch: recreated the C64 font. In-Reply-To: <20120324180228.GA7419@vogel.cx> References: <20120324180228.GA7419@vogel.cx> Message-ID: <20120324210036.GA2017@vogel.cx> The C64 font was updated from the BDF fonts. Applications will have to be adapted to the changed base-line position (+2 pixels). The original font was aligned to the cell boundary, not to the bottom line of the actual characters. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 0001-Recreated-the-C64-font-using-bdf_to_c.py.patch Type: text/x-diff Size: 76022 bytes Desc: not available URL: From gouchengcheng at gmail.com Tue Mar 27 06:44:16 2012 From: gouchengcheng at gmail.com (gcc) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 23:44:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: about RACH DOS Message-ID: <1332830656390-3860492.post@n3.nabble.com> I am a student in a University studying on the security of GSM, recently I want use osmocomBB to realize the RACH DOS attack mentioned in Dieter Spaar`s speech. but I meet some difficulty. I do as follow: continuely sending RACH to a cell,and ignore the GSM48_MT_RR_IMM_ASS message ,also i lock my phone to the attacked cell,but after some time,the phone can still call to some phone ,why? can anyone help me? thanks! -- View this message in context: http://baseband-devel.722152.n3.nabble.com/about-RACH-DOS-tp3860492p3860492.html Sent from the baseband-devel mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From akibsayyed at gmail.com Tue Mar 27 10:45:49 2012 From: akibsayyed at gmail.com (Akib Sayyed) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:15:49 +0530 Subject: baseband-devel Digest, Vol 26, Issue 15 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: i am assuming that you are using one osmocom phone setup and one normal phone. try to do as follows take 3 osmocom phones then try dos with 2 phones and put sim in 3rd and lock to same arfcn and then see what happens. cheeers On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 3:30 PM, wrote: > Send baseband-devel mailing list submissions to > ? ? ? ?baseband-devel at lists.osmocom.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > ? ? ? ?https://lists.osmocom.org/mailman/listinfo/baseband-devel > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ? ? ? ?baseband-devel-request at lists.osmocom.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ? ? ? ?baseband-devel-owner at lists.osmocom.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of baseband-devel digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > ? 1. about RACH DOS (gcc) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From:?gcc > To:?baseband-devel at lists.osmocom.org > Cc: > Date:?Mon, 26 Mar 2012 23:44:16 -0700 (PDT) > Subject:?about RACH DOS > I am a student in a University studying on the security of GSM, recently I > want use osmocomBB to realize the RACH DOS attack mentioned in Dieter > Spaar`s speech. but I meet some difficulty. > > I do as follow: > > continuely ?sending RACH to a cell,and ?ignore the GSM48_MT_RR_IMM_ASS > message ,also i lock my phone to the attacked cell,but after some time,the > phone can still call to some phone ,why? > > can anyone help me? > > thanks! > > -- > View this message in context: http://baseband-devel.722152.n3.nabble.com/about-RACH-DOS-tp3860492p3860492.html > Sent from the baseband-devel mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > _______________________________________________ > baseband-devel mailing list > baseband-devel at lists.osmocom.org > https://lists.osmocom.org/mailman/listinfo/baseband-devel > -- Akib Sayyed Matrix-Shell akibsayyed at gmail.com akibsayyed at matrixshell.com Mob:- +91-966-514-2243 From saad.shafiq at and-or.com Wed Mar 28 05:32:01 2012 From: saad.shafiq at and-or.com (saad_aol) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:32:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: RSSI Firmware of OpenMoko GTA02 Message-ID: <1332912721795-3863628.post@n3.nabble.com> Hi; I am trying to run rssi.highram.bin on gta02(openmoko) following this [1] gta02 is running SHR-lite distro So far I have 1. cross-compiled rssi firmware using arm-elf- toolchain 2. cross-compiled osmocon for phone using arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi- [2] make -e CROSS_TOOL_PREFIX=arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi- HOST_CONFARGS="--host=armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi" 3. Make sure that nothing else is using /dev/ttySAC0 4. loaded rssi firmware on gta02 by running on gta02 ./osmocon -i 13 -m romload -p /dev/ttySAC0 rssi.highram.bin Firmware loads succesfully when I toggle power of baseband using echo 0 >/sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on && echo 1 >/sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on but it scans only ARFCN 1 :< SIM is present but since /dev/ttySAC0 is only claimed by osmocon, I dont think it can be used by ogsmd [1] http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/OpenMoko http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/OpenMoko [2] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain My QUESTIONS are: ================= 1. How can I Scan all ARFCN? 2. Can we use /dev/ttySAC0 for gsm & other things after the firmware is loaded on baseband? LOG FILE: http://baseband-devel.722152.n3.nabble.com/file/n3863628/log log -- View this message in context: http://baseband-devel.722152.n3.nabble.com/RSSI-Firmware-of-OpenMoko-GTA02-tp3863628p3863628.html Sent from the baseband-devel mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From alfonso.caponi at gmail.com Thu Mar 29 12:48:12 2012 From: alfonso.caponi at gmail.com (alfonso caponi) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 14:48:12 +0200 Subject: Syntax error - LIBOSMOCORE Message-ID: Hi list, sorry for this tedious question. I've already read a previous post about my problem but has not been useful ( http://lists.osmocom.org/pipermail/baseband-devel/2011-October/002351.html). I've this error after the make: checking for ranlib... ranlib ./configure: line 3508: syntax error near unexpected token `LIBOSMOCORE,' ./configure: line 3508: `PKG_CHECK_MODULES(LIBOSMOCORE, libosmocore)' make: *** [host/layer23/Makefile] Error 2 My settings with the last versions of sources: - Linux ubuntu 2.6.38-11-generic-pae #50-Ubuntu SMP Mon Sep 12 22:21:04 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux - PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/root/cell_logger/tool-chain/install/bin - arm-elf-gcc -v (installed with http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/GnuArmToolchain) Using built-in specs. 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Cheers, Sylvain From coinchon at yahoo.com Thu Mar 29 14:20:25 2012 From: coinchon at yahoo.com (Mathias Coinchon) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 07:20:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Call for participation LSM/RMLL In-Reply-To: <1333018174.33900.YahooMailNeo@web39306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1333018174.33900.YahooMailNeo@web39306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1333030825.76488.YahooMailNeo@web39305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear Osmocom community, This email to inform you that the call for participation for the next Libre Software Meeting (LSM or RMLL: Rencontres Mondiales du Logiciel Libre) ends on 31st March: http://2012.rmll.info/en/participate/call-for-papers This edition will take place in Geneva from 7th to 12th July 2012 (7-8 general public days, 9-12 theme focused, professional).? It would be of great interest for the communities to learn about the Osmocom projects in presentations or workshop. Real world applications would be interesting too. So please don't hesitate to directly submit. 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For the first half there is a long list of topics intended at informing people about the status and capabilities of the respective projects: OsmocomBB, OsmoTETRA, OsmoGMR, SIMtrace, etc. Regarding the venue, I would suggest to hold it at the Berlin CCC. What do you generally think about this? What day of the week should we be aiming at? Tuesday and Thursday is generally not a good idea, as those are already occupied with other events. If you think it's a good idea, I would request/register the event with the CCC Berlin. Regards, Harald -- - Harald Welte http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ ============================================================================ "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) From peter at stuge.se Thu Mar 29 19:41:20 2012 From: peter at stuge.se (Peter Stuge) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 21:41:20 +0200 Subject: Regular Osmocom meeting in Berlin? In-Reply-To: <20120329152016.GN19456@prithivi.gnumonks.org> References: <20120329152016.GN19456@prithivi.gnumonks.org> Message-ID: <20120329194120.30742.qmail@stuge.se> Harald Welte wrote: > I was pondering to start a regular Osmocom meeting (monthly or > bi-weekly) in Berlin. .. > What do you generally think about this? I say go for it. Bi-weekly sounds good. > What day of the week should we be aiming at? I like Wednesday. //Peter From t-openbsc at tobias.org Fri Mar 30 10:06:43 2012 From: t-openbsc at tobias.org (Tobias Engel) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 12:06:43 +0200 Subject: Regular Osmocom meeting in Berlin? In-Reply-To: <20120329194120.30742.qmail@stuge.se> References: <20120329152016.GN19456@prithivi.gnumonks.org> <20120329194120.30742.qmail@stuge.se> Message-ID: <4F7585B3.5090006@tobias.org> On 29.03.2012 21:41, Peter Stuge wrote: > Harald Welte wrote: >> I was pondering to start a regular Osmocom meeting (monthly or >> bi-weekly) in Berlin. > .. >> What do you generally think about this? > > I say go for it. Bi-weekly sounds good. I would say monthly is more realistic. But I'm also fine with bi-weekly. >> What day of the week should we be aiming at? > > I like Wednesday. Me too. -Tobias From gzsombor at gmail.com Fri Mar 30 11:37:11 2012 From: gzsombor at gmail.com (Zsombor) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 13:37:11 +0200 Subject: Regular Osmocom meeting in Berlin? In-Reply-To: References: <20120329152016.GN19456@prithivi.gnumonks.org> <20120329194120.30742.qmail@stuge.se> <4F7585B3.5090006@tobias.org> Message-ID: Can you record the video about the presentations and upload to some video sharing site ? I'm certain, that there would be some interest watching it :) Thanks, Zsombor On 2012.03.30. 13:33, "Tobias Engel" wrote: On 29.03.2012 21:41, Peter Stuge wrote: > Harald Welte wrote: >> I was pondering to start a regular ... I would say monthly is more realistic. But I'm also fine with bi-weekly. >> What day of the week should we be aiming at? > > I like Wednesday. Me too. -Tobias -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shadown at gmail.com Fri Mar 30 11:37:13 2012 From: shadown at gmail.com (Sergio 'shadown' Alvarez) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 13:37:13 +0200 Subject: Regular Osmocom meeting in Berlin? In-Reply-To: <4F7585B3.5090006@tobias.org> References: <20120329152016.GN19456@prithivi.gnumonks.org> <20120329194120.30742.qmail@stuge.se> <4F7585B3.5090006@tobias.org> Message-ID: The idea sounds great to me too. On Mar 30, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Tobias Engel wrote: > On 29.03.2012 21:41, Peter Stuge wrote: >> Harald Welte wrote: >>> I was pondering to start a regular Osmocom meeting (monthly or >>> bi-weekly) in Berlin. >> .. >>> What do you generally think about this? >> >> I say go for it. Bi-weekly sounds good. > > I would say monthly is more realistic. But I'm also fine with bi-weekly. Bi-weekly would give more chances to people who travel a lot, to at least make it to it once a month. >>> What day of the week should we be aiming at? >> >> I like Wednesday. > > Me too. > > -Tobias > From akibsayyed at gmail.com Fri Mar 30 17:27:29 2012 From: akibsayyed at gmail.com (Akib Sayyed) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 22:57:29 +0530 Subject: Regular Osmocom meeting in Berlin? In-Reply-To: References: <20120329152016.GN19456@prithivi.gnumonks.org> <20120329194120.30742.qmail@stuge.se> <4F7585B3.5090006@tobias.org> Message-ID: even i am in.people who cannot participate please make some arrangement for them like live streaming and chat support. On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Sergio 'shadown' Alvarez wrote: > The idea sounds great to me too. > > On Mar 30, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Tobias Engel wrote: > >> On 29.03.2012 21:41, Peter Stuge wrote: >>> Harald Welte wrote: >>>> I was pondering to start a regular Osmocom meeting (monthly or >>>> bi-weekly) in Berlin. >>> .. >>>> What do you generally think about this? >>> >>> I say go for it. Bi-weekly sounds good. >> >> I would say monthly is more realistic. But I'm also fine with bi-weekly. > > Bi-weekly would give more chances to people who travel a lot, to at least make it to it once a month. > >>>> What day of the week should we be aiming at? >>> >>> I like Wednesday. >> >> Me too. >> >> -Tobias >> > > -- Akib Sayyed Matrix-Shell akibsayyed at gmail.com akibsayyed at matrixshell.com Mob:- +91-966-514-2243 From holger at freyther.de Fri Mar 30 19:13:22 2012 From: holger at freyther.de (Holger Hans Peter Freyther) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 21:13:22 +0200 Subject: Regular Osmocom meeting in Berlin? In-Reply-To: References: <20120329152016.GN19456@prithivi.gnumonks.org> <20120329194120.30742.qmail@stuge.se> <4F7585B3.5090006@tobias.org> Message-ID: <4F7605D2.9040008@freyther.de> On 03/30/2012 07:27 PM, Akib Sayyed wrote: > even i am in.people who cannot participate please make some > arrangement for them like live streaming and chat support. > Hi, I don't think this is a good idea. It kills the local atmosphere without having any real benefit. Every decision/code and most likely slides will be public anyway. z. From alexander.chemeris at gmail.com Thu Mar 29 20:31:05 2012 From: alexander.chemeris at gmail.com (Alexander Chemeris) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 00:31:05 +0400 Subject: Regular Osmocom meeting in Berlin? In-Reply-To: <20120329152016.GN19456@prithivi.gnumonks.org> References: <20120329152016.GN19456@prithivi.gnumonks.org> Message-ID: Harald, Looks like a great idea to promote open-source in telecom and recruit more devs into the community. Not to mention all other goals. I wish you all the best in setting up this event and I wish I lived in Berlin. :) I have to schedule a new run of my seminars on GSM and OpenBTS in Moscow as well. Hopefully it will bring more attention from Russian audience as well. On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 19:20, Harald Welte wrote: > Hi all, > > I was pondering to start a regular Osmocom meeting (monthly or bi-weekly) > in Berlin. > > The idea would be not only to converge the existing developers in Berlin > (zecke, roh, prom, tobias, peter, kevin, myself, ...) but to also try to > share some knowledge and excitement with other interested hackers in the > wider community. > > A split format for the event might make sense: ?Have a more or less > organized 45min talk about one particular topic + 15min discussion and > then switch to an informal meeting style without any particular topic or > moderator. > > For the first half there is a long list of topics intended at informing > people about the status and capabilities of the respective projects: > OsmocomBB, OsmoTETRA, OsmoGMR, SIMtrace, etc. > > Regarding the venue, I would suggest to hold it at the Berlin CCC. > > What do you generally think about this? > > What day of the week should we be aiming at? ?Tuesday and Thursday is > generally not a good idea, as those are already occupied with other > events. > > If you think it's a good idea, I would request/register the event with > the CCC Berlin. > > Regards, > ? ? ? ?Harald > > -- > - Harald Welte ? ? ? ? ? http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ > ============================================================================ > "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?(ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) > -- Regards, Alexander Chemeris. CEO, Fairwaves LLC / ??? ??????? http://fairwaves.ru From osmocom at ngolde.de Fri Mar 30 07:42:36 2012 From: osmocom at ngolde.de (Nico Golde) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 09:42:36 +0200 Subject: Regular Osmocom meeting in Berlin? In-Reply-To: <20120329152016.GN19456@prithivi.gnumonks.org> References: <20120329152016.GN19456@prithivi.gnumonks.org> Message-ID: <20120330074236.GA4863@nybble.binarybase.org> Hi, * Harald Welte [2012-03-30 09:09]: > > I was pondering to start a regular Osmocom meeting (monthly or bi-weekly) > in Berlin. > > The idea would be not only to converge the existing developers in Berlin > (zecke, roh, prom, tobias, peter, kevin, myself, ...) but to also try to > share some knowledge and excitement with other interested hackers in the > wider community. That's a pretty nice idea! > A split format for the event might make sense: Have a more or less > organized 45min talk about one particular topic + 15min discussion and > then switch to an informal meeting style without any particular topic or > moderator. > > For the first half there is a long list of topics intended at informing > people about the status and capabilities of the respective projects: > OsmocomBB, OsmoTETRA, OsmoGMR, SIMtrace, etc. > > Regarding the venue, I would suggest to hold it at the Berlin CCC. Sounds good to me! > What do you generally think about this? > > What day of the week should we be aiming at? Tuesday and Thursday is > generally not a good idea, as those are already occupied with other > events. I would probably be in favor of Wednesday. Monthly sounds good to me. I'm not sure if bi-weekly is a bit too optimistic when it comes to people preparing exciting stuff talks. I may be totally wrong though. Cheers Nico From laforge at gnumonks.org Fri Mar 30 10:00:42 2012 From: laforge at gnumonks.org (Harald Welte) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 12:00:42 +0200 Subject: Regular Osmocom meeting in Berlin? In-Reply-To: <20120330074236.GA4863@nybble.binarybase.org> References: <20120329152016.GN19456@prithivi.gnumonks.org> <20120330074236.GA4863@nybble.binarybase.org> Message-ID: <20120330100042.GP27922@prithivi.gnumonks.org> Hi Nico, On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 09:42:36AM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: > I would probably be in favor of Wednesday Great, then we have already three people in favor of Wednesday (which would also work out fine for me). > Monthly sounds good to me. I'm not sure if bi-weekly is a bit too > optimistic when it comes to people preparing exciting stuff talks. I > may be totally wrong though. We could meet every 2 weeks but only have a talk once par month as a compromise. But then, even some basic intro to all of the Osmocom (sub)projects would keep us busy beyond the first year... After all, this is not supposed to be a free training program in mobile communications, but something interactive to get more people (more easily) involved... -- - Harald Welte http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ ============================================================================ "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) From katrin at mobileactive.org Fri Mar 30 19:17:17 2012 From: katrin at mobileactive.org (Katrin Verclas) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 19:17:17 +0000 Subject: Regular Osmocom meeting in Berlin? Message-ID: <113118383-1333135039-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1491659690-@b4.c4.bise6.blackberry> Could not disagree more. We live-stream local events all the time with a very unobtrusive webcam/ustream and it bothers no one who is there but benefits all who are not. Best, Katrin ------Original Message------ From: Holger Hans Peter Freyther Sender: baseband-devel-bounces at lists.osmocom.org To: Akib Sayyed Cc: baseband-devel at lists.osmocom.org Cc: openbsc at lists.osmocom.org Subject: Re: Regular Osmocom meeting in Berlin? Sent: Mar 30, 2012 3:13 PM On 03/30/2012 07:27 PM, Akib Sayyed wrote: > even i am in.people who cannot participate please make some > arrangement for them like live streaming and chat support. > Hi, I don't think this is a good idea. It kills the local atmosphere without having any real benefit. Every decision/code and most likely slides will be public anyway. z. Sent via mobile. Hence, short. From akibsayyed at gmail.com Sat Mar 31 02:39:04 2012 From: akibsayyed at gmail.com (Akib Sayyed) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 08:09:04 +0530 Subject: Regular Osmocom meeting in Berlin? In-Reply-To: <113118383-1333135039-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1491659690-@b4.c4.bise6.blackberry> References: <113118383-1333135039-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1491659690-@b4.c4.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: in my opinion holger is thinking that " it might become odd for people in conference to present as it is being streamed live.or also they wont be able to act freely" i think people are more interested to supporting main aim of meet.so even if there is no proper protocol of communication is very much ok(please correct me if i am wrong) On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Katrin Verclas wrote: > Could not disagree more. We live-stream local events all the time with a very unobtrusive webcam/ustream and it bothers no one who is there but benefits all who are not. > > Best, > > Katrin > > ------Original Message------ > From: Holger Hans Peter Freyther > Sender: baseband-devel-bounces at lists.osmocom.org > To: Akib Sayyed > Cc: baseband-devel at lists.osmocom.org > Cc: openbsc at lists.osmocom.org > Subject: Re: Regular Osmocom meeting in Berlin? > Sent: Mar 30, 2012 3:13 PM > > On 03/30/2012 07:27 PM, Akib Sayyed wrote: >> even i am in.people who cannot participate please make some >> arrangement for them like live streaming and chat support. >> > > Hi, > > I don't think this is a good idea. It kills the local atmosphere without > having any real benefit. Every decision/code and most likely slides will be > public anyway. > > z. > > > > Sent via mobile. Hence, short. -- Akib Sayyed Matrix-Shell akibsayyed at gmail.com akibsayyed at matrixshell.com Mob:- +91-966-514-2243 From laforge at gnumonks.org Sat Mar 31 12:01:40 2012 From: laforge at gnumonks.org (Harald Welte) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 14:01:40 +0200 Subject: Recording / Re: Regular Osmocom meeting in Berlin? In-Reply-To: <113118383-1333135039-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1491659690-@b4.c4.bise6.blackberry> References: <113118383-1333135039-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1491659690-@b4.c4.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: <20120331120140.GA27922@prithivi.gnumonks.org> Hi Katrin, On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 07:17:17PM +0000, Katrin Verclas wrote: > Could not disagree more. We live-stream local events all the time with > a very unobtrusive webcam/ustream and it bothers no one who is there > but benefits all who are not. And I couldn't disagree more with you. The mere existance of the two words 'camera' and 'unobtrusive' in one sentence are a contradiction in terms. If I want to meet with a small group of people and informally discuss technical topic, than that is _very_ different from being live streamed to an unknonwn number of people, any of which could make recordings and I would have to very carefully think about each and every word that I'm saying. That's not a particularly relaxed environment and would kill all the fun there is in having the meeting in the first place. Legally, In Germany this corresponds to "not publicly spoken word" (nicht oeffentlich gesprochenes Wort). It is punishable under law to record or broadcast that. (Clause 201 of German criminal code). Regards, Harald -- - Harald Welte http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ ============================================================================ "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) From katrin at mobileactive.org Sat Mar 31 13:37:42 2012 From: katrin at mobileactive.org (Katrin Verclas) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 13:37:42 +0000 Subject: Recording / Re: Regular Osmocom meeting in Berlin? Message-ID: <1893188027-1333201059-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1141642911-@b4.c4.bise6.blackberry> It was my understanding from your suggestion that there would be presentations and discussions after those presentations at the meetings, making this not just having a beer with friends but more formal affairs. That would be useful for people elsewhere to see, given that this is a global community. Not sure what German law has to do with putting online or streaming such presentations. Cameras off when it comes to the informal part and beer time.. Love this list otherwise. And will come to Berlin this summer so may attend one or two, regardless :) Cheers from New York. K ------Original Message------ From: Harald Welte To: Katrin Verclas Cc: Holger Hans Peter Freyther Cc: Akib Sayyed Cc: baseband-devel at lists.osmocom.org Cc: openbsc at lists.osmocom.org Subject: Recording / Re: Regular Osmocom meeting in Berlin? Sent: Mar 31, 2012 8:01 AM Hi Katrin, On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 07:17:17PM +0000, Katrin Verclas wrote: > Could not disagree more. We live-stream local events all the time with > a very unobtrusive webcam/ustream and it bothers no one who is there > but benefits all who are not. And I couldn't disagree more with you. The mere existance of the two words 'camera' and 'unobtrusive' in one sentence are a contradiction in terms. If I want to meet with a small group of people and informally discuss technical topic, than that is _very_ different from being live streamed to an unknonwn number of people, any of which could make recordings and I would have to very carefully think about each and every word that I'm saying. That's not a particularly relaxed environment and would kill all the fun there is in having the meeting in the first place. Legally, In Germany this corresponds to "not publicly spoken word" (nicht oeffentlich gesprochenes Wort). It is punishable under law to record or broadcast that. (Clause 201 of German criminal code). Regards, Harald -- - Harald Welte http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ ============================================================================ "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) Sent via mobile. Hence, short. From martin at windycitysdr.com Sat Mar 31 23:08:08 2012 From: martin at windycitysdr.com (Martin O'Shield) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 18:08:08 -0500 Subject: Recording / Re: Regular Osmocom meeting in Berlin? In-Reply-To: <1893188027-1333201059-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1141642911-@b4.c4.bise6.blackberry> References: <1893188027-1333201059-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1141642911-@b4.c4.bise6.blackberry> Message-ID: Katrin, My reply below: On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 8:37 AM, Katrin Verclas wrote: > It was my understanding from your suggestion that there would be > presentations and discussions after those presentations at the meetings, > making this not just having a beer with friends but more formal affairs. > > That would be useful for people elsewhere to see, given that this is a > global community. Not sure what German law has to do with putting online > or streaming such presentations. Cameras off when it comes to the informal > part and beer time.. > > I agree with Katrin! > Love this list otherwise. And will come to Berlin this summer so may > attend one or two, regardless :) > Me Too! :-) > > Cheers from New York. > Cheers from Chicago! > > > K > > > Sincerely, Martin > > ------Original Message------ > From: Harald Welte > To: Katrin Verclas > Cc: Holger Hans Peter Freyther > Cc: Akib Sayyed > Cc: baseband-devel at lists.osmocom.org > Cc: openbsc at lists.osmocom.org > Subject: Recording / Re: Regular Osmocom meeting in Berlin? > Sent: Mar 31, 2012 8:01 AM > > Hi Katrin, > > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 07:17:17PM +0000, Katrin Verclas wrote: > > Could not disagree more. We live-stream local events all the time with > > a very unobtrusive webcam/ustream and it bothers no one who is there > > but benefits all who are not. > > And I couldn't disagree more with you. The mere existance of the two > words 'camera' and 'unobtrusive' in one sentence are a contradiction in > terms. > > If I want to meet with a small group of people and informally discuss > technical topic, than that is _very_ different from being live streamed > to an unknonwn number of people, any of which could make recordings and > I would have to very carefully think about each and every word that I'm > saying. That's not a particularly relaxed environment and would kill > all the fun there is in having the meeting in the first place. > > Legally, In Germany this corresponds to "not publicly spoken word" > (nicht oeffentlich gesprochenes Wort). It is punishable under law to > record or broadcast that. (Clause 201 of German criminal code). > > Regards, > Harald > -- > - Harald Welte > http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ > > ============================================================================ > "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." > (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) > > Sent via mobile. Hence, short. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ml at mail.tsaitgaist.info Sat Mar 31 00:18:31 2012 From: ml at mail.tsaitgaist.info (Kevin Redon) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 02:18:31 +0200 Subject: Regular Osmocom meeting in Berlin? In-Reply-To: <20120329152016.GN19456@prithivi.gnumonks.org> References: <20120329152016.GN19456@prithivi.gnumonks.org> Message-ID: <1333152922-sup-3490@dennou> Hi, Excerpts from Harald Welte's message of Thu Mar 29 17:20:16 +0200 2012: > > I was pondering to start a regular Osmocom meeting (monthly or bi-weekly) > in Berlin. monthly soung good. bi-weekly could also be a good way to invite/welcome new-comers and introduce them to osmocom (which has 1000 subproject), for individual presentation, workshop, tutorial, ... something informal, so to help in the beginnings. > > The idea would be not only to converge the existing developers in Berlin > (zecke, roh, prom, tobias, peter, kevin, myself, ...) but to also try to > share some knowledge and excitement with other interested hackers in the > wider community. I will be there. > > Regarding the venue, I would suggest to hold it at the Berlin CCC. good place > What day of the week should we be aiming at? Tuesday and Thursday is > generally not a good idea, as those are already occupied with other > events. wednesday is good for me. kevin From gouchengcheng at gmail.com Fri Mar 30 02:36:46 2012 From: gouchengcheng at gmail.com (Chengcheng Gou) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 10:36:46 +0800 Subject: DOS in Cellular network Message-ID: Hello I want to know how to implement a real DOS in the real cellular network using RACH Flood.As you know, using OsmocomBB ,you can only send flood to one ARFCN at one time, so the phone can seaching for another ARFCN. So I think the RACH Flood is less effective in practice, how about it? and if not,a better suggestion on DOS in Cellular network? Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kheimerl at cs.berkeley.edu Fri Mar 30 03:21:52 2012 From: kheimerl at cs.berkeley.edu (Kurtis Heimerl) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 20:21:52 -0700 Subject: DOS in Cellular network In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Why not just jam the uplink? There's no particular reason to actually send any RACHs or the like. On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 7:36 PM, Chengcheng Gou wrote: > Hello > > I want to know how to implement a real DOS in the real? cellular network > using RACH Flood.As you know, using OsmocomBB ,you can only send flood to > one ARFCN at one time, so the phone can seaching for another ARFCN. So I > think the RACH Flood is less effective in practice, how about it? and if > not,a better suggestion on DOS in Cellular network? > > Thanks! From Max.Suraev at fairwaves.ru Fri Mar 30 05:18:14 2012 From: Max.Suraev at fairwaves.ru (Max.Suraev at fairwaves.ru) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 13:18:14 +0800 Subject: DOS in Cellular network In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F754216.7070301@fairwaves.ru> 30.03.2012 11:21, Kurtis Heimerl ???????: > Why not just jam the uplink? There's no particular reason to actually > send any RACHs or the like. It's simply orders of magnitude more effective: the amount of energy required to jam entire cell is way bigger than the amount required for RACH transmission. This also makes it much harder to locate the attacker. To put it other way - it's just "greener" kind of DoS :) Getting back to original question - one solution would be to use several phones to run few osmocom stacks in parallel, each targeting its own ARFCN. Those phones are dirt cheap anyway :) -- best regards, Max, http://fairwaves.ru From laforge at gnumonks.org Fri Mar 30 06:55:49 2012 From: laforge at gnumonks.org (Harald Welte) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 08:55:49 +0200 Subject: DOS in Cellular network In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120330065549.GK27922@prithivi.gnumonks.org> Hi Chengcheng, On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 10:36:46AM +0800, Chengcheng Gou wrote: > I want to know how to implement a real DOS in the real cellular network > using RACH Flood. While we do research on cellular security on this list, I don't think we endorse, encourage or otherwise help anyone to participate in hostile and/or illegal activities. You clearly talk about a a "DoS in the real cellular network", which clearly sounds like you have some malicious motives and are not into this for research. Maybe you can explain more about yourself, why you are interested in this and what the exact application is. Regards, Harald -- - Harald Welte http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ ============================================================================ "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) From sebastien at lorquet.fr Fri Mar 30 07:13:50 2012 From: sebastien at lorquet.fr (Sebastien Lorquet) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 09:13:50 +0200 Subject: DOS in Cellular network In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4F755D2E.6020208@lorquet.fr> my turn: Hello, I want to bring down the entire internet. I think I can do that in practice on my LAN by DOSing the DNS server, but on the internet there are others. So I think a DDOS on all root servers should be more efficient, how about it? Do you have a better suggestion? ;-) Have a nice week end! Regards, Sebastien Le 30/03/2012 04:36, Chengcheng Gou a ?crit : > Hello > > I want to know how to implement a real DOS in the real cellular network using > RACH Flood.As you know, using OsmocomBB ,you can only send flood to one ARFCN > at one time, so the phone can seaching for another ARFCN. So I think the RACH > Flood is less effective in practice, how about it? and if not,a better > suggestion on DOS in Cellular network? > > Thanks! From ondra2000 at centrum.cz Fri Mar 30 12:43:49 2012 From: ondra2000 at centrum.cz (ondra2000 at centrum.cz) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 14:43:49 +0200 Subject: Older releases OsmocomBB Message-ID: <20120330144349.3D41A6FD@centrum.cz> Hi all, please how can I download some older release of osmocombb source?I have compiled osmocombb source about 3 months ago and everything was ok...now I downloaded using git some new version and compile it and my phone repeatedly register/unregister with network. Sometimes if can call to this phone but I can't send SMS....So I want compile some older version of source code which worked for me. Thanks BR Ondrej From peter at stuge.se Sat Mar 31 04:45:09 2012 From: peter at stuge.se (Peter Stuge) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 06:45:09 +0200 Subject: Older releases OsmocomBB In-Reply-To: <20120330144349.3D41A6FD@centrum.cz> References: <20120330144349.3D41A6FD@centrum.cz> Message-ID: <20120331044509.24977.qmail@stuge.se> ondra2000 at centrum.cz wrote: > please how can I download some older release of osmocombb source? Recommend study http://progit.org/book/ //Peter From laforge at gnumonks.org Sat Mar 31 11:33:37 2012 From: laforge at gnumonks.org (Harald Welte) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 13:33:37 +0200 Subject: Older releases OsmocomBB In-Reply-To: <20120330144349.3D41A6FD@centrum.cz> References: <20120330144349.3D41A6FD@centrum.cz> Message-ID: <20120331113337.GW27922@prithivi.gnumonks.org> Hi, On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 02:43:49PM +0200, ondra2000 at centrum.cz wrote: > So I want compile some older version of source code which worked for > me. Thanks just use git and check out an older version of it. The beauty of revision control systems is exactly that you can go back to any previous point in time. -- - Harald Welte http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ ============================================================================ "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) From martin at windycitysdr.com Fri Mar 30 17:59:53 2012 From: martin at windycitysdr.com (Martin O'Shield) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 12:59:53 -0500 Subject: Please Stream it LIVE ---> Re: Regular Osmocom meeting in Berlin? Message-ID: Hello All, "People who cannot participate please make some arrangement for them like live streaming and chat support. " I'd like to vote for this point as I wont be able to attend either but love to be there. Sincerely, Martin On Friday, March 30, 2012, Akib Sayyed wrote: > even i am in.people who cannot participate please make some > arrangement for them like live streaming and chat support. > > > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Sergio 'shadown' Alvarez > wrote: >> The idea sounds great to me too. >> >> On Mar 30, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Tobias Engel wrote: >> >>> On 29.03.2012 21:41, Peter Stuge wrote: >>>> Harald Welte wrote: >>>>> I was pondering to start a regular Osmocom meeting (monthly or >>>>> bi-weekly) in Berlin. >>>> .. >>>>> What do you generally think about this? >>>> >>>> I say go for it. Bi-weekly sounds good. >>> >>> I would say monthly is more realistic. But I'm also fine with bi-weekly. >> >> Bi-weekly would give more chances to people who travel a lot, to at least make it to it once a month. >> >>>>> What day of the week should we be aiming at? >>>> >>>> I like Wednesday. >>> >>> Me too. >>> >>> -Tobias >>> >> >> > > > > -- > Akib Sayyed > Matrix-Shell > akibsayyed at gmail.com > akibsayyed at matrixshell.com > Mob:- +91-966-514-2243 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andreas at eversberg.eu Fri Mar 30 19:22:45 2012 From: andreas at eversberg.eu (Andreas Eversberg) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 21:22:45 +0200 Subject: battery and rx-level symbols Message-ID: <4F760805.8010706@eversberg.eu> hi christian, just added a symbol font to display battery level and rx level to layer1. also i added these symbols to rssi. regards, andreas From jolly at eversberg.eu Fri Mar 30 19:15:45 2012 From: jolly at eversberg.eu (Andreas Eversberg) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 21:15:45 +0200 Subject: [PATCH 1/2] layer1/fb: Adding new font for symbols Message-ID: The first symbols added are special characters to display battery status and receive level. --- src/target/firmware/Makefile | 3 +- src/target/firmware/fb/font.c | 2 + src/target/firmware/fb/symbols.c | 102 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ src/target/firmware/include/fb/font.h | 1 + 4 files changed, 107 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) create mode 100644 src/target/firmware/fb/symbols.c diff --git a/src/target/firmware/Makefile b/src/target/firmware/Makefile index 21892a4..a71eef6 100644 --- a/src/target/firmware/Makefile +++ b/src/target/firmware/Makefile @@ -9,7 +9,8 @@ APPLICATIONS?=hello_world compal_dsp_dump layer1 loader chainload rssi # Framebuffer support, board specific drivers # -FB_OBJS=fb/framebuffer.o fb/font.o fb/helvR08.o fb/helvB14.o fb/c64.o +FB_OBJS=fb/framebuffer.o fb/font.o fb/helvR08.o fb/helvB14.o fb/c64.o \ + fb/symbols.o FB_e88_OBJS=$(FB_OBJS) fb/fb_bw8.o fb/fb_st7558.o FB_e99_OBJS=$(FB_OBJS) fb/fb_rgb332.o fb/fb_ssd1783.o diff --git a/src/target/firmware/fb/font.c b/src/target/firmware/fb/font.c index d98096f..18c1bfe 100644 --- a/src/target/firmware/fb/font.c +++ b/src/target/firmware/fb/font.c @@ -32,6 +32,7 @@ extern const struct fb_font font_helvR14; extern const struct fb_font font_helvB14; // extern const struct fb_font font_helvB24; extern const struct fb_font font_c64; +extern const struct fb_font font_symbols; const struct fb_font *fb_fonts[]={ // &font_4x6, @@ -43,6 +44,7 @@ const struct fb_font *fb_fonts[]={ &font_helvB14, // &font_helvB24, &font_c64, + &font_symbols, }; const struct fb_char * diff --git a/src/target/firmware/fb/symbols.c b/src/target/firmware/fb/symbols.c new file mode 100644 index 0000000..5f6c364 --- /dev/null +++ b/src/target/firmware/fb/symbols.c @@ -0,0 +1,102 @@ +#include +static const uint8_t font_symbols_data[] = { +/* @ battery - */ + /*0000:*/ 3, 3, 8, 0, 0, /* width and bbox (w,h,x,y) */ + /*0005:*/ 0x60, /* .##..... */ + /*0006:*/ 0x40, /* .#...... */ + /*0007:*/ 0x40, /* .#...... */ + /*0008:*/ 0x40, /* .#...... */ + /*0009:*/ 0x40, /* .#...... */ + /*000a:*/ 0x40, /* .#...... */ + /*000b:*/ 0x40, /* .#...... */ + /*000c:*/ 0x60, /* .##..... */ +/* A battery empty */ + /*000d:*/ 3, 3, 8, 0, 0, /* width and bbox (w,h,x,y) */ + /*0012:*/ 0xe0, /* ###..... */ + /*0013:*/ 0x00, /* ........ */ + /*0014:*/ 0x00, /* ........ */ + /*0015:*/ 0x00, /* ........ */ + /*0016:*/ 0x00, /* ........ */ + /*0017:*/ 0x00, /* ........ */ + /*0018:*/ 0x00, /* ........ */ + /*0019:*/ 0xe0, /* ###..... */ +/* B battery full */ + /*001a:*/ 3, 3, 8, 0, 0, /* width and bbox (w,h,x,y) */ + /*001f:*/ 0xe0, /* ###..... */ + /*0020:*/ 0x00, /* ........ */ + /*0021:*/ 0xc0, /* ##...... */ + /*0022:*/ 0xc0, /* ##...... */ + /*0023:*/ 0xc0, /* ##...... */ + /*0024:*/ 0xc0, /* ##...... */ + /*0025:*/ 0x00, /* ........ */ + /*0026:*/ 0xe0, /* ###..... */ +/* C battery + */ + /*0027:*/ 3, 3, 8, 0, 0, /* width and bbox (w,h,x,y) */ + /*002c:*/ 0x80, /* #....... */ + /*002d:*/ 0x80, /* #....... */ + /*002e:*/ 0xc0, /* ##...... */ + /*002f:*/ 0xc0, /* ##...... */ + /*0030:*/ 0xc0, /* ##...... */ + /*0031:*/ 0xc0, /* ##...... */ + /*0032:*/ 0x80, /* #....... */ + /*0033:*/ 0x80, /* #....... */ +/* D radiation left */ + /*0034:*/ 3, 3, 8, 0, 0, /* width and bbox (w,h,x,y) */ + /*0039:*/ 0x20, /* ..#..... */ + /*003a:*/ 0x40, /* .#...... */ + /*003b:*/ 0x20, /* ..#..... */ + /*003c:*/ 0x00, /* ........ */ + /*003d:*/ 0x00, /* ........ */ + /*003e:*/ 0x00, /* ........ */ + /*003f:*/ 0x00, /* ........ */ + /*0040:*/ 0x00, /* ........ */ +/* E tower */ + /*0041:*/ 5, 5, 8, 0, 0, /* width and bbox (w,h,x,y) */ + /*0046:*/ 0x20, /* ..#..... */ + /*0047:*/ 0x50, /* .#.#.... */ + /*0048:*/ 0x20, /* ..#..... */ + /*0049:*/ 0x20, /* ..#..... */ + /*004a:*/ 0x50, /* .#.#.... */ + /*004b:*/ 0x50, /* .#.#.... */ + /*004c:*/ 0x88, /* #...#... */ + /*004d:*/ 0xf8, /* #####... */ +/* F radiation right */ + /*004e:*/ 3, 3, 8, 0, 0, /* width and bbox (w,h,x,y) */ + /*0053:*/ 0x80, /* #....... */ + /*0054:*/ 0x40, /* .#...... */ + /*0055:*/ 0x80, /* #....... */ + /*0056:*/ 0x00, /* ........ */ + /*0057:*/ 0x00, /* ........ */ + /*0058:*/ 0x00, /* ........ */ + /*0059:*/ 0x00, /* ........ */ + /*005a:*/ 0x00, /* ........ */ +/* G no radiation */ + /*005b:*/ 3, 3, 8, 0, 0, /* width and bbox (w,h,x,y) */ + /*005c:*/ 0x00, /* ........ */ + /*005d:*/ 0x00, /* ........ */ + /*005e:*/ 0x00, /* ........ */ + /*005f:*/ 0x00, /* ........ */ + /*0060:*/ 0x00, /* ........ */ + /*0061:*/ 0x00, /* ........ */ + /*0062:*/ 0x00, /* ........ */ + /*0063:*/ 0x00, /* ........ */ +}; +static const uint16_t font_symbols_offsets[] = { + 0x0000 /* '@' */, + 0x000d /* 'A' */, + 0x001a /* 'B' */, + 0x0027 /* 'C' */, + 0x0034 /* 'D' */, + 0x0041 /* 'E' */, + 0x004e /* 'F' */, + 0x005b /* 'G' */, +}; +const struct fb_font font_symbols = { + .height = 8, + .ascent = 8, + .firstchar = 64, /* '@' */ + .lastchar = 71, + .chardata = font_symbols_data, + .charoffs = font_symbols_offsets, +}; + diff --git a/src/target/firmware/include/fb/font.h b/src/target/firmware/include/fb/font.h index 40a6974..9dee8ff 100644 --- a/src/target/firmware/include/fb/font.h +++ b/src/target/firmware/include/fb/font.h @@ -70,6 +70,7 @@ enum fb_font_id { FB_FONT_HELVB14, // FB_FONT_HELVB24, FB_FONT_C64, + FB_FONT_SYMBOLS, }; extern const struct fb_font *fb_fonts[]; // note: has to match fb_font_id enum! -- 1.7.3.4 --------------020300040706040007050809 Content-Type: text/x-patch; name="0002-layer1-rssi-Adding-battery-status-and-rx-level-symbo.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename*0="0002-layer1-rssi-Adding-battery-status-and-rx-level-symbo.pa"; filename*1="tch" From jolly at eversberg.eu Fri Mar 30 19:17:57 2012 From: jolly at eversberg.eu (Andreas Eversberg) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 21:17:57 +0200 Subject: [PATCH 2/2] layer1/rssi: Adding battery status and rx-level symbol to RSSI. Message-ID: --- src/target/firmware/apps/rssi/main.c | 17 +++++++++++++++-- 1 files changed, 15 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/src/target/firmware/apps/rssi/main.c b/src/target/firmware/apps/rssi/main.c index a189740..43713db 100644 --- a/src/target/firmware/apps/rssi/main.c +++ b/src/target/firmware/apps/rssi/main.c @@ -50,6 +50,7 @@ #include #include #include +#include enum key_codes key_code = KEY_INV; int key_pressed = 0; @@ -170,6 +171,7 @@ static void print_display(char *text, int *y, int c) static void refresh_display(void) { char text[16]; + int bat = battery_info.battery_percent; fb_clear(); @@ -179,9 +181,20 @@ static void refresh_display(void) fb_setfg(FB_COLOR_BLUE); fb_setfont(FB_FONT_HELVR08); fb_gotoxy(0, 7); - fb_putstr("Osmocom Monitor Tool", -1); - fb_gotoxy(0, 10); + fb_putstr("Osmocom RSSI", -1); + fb_setfg(FB_COLOR_RGB(0xc0, 0xc0, 0x00)); + fb_setfont(FB_FONT_SYMBOLS); + fb_gotoxy(framebuffer->width - 15, 8); + sprintf(text, "@%c%c%cC", (bat >= 30) ? 'B':'A', + (bat >= 60) ? 'B':'A', (bat >= 90) ? 'B':'A'); + fb_putstr(text, framebuffer->width); + fb_gotoxy(0, 8); + sprintf(text, "%c%cE%c%c", (power >= 40) ? 'D':'G', + (power >= 10) ? 'D':'G', (power >= 10) ? 'F':'G', + (power >= 40) ? 'F':'G'); + fb_putstr(text, framebuffer->width); fb_setfg(FB_COLOR_GREEN); + fb_gotoxy(0, 10); fb_boxto(framebuffer->width - 1, 10); } fb_setfg(FB_COLOR_BLACK); -- 1.7.3.4 --------------020300040706040007050809-- From gouchengcheng at gmail.com Sat Mar 31 03:13:14 2012 From: gouchengcheng at gmail.com (Chengcheng Gou) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 11:13:14 +0800 Subject: how to debug the firmware apps Message-ID: Hello I want to write an app in the form of Firmware, and don`t know how to debug it effectively! anyone has good suggestions, please? Thanks! From laforge at gnumonks.org Sat Mar 31 12:09:30 2012 From: laforge at gnumonks.org (Harald Welte) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 14:09:30 +0200 Subject: how to debug the firmware apps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120331120930.GC27922@prithivi.gnumonks.org> Hi, On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 11:13:14AM +0800, Chengcheng Gou wrote: > I want to write an app in the form of Firmware, and don`t know how to > debug it effectively! just like with any 'bare iron' code: Thinking about the problem and adding debug printf's to your code (sometimes called "instrumentation"). -- - Harald Welte http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ ============================================================================ "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 190 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: